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    Default black, Black, BLACK!!!!! is there a pattern?

    So right now the running joke of the perfume industry is naming a new fragrance "Black" whether or not it has to do with the lack of color (or all the colors depending on your pov). But I have to admit, with each new "Black" fragrance, I'm equally intrigued. Will it be dark? Will it be sexy? Will it be completely off the wall? Every time I turn around there''s a new Black frag staring at me!

    For the most part, most of the Black frags I've tried resulted in something sweet, sometimes powdery. Also it seems like these Black frags are to cater to the younger wearers. But what is BLACK other than something of a buzzword to tack on the end of your perfume's name? (Stuff like Versace Black Jeans, Bulgari Black or Salvador Dali's Black Sun don't count as they don't seem to be "flankers" or something already established with "black" tagged on).

    A list of Black's I've tried.

    Roberto Cavalli Black (powdery sweet)
    Bijan Black ("Bijan" sweet)
    Ferarri Black (ambery woody)
    1881 Black (I forget, wasn't good to me)
    Black Diamond (complaints of longevity but this is a great sweet iris)
    Pierre Cardin Black (this was GREAT)
    Black XS (strawberry dust)
    Unforgivable Black (lol)
    Boss In Motion Edition Black (sweet fruity)
    Kenneth Cole Black (here's an oddball, fizzy citrus)
    Kiton Black (I forget this one, too)
    Polo Black (meh)
    Polo Double Black (was this the one that smelled like lemons and coffee?)


    Here are ones I need to try because I just have to:

    F pour Homme Black (I will order this one blind if I have to!)
    Dunhill Black (getting samples by a kind Basenoter!)
    Aigner Black (this soudns great)
    Axis Black (???)
    Mandarina Duck Pure Black (quack)
    Stetson Black (ready for testing)
    English Leather Black (sounds disgusting)

    So, what the deal with these Blacks? IS it time for a new color like Kouros Yellow?

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    WOT, no Bvlgari?

    In the early 00's they were all "Blue" releases.
    Last edited by Sorcery of Scent; 2nd March 2009 at 07:25 PM.

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    Yeah, Kouros Double Yellow. Marketing concept: hairless, well-muscled man in an impeccably tailored diaper points at the ground, triceps flexed, and implores readers of GQ to "cross the Double Yellow line." And after that it should be easy to sell the people at Bulgari on Bulgari Black Yellow, which would be shaped like a rubber urinal cake and smell roughly like a rubber urinal cake. I bet we could get bailout money for this.

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    Marketing Fashion.

    They are co-opting the cultural implications of the color (leather, quality, seriousness, hipness, etc.)

    Think about it: why does 90% of stereo & camera equipment come in black? Cuz black looks cooler, that's why. Sure, some stuff comes in silver, but let's face it: silver plastic looks cheap.

    Having said all that, I'm not really sure what smells are implied by "black". Heavy patchouli and musk, maybe? Very subjective.

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    I do have to admit that it was the most interesting trend in men's fragrances - I wonder if the reason behind it is that it makes a fragrance have a more appealing masculine feeling?

    Who real started it all? Kenneth Cole??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strollyourlobster View Post
    Yeah, Kouros Double Yellow. Marketing concept: hairless, well-muscled man in an impeccably tailored diaper points at the ground, triceps flexed, and implores readers of GQ to "cross the Double Yellow line." And after that it should be easy to sell the people at Bulgari on Bulgari Black Yellow, which would be shaped like a rubber urinal cake and smell roughly like a rubber urinal cake. I bet we could get bailout money for this.
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    Default Re: black, Black, BLACK!!!!! is there a pattern?

    Mandarina Duck Pure Black (quack) <-- LOL
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    Default Re: black, Black, BLACK!!!!! is there a pattern?

    And this is leaving out all the Noir frags, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andylama View Post
    Think about it: why does 90% of stereo & camera equipment come in black? Cuz black looks cooler, that's why. Sure, some stuff comes in silver, but let's face it: silver plastic looks cheap.
    What's funny is my mother is always looking for black electronic equipment but can never find it around here.

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    Im a big fan of Kenenth Cole Black, but I must admit there is nothing black, and the bottle/name seem very arbitrary, as if they just randomly came up with it and figured it was good enough. It's smells good enough, though. I just wish some more effort was put into the presentation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galamb_Borong View Post
    And this is leaving out all the Noir frags, too.
    Oh damn!

    ST Dupont Noir
    Serge Noire....

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    Default Re: black, Black, BLACK!!!!! is there a pattern?

    Black Label (1967) by Yardley.

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    Default Re: black, Black, BLACK!!!!! is there a pattern?

    I get a kick out of the adjective 'pure' black or whatever color. As opposed to...murky? sullied? spoiled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirSlarty View Post
    What's funny is my mother is always looking for black electronic equipment but can never find it around here.
    OK, maybe not the greatest example ever. Maybe I should have mentioned Apple/Mac and their penchant for glossy white (great computers, but they look cheap)

    When I was a kid, hi-fi gear was almost always silver (or more precisely, brushed aluminum), often with wood trim. Then in the 80s, everything turned black. Maybe the fashion has changed again. I admit that I don't follow it very closely.

    Anyway, it's all about fashion. Every field has its own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kumquat View Post
    I get a kick out of the adjective 'pure' black or whatever color. As opposed to...murky? sullied? spoiled?
    Here come the flankers...

    D&G Light Black
    Bulgari Bright Black
    Polo Quadruple Black
    Spongebob Squarepants Black
    Spinal Tap None More Black
    ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by andylama View Post
    Here come the flankers...


    Spongebob Squarepants Black

    ...maybe it will contain squid Ink?

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    You made me go here....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlynf--lsxA

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    Quote Originally Posted by castorpollux View Post
    ...maybe it will contain squid Ink?
    Excellent.

    Quote Originally Posted by SlimPickins View Post
    You made me go here....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlynf--lsxA

    "I think it looks like death."

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    Recently re-watched it, so the line was fresh in mind.

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    Can Obsession Night Very Black be far behind? (CK will probably launch it on the Winter Solstace!)


    Strollyourlobster:
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    Default Re: black, Black, BLACK!!!!! is there a pattern?

    I love that 'Spinal Tap' "Death sells" perfect. "It can't get any blacker than that".

    For all the color purists out there, black is either the absence of color as in light (subtractive theory) or all colors combined as in opaque paint (additive). This could be applied to perfume if you don't have anything else to do.

    I also like to think of SpongeBob Black containing squid ink & Bob on the box in black tie & tuxedo.

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    Default Re: black, Black, BLACK!!!!! is there a pattern?

    The only juice I have worn that actually lives up to the name "Black" is Or Black ( Morabito).

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    It's funny, Kiton Black smells like Suede. Why didn't they just call it Kiton Suede?

    Black XS could have easily been called Strawberry Rose XS.

    And don't forget "black" ingredients. What the heck is "Black Amber"?
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    Default Re: black, Black, BLACK!!!!! is there a pattern?

    Quote Originally Posted by kumquat View Post
    I love that 'Spinal Tap' "Death sells" perfect. "It can't get any blacker than that".

    For all the color purists out there, black is either the absence of color as in light (subtractive theory) or all colors combined as in opaque paint (additive). This could be applied to perfume if you don't have anything else to do.

    I also like to think of SpongeBob Black containing squid ink & Bob on the box in black tie & tuxedo.
    Actually, K, it is the other way around, if you will allow me to be picky

    Adding all visible light wavelengths together actually gives "white" in a way (aka, white light). Absence of light is not really black, it is just dark, i.e., no light energy.

    Adding all paint colors, but specifically the primaries gives mostly black, but really it is mucky and dark. Subtractive printing primaries (CMYK) allow for rather good reproduction of most colors. When white light falls on colored pigment, it reflects the wavelength which defines its color and absorbs all the others. If the same pigment is viewed under a colored light source it won't look the same. So, even subtractive mixing relies on white light!

    Anyway, tangential side tour from an optical physicist...

    I didn't really notice the black/noir naming trend, so I appreciate it being pointed out to me. It does seem like it has a wide range of associations from being classic (little black dress) to being mysterious (shrouded in shadow) or tough (black leather chaps and a bull whip).

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    Asha, I know, it's only a theory!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dynendal View Post
    What the heck is "Black Amber"?
    Amber in a black bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebor View Post
    Amber in a black bottle.
    + = ?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirSlarty View Post
    + = ?????
    Smarty pants!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebor View Post
    Smarty pants!
    Sorry, being a smartass comes naturally. Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to keep my mouth shut

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirSlarty View Post
    Sorry, being a smartass comes naturally.
    my wife says that same thing about me, but without the word "smart"
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