I'd like to hear opinions as well as I have not yet bought the update.
Thread: Perfume the Guide - new update
But it´s not free
I only read the ratings and not the reviews but I´m surprised and happy to see that Be Never is getting good ratings, i just wished I could read the reviews to see whether anything is said about their ´all natural appearance´ because I bet it is not an all natural perfume ( not for that price anyway..right?)
Anybody here who bought the update, is it a must have..or a bit meh?
But once you get locked into a serious perfume collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can.
I'd like to hear opinions as well as I have not yet bought the update.
the US version is $9.99 and includes 129 new fragrances
Russian translation next week and German the week after that.
I'm still in the A's and am intrigued enough to try Acqua di Parma's Profumo which I remember someone here wearing and admiring greatly. 4 stars from TS
I update my reviews for free
I'll gives this to me for my St. Nicholas Day (Dec. 6) stocking .
Most interesting for me:
4 stars for the Tauer incenses, only 2 vor Vetiver Dance and Ormonde's Zizan (5 for Chanel Sycomore - "smoky vetiver")
only 1 star for Love in Black (I hated it, too)
Thumbs down on Prada's masculine Iris ("cheap") and up for Iris Pallida (blueberry pepper).
Byredo gets straight 3s, lots of 4 stars for Donna Karan & Parfumerie Generale.
Last edited by the_good_life; 3rd December 2008 at 03:11 PM.
Just got it... noticed that they finally got around to reviewing my beloved Cuir Venenum and gave it 4 stars! Too bad on the 2 stars for Infusion d'Homme, though.
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The first installment was free - from now on they will be $9.99
Here is the link
Here's the text of the release:
The Winter 2008 newsletter is now online and ready for download! Despite assurances from several readers that the proper cost was roughly the price of a perfume, LT & TS have settled on what they hope is the entirely reasonable amount of $9.99 for 129 new reviews, including two five-star fragrances and the latest from the Beckhams, Kylie Minogue, and Kate Moss, who are busy proving wrong the authors' assertion that celebrity fragrances are usually as good as average. The newsletter also includes the authors' top ten favorite new releases of the hundreds tested this year.
The vendor handling the payment and file download is Kagi, which allows you to pay with credit card or PayPal.
Russian translation to come next week, and German translation the week following.
Those who would rather wait for the next book edition, the paperback, with around 300 new reviews selected from the newsletters, will be published in the US in Fall 2009. Be aware also that the current hardcover may be the last edition in that format; future book editions will most likely be paperback.
Thank you for all who have written to express your enthusiasm for the guide.
Waiting for someone here to post or PM
Sorry, 129 short reviews from a couple of snobs who like to call themselves experts aren't worth $5, let alone $10
They've got my $10 - there's a lot more then just reviews in the guide and updates, and even when I don't agree I've obtained countless ideas about different things to try, which leads to other things, etc. They're certainly more experts than I am, and know more about the industry.
Maybe they'll try Parfumerie Generale one of these updates.
Luca Turin is an expert, by any reasonable definition. And reviewing is about drawing distinctions between what one values and what one doesn't value. That's not snobbery.
All of which is not to say that Turin's expertise makes him right about the qualities of particular fragrances or that you need to value what he has to say about perfumes...let alone whether the $10 price tag for the update is reasonable.
But even if this update seems like a waste of money to you, there's no need to insult Luca Turin or to essentially dismiss the very idea of reviewing perfume!
Last edited by s0me0nesmind1; 3rd December 2008 at 04:07 PM.
Of course the reviews are opinions - all reviews of books, movies, art, etc. are opinions. What is 'expertise' in any art? Expertise in perfumery is what it is in any field - experience. I'll trust someone who's been writing about the fragrance industry for years over someone who hasn't. They are not 'random' opinions, but that of established critics. Anonymous reviews on BN are 'random' opinions.
If there wasn't something in the Guide reviews that rang true to many people, no one would have bought the Guide and the updates wouldn't have been commercially viable. This further demonstrates that the reviews are not 'random' opinions by people with no expertise. If you or I released such a book, it would not be successful because neither you or I have industry experience, experienced opinions, or the writing skills necessary to draft such a work.
Plus, there are lots of ideas to be derived from the reviews and other info contained that give value beyond just the ratings. I've found a number of fragrances I love based on info in the guides, including fragrances that don't have the highest ratings. To not want to buy the guide is one thing, to discount the value of such a product and have a chip on your shoulder against it is either bizarre or naive.
I'm disappointed on the new price tag, but I'll pay it. In the long run it may save me some cash, but more likely it will get me to spend more.
There are certain critics I trust for food, theater, film and now, fragrance information.
Last edited by Kevin Guyer; 3rd December 2008 at 09:16 PM.
Perused the book at Borders but never bought it. The reviews in this new Guide just don't interest me the way they used to. Some are too snippety and snarky by half, some are half hearted and the few that are detailed and interesting are fewer and farther between than his earlier work. Won't be buying this either.
And I get a better idea of what I like by reading Basenotes reviews of people with similar tastes.
Have they still not reviewed the Comme des Garcons line? I don't have the book with me, but if I remember correctly, it wasn't reviewed there, and it isn't in either of the newsletters.
It seems like an awfully big oversight. I know it isn't a mainstream line, but neither are lines like Etat Libre d'Orange or Be Never to Busy to Be Beautiful (at least they aren't where I live), and they are being reviewed, and CdG seems really popular among perfumistas. I'm just curious to know what they think.
If, like me, you read LT/TS reviews as much for the entertainment value as for the analytical reference, then it's probably worth the measly ten bucks. We've all paid more for less.
Sycomore got 5 stars.
Nice reviews. I am glad I paid the $$.
He reviewed the PG Yuzu and the Perfumes d'Empire Yuzu, both got 4 stars.
I'm glad they finally came around reviewing Noir de Noir. It was the only TF Private Blend they missed out on in the book. It's one of my favorites and happy to see they gave it a 4 star rating. Rose Chocolate, yummy!
Last edited by nsamadi; 3rd December 2008 at 07:50 PM.
I pay to read stuff all the time.
I guess it's clear this thread is to let people know who'd be interested. Clearly the Turin/Sanchez works aren't for everyone.
That girl, that bottle, that mattress and me.
The only thing I would say , is that if you dont want to read it , then dont buy it , not difficult really
hey dustb, is there any way that i can START a thread which requires a $10 payment to read? i'll make it good i promise!
pay-for-reviews is kind of a controversial idea...but i can see how people would pay to read the PDF...however, cool people (i'm looking at bbBD) would cut and paste it for their friends for free
doesn't the original book cost like $20 or something? $10 sounds a bit steep! but oh well....for the rich amongst the crowd
Last edited by everso; 3rd December 2008 at 08:08 PM.
This is interesting, I may go check this out...
I am OVER THE MOON today because I told our press guys to send in the B Never perfumes to The Guide, they did - and resulting reviews are fun, entertaining and generally favourable. Breath of God gets 5 stars (only 2 out of 129 reviewed frags got 5) and the Superworldunknown perfume review is hilariously slating about the packaging, but completely on the money about how the B perfumery works: the money goes into the juice.
(P.S. Lian, the B perfumes as well as all the product scents are created predominantly with natural materials that are sourced by Simon and his team. They do use basic synthetic materials, but don't overdose on them. Because everything is done in-house, they don't have to work to an impossible brief & budget. These kinds of perfumes have more in common with classic Guerlain than with new mainstream).