... because it doesn't reveal the scent truly for what it is!
I've been stingy with some samples and was always wanting to save it for the future. (and for reference) For instance, I had a vial of Guerlain's Bois d'Armenie that I initially took my time emptying. One day, I took it for a generous full wearing, pouring and applying about half the 1.5ml vial. (which should equate to about 3~6 sprays?) Well, what can I say? It's different, and the more balsamic properties shine through -- creating an "aura" (okay, sillage) that is absent when sampling lightly.
These days, when sampling, I liberally apply to see what it's all about -- even if it means not having much left for future use and reference. (which is why you can see many eventually moving towards larger decants in the 5ml~8ml range)
What do you guys and gals think? Agree/disagree?
Last edited by moltening; 8th December 2008 at 02:31 PM.
I like to learn a little about the frag before sampling, if that's possible. Then I have a better idea about how to apply it. Some frags I do only use a small dab, such as Comme des Garcons Perfume, while others I need to use quite a bit more, like Victory League. If you only apply one way and in a specific amount every time, you might think you dislike a frag when it's really just about the application. That's certainly the case for me.
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Last edited by surreality; 7th December 2008 at 09:09 PM.
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I TOTALLY agree. It's often but not always impossible to comment on sillage and longevity from a little dabbing stick. Now, for instance, when a perfume has a dabbing stopper (like the Serge Lutens bell jars for instance) I think that's a different story but still, I have sprayed and experienced fragrances from the bottle that I had only previously dabbed and it's like reading the whole book instead of the Cliff's notes. There is something to be said for diffusion. It's really a necessary aspect to the way many fragrances are experienced. A given amount upturned from a sample vial, in my experience, is not felt, or experienced the same as when that given amount is sprayed. I hate paying more for a spray sample but I'll do it from now on. I've learned too many times that I am not getting the full picture from a dabber vial.
Last edited by nthny; 7th December 2008 at 10:09 PM.
Math equations aside, just sample the amount you would usually use if you owned the bottle and try to be realistic. I would probably use 0.1 to 0.25 of a mL for a realistic sampling, 'cuz I only spray my fragrances once per wearing.
Last edited by L'Aventurier; 7th December 2008 at 10:02 PM. Reason: bad math!
I agree-- I found I was misjudging perfumes when I dabbed. So I bought a number of 2.5ml spray atomizers from Accessories for Fragrances (these are identical to what Sephora gives you when you ask for a sample) and now I put my samples in those and spray them on.
I disagree, a drop can tell you lots, give it a bit of time to develop. A perfume doesn't smell the same, it usually isn't a single chord, more a variable wash of frequencies with a particular envelope. Spraying tons gives your nose an overdose. You can't smell anything else.
I bought three dozen empty atomizers to test this theory and I suspect that I'll be buying more.
But I'll still be spending plenty of money at the Perfumed Court. Just, less of it will be on the 1.5 mil sprayers of reasonably commonly available perfumes.
Crayfish and 30 Roses, I've wanted to do this for a long time but didn't know where to find a good deal on spray atomizers. I'll try Accessories for Fragrances. Thanks! I'm inspired!
I got annoyed by this as well at one point, especially with a few samples from L'Artisian. I found that dabbing the stuff on my wrist didn't really give me much of anything, damn it! Well.. so I went to get my big Mugler Cologne atomizer to put an end to this tomfoolery! I opened the small vial, prepared the atomizer and started to pump like a mad man.. SHLUUUURP.. SHPOOFF.. and all the juice had vanished from sight, let alone got stuck in the atomizer .. At least I got a proper wearing of Ambre Extreme that day.
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Total agreement with the OP.
Applying lightly to a card is my 1st step.
Wait at absolute least 45seconds before smelling it.
This will givde you the top notes, and the prominent notes of the fragrance.
I always hang on to the card for a day or two, smelling as it develops and finally passes.
If I liked that, then I go back to apply very heavily to clothes, and sometimes skin.
Applying too lightly and you won't get the fullest sense of all the details of the final stages in the drydown.
Out of scents I like, the two where I think much is missed in a light application, are Vintage Tabarome and Green Irish Tweed. There is a certain baby-blue/pastel-green/tan creamy/woody perfection on the tail of G.I.T., I think it is where the Iris and Sandalwood are in perfect balance over the smooth aquatic gris, and just the lower register remnants of GIT's heart notes are left. It's really unrivalled IMHO.
There is also a very nice creamy cinnamon/clove to accompany the settled tobacco at the end of Vintage Tabarome, that only a generous application will allow you to fully smell, often the next day. On clothes, you won't smell the last stage for a week.
So I give a large endorsement to heavy application[s] when testing for bottle-worthiness.
Last edited by DULLAH; 8th December 2008 at 01:50 AM.
i Totally Agree. have to say i made some wrong decisions based on this. now, it;s a different story and like the OP, have discovered how different a dab is from spray(or generous application)
Agreed. It just seems more logical.
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