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    Arrow Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    After much time in the forums i have narrowed down my choices to Dior Eau Sauvage (original version) and Chanel Pour Monsieur (original version). I have tried both (sprayed on my skin)..and i can say i love both..But i only can choose one due to lack of funds.

    How similar are these two frags? both are strong citruses. Would getting both be a waste of money?

    In terms of longevity...which would be the longer lasting frag?

    Apologies for the numerous questions...i'm a newbie and with not much experience when it comes to frags. My previous frag was AdG and Polo Blue for 4 years.

    Thank you in advance to fellow basenoters who give a reply.

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    Default Re: Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    I can only give a half answer. For me, Dior's Eau Sauvage is one of the greatest scents. It is a classic, it has amazing depth for a citrus EDC style perfume. I have worn it for many years with great enjoyment.
    I can't comment on the Chanel, have never tried it. But I can't imagine it could surpass ES.
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    Though they're both classic citrus perfumes, these two are actually quite different from each other. I was asking the same question (of myself) about a year ago. I ended up buying Chanel PM. I'm very glad I did, since I was in Europe at the time where it's widely available; I had no idea how much harder it is to get in the U.S.

    When I got back to America, I picked up a bottle of Eau Sauvage. I'm really glad that I did.

    I now own, wear and love them both. Both are part of my warm-weather rotation. Neither is particularly long lasting, though both linger as beautiful skin scents.

    Chanel PM is a classic (some would say the classic) masculine chypre. Timeless and elegant. It was my SOTD yesterday, in fact. I will often wear this to more formal occasions.

    Eau Sauvage is a vaguely animalic variation on a classic cologne. My guess is that at the time of its release this was intended as a more informal scent. Time has made it a little less daring and a bit more conservative. ES took me longer to "get" than Chanel PM. It's deceptively complicated. Like the other Routnitska creations I've smelled, it takes a number of wearings to really perceive all the many things going on in it.

    So the bottom line: if you like both, get both. If you need to get one first and have access to Chanel PM, I might grab it simply because, outside of Europe, it can be a bit hard to get. Otherwise, you might decide on the basis of whether you prefer slightly more formal (C PM) or slightly less formal (ES) frags. Hard to go wrong either way!

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    Default Re: Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    In my country Malaysia, Chanel PM is everywhere.haven't seen the concentree version before. ES is also widely available. Malaysian weather is hot n humid, perfect for either one.

    Is CPM and ES definately short lasting frags or does it differ from skin to skin?

    Thanks PhinClio and odysseusm for the comments..really helped me a lot.

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    Default Re: Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    I think that getting either one of them would be a waste of money - they're short lasting scents where I live, so I can't imagine them lasting longer where you live. You would really have to be taken by their admittedly exquisite odors in order to buy them.

    To my mind, there are plenty of other long lasting citrus scents around to choose from (e.g. ADP Colonia Assoluta, Art Of Shaving Lemon, Aqua di Portofino, D&G Maculine and heaps of citrus-woody ones) so why bother with short lasting classics?
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    Default Re: Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    Whatever you do, don't listen to Renato, besides the fact that he's not responding to your question, you'd be depriving yourself of experiencing two of the great classics of perfumery. Your question wasn't "what is a long-lasting citrus? The question is "which should I pick?" Renato is known for his reading comprehension problems, so it's not his fault.

    Many years ago when these fragrances were created, longevity wasn't what it was today. It always makes me laugh when the SOLE complaint of a fragrance is longevity, as though one is prohibited from re-applying the fragrance. The fragrances mentioned by Renato are average at best - and the Art of Shaving one is really quite poor, IMO. The ADP is ok, but it's certainly doesn't hold a candle to either the Chanel or DIor.... even if it may last longer.

    Pour Monsieur is THE classic men's chypre. It's stately and elegant. The citrus plays less of a role overall then citrus does in Eau Sauvage. The transition from citrus to the oakmoss base is impressive and very smooth.

    Eau Sauvage is one of the great cologne-style citruses, but the addition of herbal notes and hedione set it apart. The ES base is woodier then PMs.

    Just because they both have citrus doesn't mean they're in the same category/genre.

    Because the Pour Monsieur (original) is getting harder to find in the US, and the Dior isn't, I'd say go with the Chanel first. Owning one does not preclude owning the other, especially if you want to have both as references for the classics.

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    Default Re: Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    I like both of these fragrances but do not own either one of them because the longevity of each is very poor on my skin. Dior's Diorella is definitely longer-lasting than Eau Sauvage. Luca Turin considers it a perfected Eau Sauvage and an excellent masculine, even though it is marketed to women. Diorella is the one I prefer and wear myself.

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    In short:

    Pour Monsieur = very rich citrus/neroli topnotes, with powerful oakmoss drydown

    Eau Sauvage = more linear, with lime on the top and beautiful jasmine (hedione) in the development

    As BBBd said, you shouldn't get impressed on the "poor longevity" comments. I have no problems on this field with any of these. For myself, I don't need a "longer lasting citrus", although there are some "longer lastings" that are much less classy.

    I admire your effort to narrow down your choice, and your options are certainly great.

    I would say: get Chanel if you want something more formal and exclusive, or get Dior if you want a more versatile, all-purpose, more modern, but still a top notch and timeless frag.

    Since you mentioned AdG and Polo Blue, I believe Eau Sauvage would fit your needs better than CPM. Good luck.

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    Default Re: Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    Quote Originally Posted by smeller View Post
    In short:

    Pour Monsieur = very rich citrus/neroli topnotes, with powerful oakmoss drydown

    Eau Sauvage = more linear, with lime on the top and beautiful jasmine (hedione) in the development

    As BBBd said, you shouldn't get impressed on the "poor longevity" comments. I have no problems on this field with any of these. For myself, I don't need a "longer lasting citrus", although there are some "longer lastings" that are much less classy.

    I admire your effort to narrow down your choice, and your options are certainly great.

    I would say: get Chanel if you want something more formal and exclusive, or get Dior if you want a more versatile, all-purpose, more modern, but still a top notch and timeless frag.

    Since you mentioned AdG and Polo Blue, I believe Eau Sauvage would fit your needs better than CPM. Good luck.
    All things mentioned are right, specially Smeller's remarks on their character - ChpM being more formal than CD's ES. bbBD is also right when saying than longevity was not an issue at the time they were both designed, Gents back in the 1950 / 1960's were not suppose to smell.

    Now, since I burn scents (Kouros being the only bomb noticed by thos around me), I spray them on my clothes. This will make them last longer.

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    i love both dearly

    if forced to make a choice, it'd be Dior Eau Sauvage. it's sparkling quality, amazing progressions and woody base...make it up for 3 perfumes in one. bonus: it's lasts longer than Chanel PM on me (however, 10-15 shots of PM and it'll linger with me whole day)

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    I'd endorse either as a classic and agree that the longevity is not that much of an issue, although Renato did offer some nice alternatives.

    Chanel Pour Monsieur is a bit more user friendly, less animalic...

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    Default Re: Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    Both are exquisite choices, but for a smoother (slightly powdery) finish, PM is the one. Eau Sauvage is a bit more 'bracing' so to speak. Such a difficult decision, both are sublimely executed, and such classics.
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    Unlike others, Eau Savage has the longetivity of dishwater on me. While it smells wonderful going on and I appreciate the artistry behind it, I'd vote for PM by a mile, although, as an earlier poster said, this is a more "formal" fragrance than Eau Savage which may be better as a day to day scent.

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    If you have to get one, get Chanel PM.

    But if I were you, i'd ditch both and then get ES Extrême and then Chanel PM Concentrée.

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    Default Re: Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    Between the two, Chanel PM without hesitation. I remember posting on here months back that Eau Savage reminded me of a big old bowl of Froot Loops.
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    Default Re: Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    Chanel PM.




    I have Chanel PM Concentree but told it is pretty much the same as the original. It is fantastic! I sold my blind buy Eau Savage because I couldn't accept its sharp lemony and rotten orange kinda of hints.

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    Default Re: Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    Man
    i was about to get PM but changed my mind
    I think I changed my mind again to getting it
    lol
    dang BNers
    LOL. dude everybody has different taste. From what I gather, you might prefer ES over PM


    But it is just can't go wrong with PM, it is so classic and well rounded.

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    Default Re: Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    Man
    i was about to get PM but changed my mind
    I think I changed my mind again to getting it
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    dang BNers
    I have a sample of Eau Sauvage you're welcome to have, just shoot me a PM and I'll pop it in the mail. Can't help you on Chanel PM though you can find it in quite a few department stores.
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    Default Re: Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    I've never smelled the original Chanel Pour Monsieur, but I've smelled the Concentrée many times and I like Eau Sauvage better.

    If you like both but can't afford two whole bottles, you could save money and buy smaller amounts of each. Check out http://scentsplits.wikidot.com/ or http://flacon.ambaric.net/ for ideas.
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    Default Re: Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    I've never smelled Chanel PM Concentree, but most reviews of it (both positive and negative) say it's totally different from Chanel PM. PM is a chypre. Isn't PM Concentree an oriental?

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    Default Re: Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    Brief search in eBay revealed two versions Chanel PM ( not Concentree ). Do anybody know what's the difference?



    Green colored: 3.3 oz








    Yellowish colored: 3.4 oz






    A follow up question would be, how different is between original Chanel PM vs. the Concentree ?
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    Default Re: Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    Hasupk, judging from your wardrobe, I would suggest buying both...LOL

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    Default Re: Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    I've never seen that green version before, only the typical gold-colored juice.

    Strawberrynet's overpriced anyway.
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    abc1234: I believe the difference in color between those two bottles is a photographic illusion. Chanel PM (1955) is a very slightly yellowish green (more green than yellow). The concentree is more yellow than green.

    My 2 cents worth: I like both PM (original) and Eau Sauvage. In fact, I'm wearing both today (well, mostly PM, but I put a spritz of ES on one arm for comparison). After 6 hours, I can still detect PM if I sniff close to the skin; the ES walked out the door after just a few hours. However, I agree with others who've said that you should accept these fragrances as exemplars of their type and not whine about them not having the longevity of an EdP oriental. Sure, the PM Concentree lasts longer, but it smells different too - it's nice, to be sure, but it's not as fresh and uplifting as the original, IMO. In any event, the relative merits of PM and PMC have been debated ad nauseum for as long as I've been a Basenoter.

    If (or more likely, when) I whittle my collection down to 10 fragrances that I'll wear until they plug me in the ground, Chanel PM and Eau Sauvage will both be on the list.
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    Default Re: Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    They're both good so there'd be no mistake if you got the "wrong" one. But of the two I'd take Eau Sauvage myself.
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    I can't really speak on the Chanel, but as for the Eau Sauvage...it pretty much sucks. I don't get the hype with this fragrance. It does nothing for me.

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    Default Re: Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    Quote Originally Posted by Snafoo View Post
    abc1234: I believe the difference in color between those two bottles is a photographic illusion. Chanel PM (1955) is a very slightly yellowish green (more green than yellow). The concentree is more yellow than green.
    .......
    If (or more likely, when) I whittle my collection down to 10 fragrances that I'll wear until they plug me in the ground, Chanel PM and Eau Sauvage will both be on the list.
    Thanks Snafoo! I have a sample of PMC and like it a lot. It indeed smells very much like Tiffany for Men. Which triggers my interest in PM the original version. I've ordered a sample of PM last night from TPC, so we will see.

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    Default Re: Dior Eau Sauvage or Chanel Pour Monsieur?

    Thank you guys and gals for the comments and feedback. Today i bought Chanel PM. It was not cheap but i really feel it was worth it. I really enjoy this frag. Initially the top notes were a little "old" to my nose but about 30 mins later PM's real character came through and it was just awesome. 4 sprays (three to neck and one to wrist) lasted about 7-8 hours.Surprisingly it lasted longer than Gucci By Gucci Pour Homme..lol. I wish there were more modern frags like this rather than the usual crap being churned out.

    Btw...does anyone get a slight sweetness in the drydown during the last few hours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abc1234 View Post
    I have a sample of PMC and like it a lot. It indeed smells very much like Tiffany for Men.
    Yes. I'm not sure I could tell them apart, but I haven't tried them side-by-side.

    Quote Originally Posted by abc1234 View Post
    Which triggers my interest in PM the original version. I've ordered a sample of PM last night from TPC, so we will see.
    I'm curious if you'll think the original is similar. By most reports it's not, but I haven't smelled it myself.
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