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    Default Question for the guys -- do you like/dislike white flower perfumes?

    Do you like any white-flowery, indolic scents, a la Carnal Flower, Joy, etc? (To wear or on others.) My DH loathes them and now I'm wondering, does this reflect a typical male reaction or is it personal? (Some women seem to love indoles -- not sure about men.) Figure this is a good place to find out!

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    There was a time here when Carnal Flower was the very it scent for men to wear. Everyone here was wearing and praising it. Maybe some of those members will speak up. Doesn't sound to me like your husband's reaction should be necessarily typical.
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    Love white florals, though I don't think I'm a 'typical' male (whatever that means).

    My newest favorite is Velvet Gardenia by Tom Ford. Perhaps the 'butchest' version of a gardenia I've ever smelled. Indoles, skanky almost oily in texture, like Roquefort cheese. Not for the fainthearted.
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    I am not a big fan of tuberose but I own (and enjoy) Fracas and Richard James Savile Row,

    At least one source (Perfume Intelligence) lists tuberose as a middle note in Derby, my favorite Guerlain.

    My favorite Soft Oriental, the ambery incensey Winter Star, has a lot of indole in it.
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    I love white florals!

    Of course, as with any category, it depends on the fragrance - I love the tuberose in Carnal Flower; hate the cold, anemic faux-tuberose note in Vierges Et Toreros. In general, though, I have a great fondness for tuberose.

    I love gardenia, but I've very rarely smelled it well-done. Kai was a disaster on me - totally unlike the real thing, or any flower that grows outside of air-fresheners. Michael Storer's Stephanie did a decent job, but it was still off and a bit watery and distorted. It's beautiful, but the difference between it and the real thing is still as wide as that between Les Demoiselles d'Avignon and real women.

    Jasmine can be nice, and I love the natural absolute, but I don't have enough experience of it fragrances to say. Too often I've smelled "fruity-floral" jasmine, which doesn't jive with me.

    If muguet is a white floral, then yes, I like it. Same goes for orange blossom, if it smells natural, which could also be said for lilac. There are some floral notes I don't have enough experience with to say - narcissus, hyacinth etc.

    I especially like white florals in orientals. Ayala Moriel combines two of my favorite notes - tuberose and myrrh - in her Razala, and the effect is both beautiful and unorthodox.

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    I enjoy white flower scents on my wife, and I especially like the "dirtier," more indolic ones for myself. I frequently wear Carnal Flower and Une Fleur de Cassie and keep bottles of both.

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    Default Re: Question for the guys -- do you like/dislike white flower perfumes?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    Love white florals, though I don't think I'm a 'typical' male (whatever that means).
    I don't think most males outside of Basenotes would even know what an indolic white floral was!

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    My newest favorite is Velvet Gardenia by Tom Ford. Perhaps the 'butchest' version of a gardenia I've ever smelled. Indoles, skanky almost oily in texture, like Roquefort cheese. Not for the fainthearted.
    Your descriptions of the florals from this line tempt me... I think my next TPC order may have to include a TF sample set.

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    I have no objections to wearing a white floral, I just haven't found too many I like because I don't like floral/sweet fragrances. Is violet considered a white floral? If so I very much enjoy SMN Violette because it's not sweet. I love Givenchy III, Diorama and Diorella, but those are much more floral chypres. I also have a white floral, Un Fleur de Chanel that I occasionally wear.

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    Rose and Jasmine based scents always have my vote...be it the wonderful Fleur Du male or Fleur de Oranger ...i also love tuberose based scents like Un Cedre by serge lutens...it's not hard for me to imagine some men not taking white floral based scents to liking immediately...i wudnt have, before basenotes. but now, my perspective for scents have changed altogether...its just the matter of keeping an open mind to scents and leaving behind any association it comes with...maybe you could help ur hubby feel comfortable around these scents? maybe start with something which doesnt come out strong as a feminine scent, Dior Eau Suavage probably?

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    White floral fragrances often smell like the equivalent of a police siren if overdone. There's a woman in my building who baths in Carnal Flower, the scent scares all living things away. White florals are very tricky. I think they're repulsive to most. I enjoy them in moderation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggles View Post
    There's a woman in my building who baths in Carnal Flower, the scent scares all living things away.
    I want to live in your building!

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    I really love jasmine in particular, and there are jasmine perfumes that are pretty aggressive, and not sweet at all, or at least not in the conventional powdery way that florals can be sweet. I love wearing Serge Lutens' oft-maligned ("death by jasmine") A la Nuit. Certain white florals, worn close to the skin, can give the same sort of powerful introvert vibe that musks do at low doses.

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    Default Re: Question for the guys -- do you like/dislike white flower perfumes?

    I will speak for my husband-- he hates indolic jasmine and picks it out right away in any fragrance I try on.

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    (Not that I like it either.)

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    Absolutely, i love flower perfumes, since i feel confortable wearing the fragrance.
    Today i am wearing CARNAL FLOWER and it is a gem !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strollyourlobster View Post
    Certain white florals, worn close to the skin, can give the same sort of powerful introvert vibe that musks do at low doses.
    I like that "powerful introvert" idea. I guess "not overdoing" as Ruggles suggests would at least help me feel less conspicuous when wearing my two w.f.'s which are Amoureuse and Fleur de Cassie. But I think there's something to the joke people are making here that male BNer's may have a different level of tolerance for all kinds of olfactory intensity. 30 Roses DH and mine might be having the "typical guy" reaction.

    Jenson's Eau Sauvage idea won't work because he also hates any classic smelling men's perfume. He likes soft dark twisty things -- almost everything he wears is called "noire" or black!

    Razala sounds amazing. Is there any lasting power on it? I might have to order. Ditto Winter Star.

    I don't think I really get gardenia yet. There's a store around me called Enfleurage that someone on the web said had the greatest gardenia extract. I think I'll go get some and try it out -- maybe someone wants a sniff too?

    Thanks for enlightening!

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    I love some floral notes, specially when they're not the sweet and doll-like ones. I like indolic ones like tuberose, gardenia, night-jasmine (the one caught by night with a particular green-indolic edge), bulgarian rose (unsweet, not soapy and slightly indolic) and also piercing green ones like fresia, honeysuckle, hyacinth, muguet and magnolia, and of course also powdery earthy ones like iris and narcissus.

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    Default Re: Question for the guys -- do you like/dislike white flower perfumes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Galamb_Borong View Post
    I don't think most males outside of Basenotes would even know what an indolic white floral was!



    Your descriptions of the florals from this line tempt me... I think my next TPC order may have to include a TF sample set.
    Most men who smelled an indolic white floral would have two reactions (I'm generalizing, of course): 1. It smells like an old lady 2. It smells like sh*t.

    Tom Ford takes a very serious, studied and focused approach to his floral scents. I don't like all of them (Black Violet just doesn't have the oomph I get from other violet favorites), but the ones I love are quite unique. Shame that they're so overpriced and exclusive.

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    My newest favorite is Velvet Gardenia by Tom Ford. Perhaps the 'butchest' version of a gardenia I've ever smelled. Indoles, skanky almost oily in texture, like Roquefort cheese. Not for the fainthearted.
    Wow..This sounds....awful
    Guess I'm fainthearted. When it comes to fragrances smelling like Roquefort cheese that is.
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    Funny you mention white flowers. Recently got aware how much I love them - nowhere better than in Guerlain's Vetiver pour Elle. Love the spicy, metallic, heady smell of jasmine, orange flower, honeysuckle, carnation, tuberose. But true, no straight guys that I know of like very floral perfumes, only woody ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianroy View Post
    Wow..This sounds....awful
    Guess I'm fainthearted. When it comes to fragrances smelling like Roquefort cheese that is.
    LOL. I guess to appreciate it, you might have to smell a real gardenia bush (in the ground) smelled in full bloom on a summer night. I have one right next to my driveway. Get a whiff of that, and it does smell like potent, aged cheese. VG recreates that.

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    I like Fracas and Velvet Gardenia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chestnut View Post
    I like that "powerful introvert" idea. I guess "not overdoing" as Ruggles suggests would at least help me feel less conspicuous when wearing my two w.f.'s which are Amoureuse and Fleur de Cassie. But I think there's something to the joke people are making here that male BNer's may have a different level of tolerance for all kinds of olfactory intensity. 30 Roses DH and mine might be having the "typical guy" reaction.

    Jenson's Eau Sauvage idea won't work because he also hates any classic smelling men's perfume. He likes soft dark twisty things -- almost everything he wears is called "noire" or black!

    Razala sounds amazing. Is there any lasting power on it? I might have to order. Ditto Winter Star.
    Razala doesn't have massive sillage, but the longevity is very good, over twelve hours on me. It's a favorite of mine, but I highly recommend sampling it first as it's unusual and expensive.

    Winter Star is also great. And with that fragrance... one application lasts forever and has sillage with a twenty-mile radius. You were warned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    LOL. I guess to appreciate it, you might have to smell a real gardenia bush (in the ground) smelled in full bloom on a summer night. I have one right next to my driveway. Get a whiff of that, and it does smell like potent, aged cheese. VG recreates that.
    While my gardenia plant never smelled like cheese, there are these flowering bushes that grow locally - I think they're in the dogwood family - that smell rather like super-spicy, floral pee.

    I think they smell kind of wonderful, in an eccentric way, though way too acrid if smelled up close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggles View Post
    White floral fragrances often smell like the equivalent of a police siren if overdone. There's a woman in my building who baths in Carnal Flower, the scent scares all living things away. White florals are very tricky. I think they're repulsive to most. I enjoy them in moderation.
    You've hit the nail on the head, Ruggles. White flower scents please me most when applied sparingly - especially on a man. (I'm still training my wife in the business of light application. )

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    From my wardrobe (60 bottles) and the maybe 1000 frags i ve tested so far in the last 2-3 years, Carnal Flower is the one that I prefer (by far) on me.

    I own it , of course, i had to buy it as soon as i sniffed it. No frag had impressed me that much (own it since 6 month now, so it s not like a short love that would last a few days before being bored by it).

    Also, it s projection and longevity are absolutely amazing.

    And finally, i never garner as many compliments as when i wear it. It works all the time, specially with the women, have much less men compliments. But i guess i can live with it ^^

    For some odd reason i don t like Fracas, also done with tuberose. I love Bandit though ^^
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    I don't tend to like in-your-face white florals, except perhaps as a very natural soliflore (Creed Jasmal is a good one IMO), but men's fragrances with a white floral heart are among the finest - from Dukes of Pall Mall Cotswold (jasmine, muguet) to Richard James EdT (tuberose), to Maxim's (jasmine, muguet) and scores of others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Guerlain View Post
    Funny you mention white flowers. Recently got aware how much I love them - nowhere better than in Guerlain's Vetiver pour Elle. Love the spicy, metallic, heady smell of jasmine, orange flower, honeysuckle, carnation, tuberose. But true, no straight guys that I know of like very floral perfumes, only woody ones.
    Hey! that is heterophobia

    I like Fleur du Male (perhaps I prefer the original over La cologne just because of its indolic* nature). Carnal Flower is OK. I also enjoy Full Jasmine, Angeliques SOus la Pluie, Neroli by C&S and White Musk, for subtle white flowers. I do not like Puro Lino though, even though I did enjoy it when I first sampled it. I tried to like FLeurs d'Oranger by Serge Lutens, but there is something in it that ruins the fragrance for me... I am not sure what it is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Guerlain View Post
    Funny you mention white flowers. Recently got aware how much I love them - nowhere better than in Guerlain's Vetiver pour Elle. Love the spicy, metallic, heady smell of jasmine, orange flower, honeysuckle, carnation, tuberose. But true, no straight guys that I know of like very floral perfumes, only woody ones.
    Another straight guy here disputing the above statement. I love and I am very comfy with white florals...

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