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    Default Tiffany's for Men: Have I missed something?

    I look around here on BN, on eBay, and other places and I read "hard to find", "exclusive", "discontinued". Yet, at Tiffany's website, they have both sizes available. I even called the store and they also confirmed full availability. Have I missed something? Why does everyone seem to think this is so hard to find when they can buy it for the real price of $50 instead of $120, fresh off the shelf?

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    I never understood it either. It's in stock here in Chicago too.

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    Default Re: Tiffany's for Men: Have I missed something?

    Quote Originally Posted by thenmarcher View Post
    I look around here on BN, on eBay, and other places and I read "hard to find", "exclusive", "discountinued". Yet, either at the Tiffany's website, they have both available. I even called the store and they also confirmed full availability. Have I missed something? Why does everyone seem to think this is so hard to find when they can buy it for the real price of $50 instead of $120, fresh off the shelf?

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    sounds like yet another case of simple overhype!

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    Default Re: Tiffany's for Men: Have I missed something?

    When I first discovered the existence of this fragrance a year ago, I almost succumbed to the false advertising on eBay that Tiffany for Men was "discontinued" and "hard-to-find."

    Luckily, my fellow bn'ers alerted me of these lies and I, too, found it readily available from the Tiffany website and in the stores.

    People on eBay just trying to make a quick buck!

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    Once you start looking around for less than mainstream designer bottles on ebay one thing you'll notice right away is that damn near everything you like is either rare as rare can be or flat out discontinued. I see Yatagan as rare all the time, 3rd Man is down to a few bottles in some guy's basement in New Jersey, Ungaro II salvaged from a UFO crash, hurry, last one left!!

    When I'm bored enough I email these sellers and send as many examples of their rare or discontinued items as I can turn up. Bored with spare time and I'll put the seller on some mailing lists just to make sure they can keep up with what's going on out here in the real world.

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    LOL, awesome.


    Quote Originally Posted by noirwest View Post
    Once you start looking around for less than mainstream designer bottles on ebay one thing you'll notice right away is that damn near everything you like is either rare as rare can be or flat out discontinued. I see Yatagan as rare all the time, 3rd Man is down to a few bottles in some guy's basement in New Jersey, Ungaro II salvaged from a UFO crash, hurry, last one left!!

    When I'm bored enough I email these sellers and send as many examples of their rare or discontinued items as I can turn up. Bored with spare time and I'll put the seller on some mailing lists just to make sure they can keep up with what's going on out here in the real world.
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    Don't bother with Tiffany for Men EDT - I own it and have never had one positive comment on it.

    But I also own Tiffany for Men Aftershave Balm. It is one of the most pleasant balms I've ever put on, and came in a glass bottle almost the same as the EDTs with a pump attachment. And, for reasons unknown to me - I've had heaps of positive comments whenever I've solely put it on - of the "Hmmmm - what's that you're wearing" variety.

    I don't understand it.
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    Default Re: Tiffany's for Men: Have I missed something?

    i tested it on my hand once and found it not special at all, it tried to like it but could not

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    It's a classic and definitely one of Jacque Polge's best - and at $50/$75 for the 1.7/3.4 a pretty good deal.

    I agree this is the case of some online merchants wanting to take advantage of the fact that it's not as widely available (but still easy to obtain) as it once was.

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    I think it is fantastic and I get many positive comments on it. I guess it all depends on who is wearing it.....

    I got mine from a gracious BNer. So keep an eye out on the Sales Board.
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    Default Re: Tiffany's for Men: Have I missed something?

    Mr. Nagle said it in The Strategy and Tactics of Pricing. It is called "inventory effect", rare merchandise is more valued than ready available ones. Thus "discontinued" would be the juju word that makes uninformed customers pay overprices.

    Regarding Tiffany: Classic, yes. Prefered, no. Would buy again, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petruccijc View Post
    I think it is fantastic and I get many positive comments on it. I guess it all depends on who is wearing it.....

    Maybe it is an age factor I am 34 years old I felt I was too young to wear it

    it just did not feel right I don't know

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    Would someone please post a link to the Tiffany website?? Thanks much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mi-hooked? View Post
    Would someone please post a link to the Tiffany website?? Thanks much.
    here you go

    http://www.tiffany.com/Shopping/Item...+6-ri+-ni+0-t+

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    Don't bother with Tiffany for Men EDT - I own it and have never had one positive comment on it.
    I don't understand it.
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    Please try Tiffany for yourself.... I would say that this quote is the minority opinion. TFM is one of the greatest men's classics ever made. It took me a couple wears to appreciate it's genius, and now that I have I'd put it in my top-5. Also, more than almost any other fragrance the top/heart/base are bold, distinct stages with subtle transitions connecting them. It's pretty amazing to have a strong citrus oil opening that becomes such a rich sandalwood. It lasts forever with some great sillage. It's by Polge, so it's definitely got a Chanel feel to it.

    And I've seen that eBay auction with the bogus 'discontinued' claims. Only the bath products are no longer available (except the after shave, which is part of a gift set). I actually got a bottle of TFM SPF8 moisturizer on eBay a while back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbBD View Post
    Please try Tiffany for yourself.... I would say that this quote is the minority opinion. TFM is one of the greatest men's classics ever made. It took me a couple wears to appreciate it's genius, and now that I have I'd put it in my top-5. Also, more than almost any other fragrance the top/heart/base are bold, distinct stages with subtle transitions connecting them. It's pretty amazing to have a strong citrus oil opening that becomes such a rich sandalwood. It lasts forever with some great sillage. It's by Polge, so it's definitely got a Chanel feel to it.

    And I've seen that eBay auction with the bogus 'discontinued' claims. Only the bath products are no longer available (except the after shave, which is part of a gift set). I actually got a bottle of TFM SPF8 moisturizer on eBay a while back.
    It is pretty pointless quoting me, and then editing the quote such that it appears I said something which I plainly did not say - namely, that I did not understand Tiffany for Men, whereas what I had actually stated was that I did not understand why the Aftershave balm version should be such a bigger hit than the EDT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    It is pretty pointless quoting me, and then editing the quote such that it appears I said something which I plainly did not say - namely, that I did not understand Tiffany for Men, whereas what I had actually stated was that I did not understand why the Aftershave balm version should be such a bigger hit than the EDT.
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    Hey Renato - if you actually read what I wrote, you'd see my response had nothing to do with what you did and did not understand.


    I was quoting for the purpose of brevity and only intended to quote the first paragraph of your first post, which was the language I actually responded to.

    Please, try to look at things in perspective and in their entirety. Specifically, I was describing my view of TFM and not your opinion on it. Therefore your thoughts on the after shave balm - or whatever - were not relevant to what I said.

    Furthermore, it's pretty 'pointless' of you to tell someone you don't know to "not bother" trying something because you don't get complements on it. Maybe you don't get complements for reasons having nothing to do with wearing TFM. Relax.

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    The concentree version has not been made in years.
    Very elegant and classy fragrance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbBD View Post
    Please try Tiffany for yourself.... I would say that this quote is the minority opinion. TFM is one of the greatest men's classics ever made. It took me a couple wears to appreciate it's genius, and now that I have I'd put it in my top-5. Also, more than almost any other fragrance the top/heart/base are bold, distinct stages with subtle transitions connecting them. It's pretty amazing to have a strong citrus oil opening that becomes such a rich sandalwood. It lasts forever with some great sillage. It's by Polge, so it's definitely got a Chanel feel to it.

    And I've seen that eBay auction with the bogus 'discontinued' claims. Only the bath products are no longer available (except the after shave, which is part of a gift set). I actually got a bottle of TFM SPF8 moisturizer on eBay a while back.
    Agree 100%

    I prefer it to any of Chanel's offerings. As a matter of fact, it's my favorite Polge scent... (although I haven't tried Ungaro 1)

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    Perhaps you are missing something, or perhaps your not. Personally if they took the name Tiffany off the bottle, and put Chanels name on it everybody would be singing it's praises. Personally I find it to be one of the top 10 fragrances ever created. It's never wrong, and it's never out of place. I kind of like the fact you have to search a little to find it. For me it was worth the search. You have to decide that for yourself.IMHO
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    Does Tiffany give out samples?
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    Quote Originally Posted by manicboy View Post
    Does Tiffany give out samples?
    When I went to Tiffanys they did not give out any

    I just sprayed some on my hand

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    Isn't this very close to Chanel PM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbBD View Post
    Hey Renato - if you actually read what I wrote, you'd see my response had nothing to do with what you did and did not understand.


    I was quoting for the purpose of brevity and only intended to quote the first paragraph of your first post, which was the language I actually responded to.

    Please, try to look at things in perspective and in their entirety. Specifically, I was describing my view of TFM and not your opinion on it. Therefore your thoughts on the after shave balm - or whatever - were not relevant to what I said.

    Furthermore, it's pretty 'pointless' of you to tell someone you don't know to "not bother" trying something because you don't get complements on it. Maybe you don't get complements for reasons having nothing to do with wearing TFM. Relax.
    Again - I was plainly and unambiguously misrepresented by what was quoted. Had I wanted to express that view, I would have done so - but I didn't, because that is not my view. My reading of your subsequent opinions on Tiffany for Men - which did not address the modified quotation - does nothing to change that.

    And again - in your response above, you state that I specifically told someone not to try something - which again is something I did not do. If anything, what I wrote could be viewed as an implication to try before buying.

    I recollect that one of my former work colleagues owned three bottles of Tiffany aftershave balm, but didn't own the EDT - yet he owned dozens of other EDTs. My observation with respect to the efficacy of the two versions is just that - an observation that I found remarkable - so I remarked on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by richard d View Post
    Isn't this very close to Chanel PM?

    My thoughts, exactly. I can't recall if it was Ungaro II or III that was also remarkably similar to CPM. I swapped them all off and kept the Chanel and raised a toast to Mr Polges for pulling a fast one not once, but twice.

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    Contrary to popular belief, the perfumer behind Ungaro Pour L'Homme I is not Jacques Polge; it is François Demachy, who is also the creator of Ungaro Pour L'Homme III and more than likely collaborated with Polge on Ungaro Pour L'Homme II.

    For over two decades he has been
    Polge's protégé, and they have collaborated on many fragrances. In fact, during the Ungaro Pour L'Homme years, 1991-1993, they collaborated on the reorchestration of Bourjois' Soir de Paris (1992), originally created by legendary Chanel perfumer Ernest Beaux in 1928.

    If you're ready for a shock, a number of French websites and other sources list him as the creator of Antaeus, Égoïste, and Coco. At the very least, it seems that Demachy is as much responsible for these fragrances as is Polge.

    See the following mini bio:

    http://www.mimifroufrou.com/scenteds...ted_quote.html

    French websites that list his creations:

    http://www.auparfum.com/?+-Francois-Demachy-+

    http://www.museudelperfum.net/?q=en/...rence&id=90181

    It seems that Demachy has been content to stay in the background while the attributions and accolades for Chanel's creations have gone Polge's way, and probably in most cases, though not all, deservedly so.

    Of course, now that he is the "super artistic director" for olfactory development at LVMH, his profile is much more salient. He is the perfumer behind Dior Homme Cologne, which is, in its own way, as good as Dior Homme EDT, if not better, and infinitely superior to the tawdry EDP version. He is also the perfumer behind Farenheit 32 and Eau Sauvage Fraîcheur Cuir, and most recently (2009) Fahrenheit Absolute. He trained with legendary perfumer Henri Robert (creator of Chanel Pour Monsieur, Chanel No. 19, and Chanel Cristalle) and is my current perfumer of interest. I am currently sampling his creations for Bourjois (owned by Chanel). Bourjois Masculin Equateur created 1993 is clearly a variation on the theme of Ungaro Pour L'Homme III; it's more transparent, more citrusy and more geranium rosey than Ungaro Pour L'Homme III and a superb fragrance in its own right. He is a master perfumer if there ever was one.

    Back on topic, I agree totally with Ron199 that Tiffany for Men is one of the ten most perfect fragrances created, and, at least in my mind, Polge's most perfect creation. Incidentally, Demachy is the perfumer behind Tiffany for Women. Tiffany for Men was up until recently widely available in all Tiffany retail establishments. I believe it can only be ordered on line these days and might only be available in a
    few select Tiffany stores. If someone knows more, perhaps they could help us out here. It has recently been reorchestrated, probably with the IFRA recommendations in mind. I find the reorchestration very close to the original with the citrusy opening a little less elegant than the original formulation but with little difference otherwise. The chypre base seems to have survived intact.

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    exactly the kind of posts that was missing for a long time now! Thanx for the mind bending insight Scentemental. and yes, i did notice your sotd posts and was intrigued by it (Bourjois) too. i must admit, i ran a bit of search on who stocks them as well .
    now that i know it's creator is none other than the nose behind such classics as UI, II and III...i'm even more fascinated!

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    I like and admire your boundless interest and curiosity Jenson.

    I have found that following the "perfumer" trail yields some interesting discoveries.

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    Interesting statement from Monsieur Demachy:

    "The idea at Dior for instance is to elevate the perfume house to the level of luxury that it reached in couture. Currently certain juices on the market do not amount to more than 5 % of the factory price. Nothing of the sort with us! If one of our female customers is to buy a 70 Euros perfume, she should get a fair value out of it. But Dior is only the visible part of the iceberg."

    I disagree that Dior Homme Cologne is superior to the EdT. Dior should've stopped at the EdT and left it alone.

    Back to the main point, I seem to recall walking into Tiffany past that godawful line of sad males waiting to buy their gfs/wives some overpriced jewelry and spritzing some TfM on. I recall it to be citrusy and mossy. Again, I need to score a sample of this to make a proper judgement.
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    Thanks to Scentemental for the perfumer's opinion.

    Renato, I'm not sure how you can claim you someone wouldn't think you told the thread author not to try TFM when you said the following: "Don't bother with Tiffany for Men EDT - I own it and have never had one positive comment on it. "

    If you were trying to say "you only need to try the after shave", then it was a tortured use of the English language as the normal interpretation of "don't bother with" is "don't bother trying". You could have clarified by saying "the after shave is so good you don't need to try the EdT". Don't jump on me for responding to the clear and obvious interpretation of your language. You could write more clearly instead of expecting people to know what you meant.

    Also, as I point out again, I didn't even respond to what you wrote, but rather used it as a jumping off point for me to discuss TFM. The fact you'd even bother responding that I misinterpreted your (completely difficult to understand) post when I wasn't actually responding to is indicative of.... well, I don't need to say it. Maybe a dingo ate one of your family members so you're having a bad day, I don't know, but just try to relax and don't get your panties all in a bunch because you were misquoted in a meaningless context.

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