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    I agree with the posters above that view the article as good advice overall and second the notion that we shouldn't get too hung-up on the specific recommendations.

    Big picture: The article is attempting to help the audience understand that the distinction between masculine and feminine is market driven. For the average Joe Sixpack that's quite a bit to digest.

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    Excellent posts, Redneck! The Seuss satire was priceless, and your advice re: dissolution was pretty much spot on. I would definitely not recommend freezing fragrances for the reasons you gave, and will add one of my own: fragrance compounds with very low solubilities may be difficult to get back into solution. I don't know how many fragrance compounds fall into that category but it's not worth taking the chance, IMO. In our lab, we place bottles of precipitated solutions in an ultrasonic bath and zap them for a few minutes to get the precipitate to resolubilize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snafoo View Post
    Excellent posts, Redneck! The Seuss satire was priceless, and your advice re: dissolution was pretty much spot on. I would definitely not recommend freezing fragrances for the reasons you gave, and will add one of my own: fragrance compounds with very low solubilities may be difficult to get back into solution. I don't know how many fragrance compounds fall into that category but it's not worth taking the chance, IMO. In our lab, we place bottles of precipitated solutions in an ultrasonic bath and zap them for a few minutes to get the precipitate to resolubilize.
    Thanks, Snaf! And definitely one more excellent reason not to freeze. Normally I like to test things with experiment, but I really don't want to freeze my frags and then see which ones have trouble redissolving! Personally, I just don't think the extra few degrees would be worth it.

    And I just thought of something else - changed concentrations. As some components freeze out, others become concentrated in the liquid. It's not inconceivable that this might change the available chemistry - say of some minor components that are more stable when dilute, or which might react more readily when almost neat, or in the solid state.

    Best to let sleeping dogs lie!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    As far as what frug said of frags in the fridge,
    I thinked and I thanked and I thought I'd abridge,
    But a bee in my bonnet and a Burr in my sock
    Made me mirthful and merry myself then to mock.

    So I bought every Bond, every Bois, every Blanche,
    Every fabulous flanker and limited launch,
    'Till a fridge overflowing with fragrance I found,
    And methought that I might in their boxes be drowned.

    Then a dog in a Derby drove up in the drive,
    With a knapsack of niche that had missed Chandler's five.
    "We best be a-coolin' it off" he did say,
    And my inner neat-freak said that it was OK.

    So we artfully added the niche to the stack,
    By hammering bottles into every crack.
    Then we fired up the fridge and the freezer on full,
    And onto our cold paws did our mittens we pull.

    Seventy! Sixty! The temperature dropped
    As we fought to preserve all the flankers that flopped.
    Fifty-five! Forty-five! Downward by ten,
    And the derbified doggie's cold breath I saw then.

    "I've got an idea!" he said in a rhyme,
    "At absolute zero they'll last for all time!"
    So we hijacked a tanker of liquid N2.
    And we sprayed down our juice 'till the bottles turned blue.

    While the wetness of water was a worry, no doubt
    Condensation of oxygen carries more clout.
    If I ventured a guess at the cause of the boom,
    'Twas the LOX and the bagels that took out the room.

    I suppose there's no need now the next part to tell
    As I thumb through GQ in my cool prison cell,
    But perhaps you'll be wiser these words then to heed
    As you ponder the possible freezing of Creed.

    You can freeze all your frags or a fabulous few
    And the chem of the cooling is working for you,
    But the physics of freezing your frags is a flop.
    Don't let doggies in Derbies make you lose a drop.

    We do need a basenotes yearbook collecting the best contributions (I'm sure Oxford University Press will be interested) and this needs to be in there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    Actually, I don't think it is, technically (we're not supposed to do a verbatim on copyrighted material here at BN) but given that this article is not available as an online link, I'm hoping that Grant and Chandler will give us a pass. I blogged about this feature last night, and (erring on the safe side of copyright and blogger decorum) I held back on quoting what I thought was Burr's best stuff.

    Let's see what the powers that be say. Personally, I think it's a great feature, too, and I'm glad you posted it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lian View Post
    And I don't know if it's allowed to be on here with copyright, but I appreciate the effort of typing it over.
    Hoping it's ok then. At least it's sparked some discussion If it's not ok to have posted it, then I apologise.

    My 2c - The fragrances he recommends are interesting to me. I love Dior Homme and CdG2. I used to wear Happy all the time - great for everyday, and I think that's the point of the recommendation. I wouldn't wear Light Blue for Women (because I can't bear the people I've associated it with), but it's interesting to see "women's" fragrances being blatantly recommended to guys. I just wish there was something like this article in the UK press!

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    Thanks for the article.. might be usefull for my blog. Though, not really that new to me.
    unico grande amore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    As far as what frug said of frags in the fridge,
    I thinked and I thanked and I thought I'd abridge,
    But a bee in my bonnet and a Burr in my sock
    Made me mirthful and merry myself then to mock.

    So I bought every Bond, every Bois, every Blanche,
    Every fabulous flanker and limited launch,
    'Till a fridge overflowing with fragrance I found,
    And methought that I might in their boxes be drowned.

    Then a dog in a Derby drove up in the drive,
    With a knapsack of niche that had missed Chandler's five.
    "We best be a-coolin' it off" he did say,
    And my inner neat-freak said that it was OK.

    So we artfully added the niche to the stack,
    By hammering bottles into every crack.
    Then we fired up the fridge and the freezer on full,
    And onto our cold paws did our mittens we pull.

    Seventy! Sixty! The temperature dropped
    As we fought to preserve all the flankers that flopped.
    Fifty-five! Forty-five! Downward by ten,
    And the derbified doggie's cold breath I saw then.

    "I've got an idea!" he said in a rhyme,
    "At absolute zero they'll last for all time!"
    So we hijacked a tanker of liquid N2.
    And we sprayed down our juice 'till the bottles turned blue.

    While the wetness of water was a worry, no doubt
    Condensation of oxygen carries more clout.
    If I ventured a guess at the cause of the boom,
    'Twas the LOX and the bagels that took out the room.

    I suppose there's no need now the next part to tell
    As I thumb through GQ in my cool prison cell,
    But perhaps you'll be wiser these words then to heed
    As you ponder the possible freezing of Creed.

    You can freeze all your frags or a fabulous few
    And the chem of the cooling is working for you,
    But the physics of freezing your frags is a flop.
    Don't let doggies in Derbies make you lose a drop.


    Belly shaking, tears rolling down my face! I could even see the Seussesqe creatures madly at work. And a physics lesson to boot.

    Kudos for "Blanche/launch"

    "So we artfully added the niche to the stack,
    By hammering bottles into every crack."

    "If I ventured a guess at the cause of the boom,
    'Twas the LOX and the bagels that took out the room."

    LOL

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    Truly inspired!
    BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    As far as what frug said of frags in the fridge,
    I thinked and I thanked and I thought I'd abridge,
    But a bee in my bonnet and a Burr in my sock
    Made me mirthful and merry myself then to mock.

    So I bought every Bond, every Bois, every Blanche,
    Every fabulous flanker and limited launch,
    'Till a fridge overflowing with fragrance I found,
    And methought that I might in their boxes be drowned.

    Then a dog in a Derby drove up in the drive,
    With a knapsack of niche that had missed Chandler's five.
    "We best be a-coolin' it off" he did say,
    And my inner neat-freak said that it was OK.

    So we artfully added the niche to the stack,
    By hammering bottles into every crack.
    Then we fired up the fridge and the freezer on full,
    And onto our cold paws did our mittens we pull.

    Seventy! Sixty! The temperature dropped
    As we fought to preserve all the flankers that flopped.
    Fifty-five! Forty-five! Downward by ten,
    And the derbified doggie's cold breath I saw then.

    "I've got an idea!" he said in a rhyme,
    "At absolute zero they'll last for all time!"
    So we hijacked a tanker of liquid N2.
    And we sprayed down our juice 'till the bottles turned blue.

    While the wetness of water was a worry, no doubt
    Condensation of oxygen carries more clout.
    If I ventured a guess at the cause of the boom,
    'Twas the LOX and the bagels that took out the room.

    I suppose there's no need now the next part to tell
    As I thumb through GQ in my cool prison cell,
    But perhaps you'll be wiser these words then to heed
    As you ponder the possible freezing of Creed.

    You can freeze all your frags or a fabulous few
    And the chem of the cooling is working for you,
    But the physics of freezing your frags is a flop.
    Don't let doggies in Derbies make you lose a drop.


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    Great work RP, good laugh studying for this exam :-p

    But anyway, deep down guy (if not on the surface), you know Burr is likely receiving some kickback for mentioning their frags in an article found in GQ. Come onnnnnn.

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    "You and every other American male have been programmed by marketers to think cologne is for men and perfume is for women."
    I guess US Basenoters are best placed to comment -
    -Were you brainwashed?
    -If so, at what stage in the process were you broken?
    -Did you go home, throw your perfume bottles out, and denounce all your buddies who still held on to theirs?
    -After the brainwashing process, what did you make of all those European EDT scents being sold - which plainly weren't labelled as either perfume or cologne?


    "Anyone who knows anything about scent (that's you now) knows that dividing fragrances in "masculines" and "feminines", as the industry does, is just a marketing device to give straight American guys psychological permission to wear them (which European and gay guys don't need)."
    - Are you US guys cringeing from an inferiority complex yet? Now that you've been told that you're not as sophisticated as your wordly European peers?
    - And did anyone tell the guys in Europe about this? My experience is only limited to six European countries, but when I was over there, I mainly saw males testing out male scents in the male fragrance section.


    "Authentic houses don't gender their highest-end scents: Tom Ford's Private Blend, the Hermessence collection, Chanel's Les Exclusifs, Armani Privé."
    Which means that houses that do gender their highest-end scents, like say Dior and Chanel, just aren't authentic - correct?


    "Steer clear of anything that reads "Dad," stamps an invisible date on you (1986, say), or suggest you want to start a harem."
    and
    "Tom Ford Extreme Tom Ford
    Here's a "men's" fragrance that's awesome on every level. It's recognizably male without being a cliche
    "
    Curiouser and curiouser.

    After railing at the notion that there is any masculine and feminine difference between scents, and telling you that you are brainwashed for thinking so (i.e. you must have a weak and feeble mind), well - the writer goes on to describe a whole bunch of scents as being masculine, and that all but the most expensive one should be avoided (i.e. throw out your Paco Rabanne and Aramis everybody).

    And what scents suggest that you want to start a harem? Some of the supposedly non existent "masculine" ones perhaps?
    And what does the writer have against harems anyway - is he anti-islamic? Or anti-something else?

    In my opinion, the writer seems grossly inconsistent and contradictory. I rate the article very poorly.
    Renato
    Last edited by Renato; 16th March 2009 at 02:28 PM.

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    Thanks for posting!

    Hopefully enough people read it to tear down the blinding barrier that is the masculin/feminine dicotomy that is made up by marketing departments of corporate America.

    Also, I hope the article opened some eyes to the niche houses out there. I'd like to smell more people wearing something other than designer scents!

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    The storage question has been done to death many times here in BN. See here and here, for example.

    I keep my fragrances in the refrigerator in their original box (if possible), and that box is kept in an individually sealed freezer bag. Fragrances which have removable atomizers are stored with the original screw top, if available. When I want to wear the fragrance, I remove the freezer bag from the refrigerator and allow the fragrance to come up to room temperature over a few hours. This prevents water condensation within the bottle if it were sprayed while the contents were cold, since the air passing through the atomizer to replace the fragrance during a spray would be room temperature, and therefore carrying too much water vapor for the temperature within the interior of the bottle.

    I decant enough to wear for a week, and then place the rest back in the refrigerator in the freezer bag. Refrigeration of the bottle reduces the vapor pressure of the component oils and also reduces the rate of oxidation, as does shielding the bottle from light. I use the freezer bags in order to keep any top notes escaping through the atomizer top in some semblance of equilibrium with the air around the bottle. A better solution would use something like a Mason jar or even Parafilm around the bottle top (which is the standard laboratory technique often used for environmentally isolating samples).

    The idea that frequent temperature changes, in and of themselves, damage a fragrance is simply wrong. The time scale over which chemical reactions occur is much faster than the time scale over which a bottle warms up and cools down. As far as temperature goes, the only things that matter from the standpoint of chemical reactivity are (1) what is the temperature of the liquid, and (2) how long was the liquid at that temperature. These two factors govern how far chemical degradation is able to proceed.

    Snafoo is correct that freezing can cause some higher-molecular weight oils to congeal and not want to go back into solution. Fragrances sensitive to this can be determined on a case-by-case basis. Empirically, I have not found mere refrigeration to cause this problem very often.

    My own technique of storage would be overkill for anyone who plans on depleting their bottle within a couple of years or so. My collection is large enough that I want the bottles to last for several years. Those of you who disagree with the idea that refrigeration helps preserve fragrances are welcome to try to convince myself and the rest of the scientific world that the Arrhenius Equation is wrong. Good luck with that.
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    Thanks for the scientific input Astaroth. For me the worry is always how much light will affect my perfume and on what timescale. My fragrances are now placed in a shadowy corner of the room. There is no direct sunlight on it ever, nor is the room itself very bright. It's not pitch black either but dim I guess. I plan to use my perfumes within a few years. I might start to box some away depending on the seasons maybe.
    But once you get locked into a serious perfume collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can.
    Currently wearing: L by Lolita Lempicka

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lian View Post
    Thanks for the scientific input Astaroth. For me the worry is always how much light will affect my perfume and on what timescale. My fragrances are now placed in a shadowy corner of the room. There is no direct sunlight on it ever, nor is the room itself very bright. It's not pitch black either but dim I guess. I plan to use my perfumes within a few years. I might start to box some away depending on the seasons maybe.
    Light has the effect of both heating the fragrance and causing excited electronic states in the component molecules. As an example, many of the oil molecules in fragrances have carbon-carbon double bonds which can absorb light and create free radicals. These can cause the molecules to either oxidize or bond together chemically (polymerize), slowly ruining the fragrance. My own opinion is that fragrances should be kept in opaque containers, but you'll have to balance this against being able to see the beauty of the bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GourmandHomme View Post
    I'm not a fan of JC Ellena's work but I like the quote by Ellena
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    As Hermes perfumer Jean-Claude Ellena puts it "Scent is art. Is there a painting only for women? A symphony for men?"
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    I am paging Renato and other BNers who think scents are classifiable as either masculine or feminine to comment. :P
    ============
    Although re Jardin sur le Nil, I say it's a unisex perfume that can be hated equally by both sexes!
    Clothes (fashion) can be an art too....there are clothes designed just for men....and clothes designed just for women in mind.......even men's jeans are quite different than women's jeans.....

    But I'm sure you wear women's clothes, right? You are not a victim of marketing, are you?

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    Just a note as a ChemE. I'm not sure what's condensing inside your bottles, but simply assuming it's water is terribly stupid. You'd need to know where the dew point is on the P/T diagram for that specific substance, and seeing as they're all dissolved together it's terribly hard to see how it'll interact. If anything it's probably alcohol condensing from the gas phase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_good_life View Post
    the worst Hermes, and emblematic synthetic trash (Light Blue)
    it was for making example that MEN can wear WOMEN frags
    i didnt take it as example to follow :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    ...And what scents suggest that you want to start a harem? Some of the supposedly non existent "masculine" ones perhaps? And what does the writer have against harems anyway - is he anti-islamic? Or anti-something else?

    In my opinion, the writer seems grossly inconsistent and contradictory. I rate the article very poorly.
    Renato
    I share your summary, but I am not surprised. Inconsistencies and contradictory statements already turned 'The Perfect Scent' into fragments and clips from the fashion world. If I had more time, I would like to add a couple of question marks to the continued reference to colognes as objet's d'art. High aspirations...but 'Happy for Men' as an example?
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    Re refrigeration, I store my main bottles of perfumes in the fridge. However, I also decant about 20 ml of my regular rotation perfumes into 50 ml glass spray bottles. They are kept in the cold/dark drawer in the bathroom and these are the bottles that get regularly used and then replenished when empty.

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    Don't take it so seriously Renato, he's just trying to open the broad male population that reads GQ to try some perfumes, even though they're not labeled masculine. Chillllll.

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    So, what exactly is Burr's crime? Bad taste, or getting paid for his opinions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andylama View Post
    So, what exactly is Burr's crime? Bad taste, or getting paid for his opinions?
    It certainly cannot be the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindbrain View Post
    Clothes (fashion) can be an art too....there are clothes designed just for men....and clothes designed just for women in mind.......even men's jeans are quite different than women's jeans.....

    But I'm sure you wear women's clothes, right? You are not a victim of marketing, are you?
    How about guys wearing skinny jeans? Or women wearing blazers (inspired obviously by Chanel suits). Note: I don't wear skinny jeans because I know straight-legs work best on me.

    The reason I don't wear a women's Chanel suit and what I wear (slim fit, spread collar tailored shirt, and slim-fit tailored English-style suits) is because they look great by showing off my body in its best light and silhouette. Not too many women have a slim frame and broad shoulders (and I'm not a bodybuilder)!

    One time, I laughed at myself because I was looking at a dress shirt because the way it was cut was how I imagine one of my dress shirts should be - except that 1) the sleeves were too short (critical flaw). 2) The fact that it was a woman's dress shirt did not even cross my mind at first.

    With perfumes, it's about smelling good. With clothes, it's all about fit, fit, fit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by albumleaf View Post
    Just a note as a ChemE. I'm not sure what's condensing inside your bottles, but simply assuming it's water is terribly stupid. You'd need to know where the dew point is on the P/T diagram for that specific substance, and seeing as they're all dissolved together it's terribly hard to see how it'll interact. If anything it's probably alcohol condensing from the gas phase.
    I was tacitly assuming the condensation described by AromiErotici came from whatever was replacing the fragrance within the cold atomizer during spraying, and that this is what he was concerned about. The liquid coming out through the top of the atomizer will just have nearly the same composition as the rest of the cold fragrance. It's very unlikely that there is alcohol condensing within the cold bottle after a spray, since prior to the spray the alcohol in the gas phase was in equilibrium with the alcohol in the liquid phase. After the spray, air entering the atomizer has reduced the concentration of alcohol in the gaseous phase. By Raoult's Law, more alcohol will then leave solution and go into the gaseous phase until equilibrium is achieved again. The same argument can be applied to the other fragrance components.

    And if you're seeing condensation on the outside of the cold bottle from the air touching it, that same air entering the bottle after a spray will be condensing water into the fragrance solution as well, since the air is obviously supersaturated at that low temperature. As a quick example, it is currently 75°F here in West Los Angeles (a desert climate, incidentally), with a relative humidity of 33%. That means the air is holding 7.17 gm/m^3 of water vapor. But refrigerated air at 41°F can hold only 6.8 gm/m^3 of water vapor. So it's likely the only thing condensing in the cold bottle after spraying is water. I seriously doubt that the fact that ethanol and water form an azeotrope, or that there are other intermolecular bonding relationships in the bottle, is causing a sufficiently strong deviation from Raoult's Law that water is prevented from condensing.

    In any case, it's best to allow the bottle to come up to room temperature prior to spraying, although I'm not entirely sure it will make much of a difference. There will always be some water in the fragrance anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokkou View Post
    Don't take it so seriously Renato, he's just trying to open the broad male population that reads GQ to try some perfumes, even though they're not labeled masculine. Chillllll.
    We're both relatively new here on BN but I note there are some BNers here who believe fragrances are like the start of American junior high (7th grade) dances: all the boys sit on one side of the room and the girls in another, and that they're not supposed to meet each other halfway.

    There is another BNer in this thread whom I have crossed swords in the past about the feminine vs masculine perfume debate. You know who you are.

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    I don't wear fragrances sold for women typically because I don't like how they smell on me, not because of some stigma I have against them.

    For example, everything I like about Light Blue, I can get from Cool Water in something that just smells better to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astaroth View Post
    I'm hoping we don't push far enough into this to start talking about azeotropic mixtures.
    Leave azeotropes out of this! Just because some molecules want to wear other molecules, it doesn't mean we should. Or something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokkou View Post
    Don't take it so seriously Renato, he's just trying to open the broad male population that reads GQ to try some perfumes, even though they're not labeled masculine. Chillllll.
    If that was all he said, I wouldn't have rated his article so poorly.
    But that wasn't what he said.

    I'd summarise it as follows,

    1. There are no masculine and feminine scents.
    2. But if you do wear scents have some style, don't be unsophisticated like you are now, and make sure you stick to using either the unisex ones,
    or the more masculine unisex ones (Happy), or feminine scents and or the more feminine unisex ones.
    3. DO NOT wear very masculine scents (even though they don't exist), but if you really must, make sure you stick to the more expensive
    high end ones (Tom Ford Extreme).

    I recollect seeing pretty near the same content in other magazine articles posted here in the past, which were usually written by female writers.

    I don't read the Female Fragrance Discussion board much, but I wonder if they ever find and post the equivalent articles? That is, telling them to
    avoid the really feminine scents and to start using unisex or male scents, if they don't want to be unsophisticated.

    Renato
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    Quote Originally Posted by narcus View Post
    I share your summary, but I am not surprised. Inconsistencies and contradictory statements already turned 'The Perfect Scent' into fragments and clips from the fashion world. If I had more time, I would like to add a couple of question marks to the continued reference to colognes as objet's d'art. High aspirations...but 'Happy for Men' as an example?
    I'm glad I'm not the only one to spot the inconsistencies in the article.
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    I think you need to lighten up, Renato. This is no scientific article nor does it have any aspirations of winning the Pulitzer prize. It's targeted at GQ readers that want a bit of quick info and I for one believe that this article might just help educate them a bit on fragrance.
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