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    Agreed re: Halston Couture and Eau du Soir. Both fabulous.
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    Would you say Daim Blond qualifies as a chypre?

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    Hey you!

    When I first started this fragrance "thing" I thought I was going to be singularly chypre. (Silly me!) If I were forced to pick a favorite olfactory group, after much torment and debate, I'd probably pick chypre; (or have a complete nervous breakdown while trying to make a decision!)

    A few favorites (based on Osmoz categorization):

    Vivienne Westwood Boudoir, Ananas Fizz, Coco Mlle, Lady Vengeance, Chance, Sublime, Narciso (edp), Wrappings, EnJoy, Knowing, 24 Faubourg, Cabochard, Cabotine, Shiloh, Eau du Soir

    A very, very favorite that to my nose is a chypre, (I don't know how it's defined by Professional Perfume Categorizers) is Yves Rocher Comme Une Evidence, (esp. in its edt form: Un jour se leve. It's uplifting, radiant, and gorgeous. I must get some to you!
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    I love 31 Rue Cambon and Bandit. Very sophisticated, but still has that freshness that I love so much about chypres. I think I've found the limit of my chypre-love, though, and that's in Agent Provocateur. Woo wee!!! That one blows the top off my head and if I sniff too deeply, it gives me a slight headache. Still, I just got my 1.7 oz bottle.

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    I'm really enjoying this thread. Keep 'em coming! More rose chypre suggestions anyone?

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    WELCOME PERSIMON!!!!

    You have excellent taste in fragrance! You sure have found the right place to hang around. So glad you're here.

    Funny you say that about AP - because I have the same reaction. I love the stuff, but it's hell bent on strangling me. I keep believing that I'll find the right weather for it to be perfect, as I know I can't wear it well in warm weather. It's cool here right now...I think I'll go get my sample.

    *edit* - I just noticed that you're in SoCal. I foresee some sniffing in your immediate future...
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    La Perla by La Perla is a very respectable chypre, to my nose, and smells not dissimilar to AP -- only it's a lot cheaper!

    Oddly, Magie Noire smells very chypre on me, though I understand that it's classified (not unreasonably) as an oriental.
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    I have to say that Moss Breches is the most individual thing I have smelled of those. The classic Coty Chypre is of course the reference, but most people have never smelled this (I wonder who has) so there is not a lot to read about it apart from its status.

    But honourable mentions go to:

    Aromatics Elixir
    Paloma Picasso Mon Parfum
    Diorella
    Cuir de Russie
    Chanel Pour Monsieur




    I never really warmed up to Mitsouko myself.
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    Aromatics Elixir! Its the best of the green/herbal/floral chypres.

    I'd disagree with categorizing some of the fragrances mentioned as chypres. Traditionally, a fragrance has to have a top note of bergamot, and a base of oakmoss and patchouli (or in some cases animalic notes like civit, or labdanum). I know the category has been re-defined with the ban on oakmoss, but I have a hard time seeing No. 19, Cabotine, Le Parfum de Therese or Badgley Mischka as Chypres.
    I'd agree with your statement. It gets very confusing; even more so when there seems to be two kinds of chypres - mossy and leathers. So many perfume contain oakmoss in the base, and even bergamot or galbanum in the top- many classic florals do, yet I wouldn't consider them chypres. I go more by the smell, than the listing of notes. Are those accord/compositions showcased? If so, it's a chypre. I would consider No 19 a green-floral, as I get more vetiver than moss or leather. Private Collection to my nose is a shrieking green-floral- a pine like note is way more prominent than any moss.

    My favorite sub-categories are floral-chypres, then probably citrus chypres. My overall faves are Patou's 1000 (and even this is on the boarder of chypre/floral, imo), Aromatics Elixir, Diorella, Paloma Picasso, and Caleche. In general, my least favorite are the fruity-chypres...Although Diorella's peach note becomes quite prominent in warmer weather
    I forgot Halston! The cologne spray didn't do it for me, but the parfum is glorious.
    Oh, and Azuree, I do enjoy that one.
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    I'd agree with your statement. It gets very confusing; even more so when there seems to be two kinds of chypres - mossy and leathers. So many perfume contain oakmoss in the base, and even bergamot or galbanum in the top- many classic florals do, yet I wouldn't consider them chypres. I go more by the smell, than the listing of notes. Are those accord/compositions showcased? If so, it's a chypre. I would consider No 19 a green-floral, as I get more vetiver than moss or leather. Private Collection to my nose is a shrieking green-floral- a pine like note is way more prominent than any moss.

    My favorite sub-categories are floral-chypres, then probably citrus chypres. My overall faves are Patou's 1000 (and even this is on the boarder of chypre/floral, imo), Aromatics Elixir, Diorella, Paloma Picasso, and Caleche. In general, my least favorite are the fruity-chypres...Although Diorella's peach note becomes quite prominent in warmer weather
    I forgot Halston! The cologne spray didn't do it for me, but the parfum is glorious.
    Oh, and Azuree, I do enjoy that one.
    I'm very confused (as a few here seem to be) by what constitutes a chypre if oakmoss is no longer used. What is the substitute? Is bergamot a requirement or just common as a top note? And if some fragrances are just 'chypres' then why are others floral or fruity or green chypres? When do you feel the need the subcategorize?
    All I know is that I love Mitsouko, but otherwise I'm really a novice to this category, so the thread is VERY helpful!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chestnut View Post
    Yes, I have to say I still find this category confusing.


    Same here! (I used Osmoz as a "guide" when I posted earlier in this thread.) Some of the fragrances I mentioned (such as Cabotine) are classified there as chypres, but when smelling them, my nose wouldn't immediately tell my brain it was sniffing chypres, (although I do detect what I think are chypre-like notes in the drydowns). Osmoz talks about "fruity" vs. "floral" chypres and then overlaps many of the fragrances into both categories, which confuses me. When I responded, I was thinking of Chypres as scents having citrus topnotes with woody basenotes. Quite frankly, I don't know what I'm talking about,


    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgie
    if my favorite chypre, Jean Louis Scherrer, is not a chypre (I don't think there's any bergamot)--my whole Weltanschauung will go into crisis!


    Definitely! I'd forgotten about this one!

    I'm not sure I understand the "new chypre" thing, either. I LOVE Narciso and I've always preferred the edp (pink bottle), but to me, all versions smell more like Egyptian Musk than the requisite woods/mosses/citrus.
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    Shiloh!

    (Is Shiloh a chypre?) It's Roudnitska-gorgeous.

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    O.K., I actually had to do a little looking into what was a chypre when I put together the sampling list. It looks like the definition differs quite a bit, depending where you look.

    Chypre itself means from Cyprus. That doesn't tell us much.

    Some dictionaries define chypre as a perfume made with sandalwood! However, Coty Chypre, which is what most fragrance people use as the reference, had a bergamot top note, floral middle notes, and an oakmoss (and possibly amber?) base.

    Some people say now that if it has a mossy/woody base, that's enough to constitute a chypre. (Michael Edwards doesn't use the term "chypre" in his classifications--instead, he uses "mossy woods".) Others say you have to at least start with some citrus, and a few hardcore purists say it has to be bergamot. I'm in the first school--I rarely catch citrus on my skin unless it's strong.

    I do think the modern use of "chypre" is really stretching it and that it is often being used as a marketing term. To me, if the drydown isn't a slight bit bitter, green, and woodsy, it ain't a chypre. When Persimon and I tried all the classics (welcome, friend!), it really clarified for me what a chypre smells like. I suppose that's tautological, but so be it.
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    New to frags, still to test many...

    Narciso Rodriguez EDP!!! ahhhhh, drool

    Chypre - floral/woody/musk...
    Cyphre - fruity

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    I love this thread. Adding Sous le Vent and Chypre Fatale to the list. I tried the chypre Fatale for the first time yesterday and I foun} it very appealing.

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    Per Tovah's comment, I'm sniffing on Evidence (Un jour se lève)--a chypre!? I'd never have thunk it.

    Gotta give a little shout out for dear Miss Balmain. Her amber drydown is exquisite--especially NOT on my skin but on fabric. Her top notes are uber old-lady grandma-like, and I can thoroughly embrace that when I'm in the mood. Maybe we should do an old-lady scent synchronization day and bash that image!?

    I like to wear Femme outside. Funny that. I don't think "wear this while laboring in the yard" was part of Rochas's original ad copy. She really stands up to the wind and compliments nature.

    Thanks to this thread, I'm putting Knowing on the to-sniff list. Purplebird said the magic word: orange.

    The March Sniff 'n' Speak is all about the chypres. Gear up, me hardees.

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    Floral Chypres -

    Badgley Mischka
    Agent Provocateur
    Balenciaga Le Dix
    Aromatics Elixir
    Bond No 9 Bryant Park
    Armani City Glam
    Lalique Perles de Lalique

    Fruity Chypres -

    Gucci by Gucci EDP
    Jasper Conran Woman
    Mauboussin by Mauboussin
    Chanel Cristalle
    Mitsouko

    other ones I am not sure of but think are chypres...

    Guerlain Rose Barbare
    Rosine Rose d'Amour
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    Quarry, if your initially think Knowing is too-too for you, spray it on your coat cuffs, hang the coat in the closet overnight, and smell it the cuffs the next day (or days). It's exceptionally yummy on clothing. It even smells great on your pillowcase the day after you sleep there.

    In regard to the question, "What is a Chypre?" I would offer this:
    Look for a combination of opposite smells, usually wet + dry or sweet+ bitter/sour/salty.
    Wet = sweet notes like fruits and ambers.
    Dry = salty, earthy, or woody notes like oakmoss, patchouli, galbanum.

    A classic, Old-School Chypre usually starts out green or pungent or citrusy on top, goes through some interesting florals, fruits, leathers, spices, or woods, and ends up sweet and ambery in the base. There is always a juxtaposition of salty, bitter, earthy, dry, woody with the sweet and wet notes.

    A high percentage of natural oakmoss used to contribute greatly to the dry and salty notes of a chypre, and it still can be used, but in lesser percentages. Therefore, perfumers are substituting a synthetic oakmoss or putting in many other kinds of wood scents, such a patchouli, vetiver, and the myriad of interesting new woody notes available nowadays.
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    Well, I don't want to seem perverse but I am still confused! I wear Mauboussin regularly and to me it's an oriental! Can it be both chypre and oriental? It's ambery, citric, cola-y and tobacco-y and maybe has a bit of "salty" patch in there but nothing that strikes me as bitter, green or austere, which is how I imagine a pillar of chypre.

    I mentioned Sublime as a possible chypre because it has a strong contrast between sweet (vanilla) and dark green (vetiver) that creates almost a twisted effect. Sublime has also been called "oriental".

    I imagined chypres as having that high baroque tension or twist, an in Purplebird's "opposites" reference. But do orientals, by virtue of piling on lots of stuff, also wind up automatically in the "chypre" category, or do we require a sense of bitter green in there? Would an amber/patchouli like Coromandel count as a chypre?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chestnut View Post
    Can it be both chypre and oriental?
    There is an increasingly fine line between Chypres and Woody Orientals. The new, woody molecules can give a fragrance the dry salty or sour quality of Chypres.

    Remember, the Old Chypre formula for was bergamot + oakmoss + patchouli + labdanum (amber), and then any other notes could be added, such as fruits, florals, leathers. The New Chypre formula substitutes other woods for the oakmoss and often substitutes musk or lighter sweet notes for the amber.

    There is an increasing similarity between Chypres and Woody Orientals. These are my two favorite olfactive families. The new Woody Orientals tend to omit the sweetness that clearly pushed them into the Oriental category. They are left with airy, earthy, rather dry characteristics that make them lean toward Chypres. The use of oud and vetiver (which are bitter and sour respectively) coupled with sweet florals, spices, or fruits make them fall into a category all their own, with plenty of overlap into Chypres, The deciding factor in the past has been the presence or absence of oakmoss (which is not as relevant now due to restrictions) and the amount of amber in the base (which is also not as relevant with the New Chypres.

    I personally think that Parfum de Therese is a Chypre that falls on the border of fruity florals. But see how different it is from fruity florals? It is clear and clean. It is less sweet than most fruity florals. It doesn't finish on a big, girly, sweet musk base or heavy, creamy vanilla notes. The base is woody.

    I've never smelled Jean Patou Sublime, but 1000 is a Chypre that falls on the border of an Animalic Foral. But it's pungent in the top, and it has a big, woody apricot-osmanthus note that dominates the drydown.

    Chanel Coromandel is a Woody Oriental with huge amber notes. It also has some incense resins that give it a dryness that pushes it toward Chypres, so I can see what you mean. To me, it is more Oriental because of the sweetness.

    And no, not all Chypres are Green. Absolutely not. So the presence of galbanum, although important to many of them, is not a deciding factor.

    The boundaries of perfumes are changing with the creation of every new fragrance molecule. I wish everyone could smell Chypre de Coty for a benchmark.
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    My favorite chypre is probably 31 Rue Cambon. And Cuir de Russie, if that's considered a chypre!

    I recently discovered Rosine's Rose d'Amour, which is a soft green-rose chypre that is very warm, as opposed to cooler green-rose chypres like Chanel No 19, which I can't wear. It's a little grassy and the Guide describes is as having a "barnyard" narcissus note, and I think that's the note that I respond to.

    I also like Parfumerie Generale Corps at Ames for a really powerful green chypre.
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    Corps et Ames is one of my faves! It smells slightly similar to the popular Montale's Black Aoud (sp?).

    I think the chypre category is tough to get a handle on because there are so many subcategories of chypre that it can be confusing. Add to that the new definition, which makes absolutely no sense to me scent-wise or intellectually whatsoever, and, you've got a complete mess on your hands regarding the category. I'm not sure it's possible to give a good definition of chypre as the perfume industry currently wants us to use it.

    Growing up with a mom who wore exlusively chypres and greens, I just automatically "know" that traditional chypre smell (I know it when I smell it!). I don't think patchouli had a lot to do with the category until recently. In recent years, it has been touted as the new oakmoss and has replaced oakmoss as the definition of chypre.

    This redefinition is what allows something like Narciso Rodriquez or Miss Dior Cherie to be classified as a "chypre" (Seattlelight rolling her eyes); give me a break.

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    Purplebird, thanks for the info on chypres. I wish I could smell the Coty Chypre too!

    I guess I've always associated chypres with a greenish note, at least in the base, although I think it's the oakmoss (or substitute) type of "greenish," not necessary the galbanum. That was confirmed from all the chypres we tried. (And because there were so many different definitions of chypre, I decided to try the ones that pretty much everyone seemed to agree constituted chypres, such as Diorella, Femme, etc.)

    But I see what you're saying--perhaps it's not necessarily that bitter-ish green edge as much as it based on contrast.

    Perhaps it's "chypre is as chypre does"? Actually, that might be my new saying!

    Anyhow, great contributions, everyone. Looking forward to our March S&S.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seattlelight View Post
    This redefinition is what allows something like Narciso Rodriquez or Miss Dior Cherie to be classified as a "chypre" (Seattlelight rolling her eyes); give me a break.
    Pah! If Miss Dior Cherie is a chypre then I'm Nancy Reagan!

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    OMG ! All this talk about chypres is making my credit card itch like crazy . I forgot to say I adore Caleche- silly me- I wore it to death ( as usual when I love a fragrance ) and of course Chanel No.19 which I love too and Aromatics Elixir. I think I am first and foremost naturally a chypre person even though I love violets. I gravitate towards chypres naturally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soirdelune View Post
    Pah! If Miss Dior Cherie is a chypre then I'm Nancy Reagan!

    Hey, soirdelune, just say "No!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by seattlelight View Post
    I'm not sure it's possible to give a good definition of chypre as the perfume industry currently wants us to use it....I don't think patchouli had a lot to do with the category until recently. In recent years, it has been touted as the new oakmoss and has replaced oakmoss as the definition of chypre..
    I totally agree.
    In no way will I equate the new Gucci with the true concept of Chypre.
    It is sweet and sour, yes, but it reminds me more of Sour Patch Kids candy than perfume.
    Really, the new Pink Chypres are a class of their own--a few very good but most not to my liking at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alba View Post
    Would you say Daim Blond qualifies as a chypre?
    Well, I made my own investigations. Fragantica defines it as a chypre floral, and so does osmoz. Its notes are:

    top notes: Hawthorn, Ceylonese cardamom

    heart notes:Tuscany Pallida, Iris, Abricot Stone

    base notes:Musk, Heliotrope, Leather

    I would have imagined it could be a leather chypre, like Bandit.
    Edwards classifies it under "dry woods", the same definition as Bois des Illes (which also has the term "classical" attached to it), and Bandit. So what is it? floral, chypre, woods... probably a bit of everything ...it's somehow confusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purplebird7 View Post
    I totally agree.
    In no way will I equate the new Gucci with the true concept of Chypre.
    It is sweet and sour, yes, but it reminds me more of Sour Patch Kids candy than perfume.
    Really, the new Pink Chypres are a class of their own--a few very good but most not to my liking at all.
    I agree, the perfume industry wants to sell to 2 big markets at once. The younger audience that knows only sweeter frags and the older (like me) who really want real mossy chypres. They CALL the "new" chypres "pink" or whatever, but they are too sweet IMO and should have their own definition. They feel like "SweetTart" candy to me. There is none of the tangy/bitter, sour/green, earthy/woody note that is missing from today's market and is really what chypre is all about. I'm with the "Nancy Reagans" and will have to say, "NO!"

    Also, while I'm on my rant I'd like to say, If we can put a robot on Mars, why can't we make a chypre with new materials that's just as good as the originals? Actually, Mitsouko is still excellent, so what's the problem? I think it has to do with marketers trying to please too many people all the time, so they ruin the chypres by making them sweet. Look what they did to Covet. It started out great and they pulled back and botched it up so it's halfway tangy, halfway sweet- basically annoying.
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