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    Default Name a "Modern Classic"

    I have been thinking about this for a while. In many reviews by us Basenoters, and even by Turn, Burr and others, we see the term "classic fragrance." There could be lots of discussion as to which ones we're talking about - Aramis, Grey Flannel, something by Chanel, something by Guerlain, this one or that one. And even though we may not even like that particular fragrance, often times we can still appreciate it for it's timelessness and being a "classic."

    My question is this. Is there anything being rolled out and produced today ( within past couple of years or so), that you think 20 years down the road, the new crop of Basenoters will also refer to as classic?

    One more point to consider - and that is exactly how to define classic. Seems to me that many, if not most, of what we discuss being classic, is stuff that my dad wore (as in the above mentioned frags.). That means those scents were widely available and distributed widely. Today, so many of us are plugged in to all things fragrance - but really, so much of what we wear is niche, and not widely available or well known to the rest of the world. So could a fragrance from Creed, Serge Lutens, L'Artisan, Montale, etc., etc. ever really garner the term "classic" - even though in our minds (and noses) one or many of them could and would certainly be worthy?

    Sorry for the ramble.......

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    Thierry Mugler's Angel and A Men both a classics and defined a whole new fragrance category.

    In addition you can add Gaultier's Classique and Le Male. Both Mugler's and Gaultier's scents will be around for years to come.

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    That's a really good question.

    Unfortunately, there's been such a dearth of really fine fragrances over the last couple of years ( at least for me) that I honestly can't think of any.

    But, as I'm in an "acquisition" mode these days, I'm anxious to read other people's thoughts. Maybe there's a newly released future classic that I need to check out!

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    Dior Homme
    Terre d'Hermes

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    AdG will definitely be on that list, regardless of what anyone says. It's been on the best seller lists for YEARS now, and has become so much so that it (at least where I live) has come to defy an entire ethnic group of people. I'm sure there will be a Ck or two on that list (possibly eternity, definitely CKone), and maybe cool water. Le male and A*men will have their fans down the road (though they were never my style), as will most certainly Happy and Fahrenheit. I could see 212 making it on there, as well as a couple Nautica's and maybe an adidas. GIT will be the most popular creed (still), with SMW and MI coming in at close seconds (though neither will match the ubiquity of the designers). Azzaro's chrome will likely have a spot as well. Armani mania/code will be remembered, and people will most certainly joke about AXE sprays. Hugo boss will see some of their scents retain popularity, and burberry will be around for a while. Abercrombie's fierce will see that same popularity that wood's did when it was finally discontinued, and of course, CURVE. Dior homme, be delicious, and light blue as well. I think it's a bit early to tell with the releases of the past couple years, but i definitely wouldn't mind seeing Bulgari's aqua and YSL's l'homme around.

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    The two I immediately thought of were...

    Terre d'Hermes
    L'Instant PH

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    I'll have to agree with TdH, L'Instant and Dior Homme.

    The scent grows richer, he knows he must be near
    He finds a long passageway lit by chandelier
    Each step he takes, the perfumes change
    From familiar fragrance to flavours strange
    A magnificent chamber meets his eye

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    For the life of me I just do not understand Terre d'Hermes, but I guess that is what makes us all so diffrent.

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    scentimus, I am with you, I do not get all the fuzz about it, I swapped mine-
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    AdG will probably be considered a 'classic' - but for ruining perfumery, not for it's 'excellence'. It's commercial popularity started a 'race to the bottom' among houses to appeal to the mass public with unimaginative, citrus/aquatics. I can't think of any AdG followers that are classics in any way. But I digress....

    There are many good fragrance, but in my mind a 'modern classic' is something that has been accepted widely by people know fragrances. It also helps if the fragrance either set some new standard or re-invented an old one. I'd also have to assume a modern classic is something that will remain on the market for a long time.

    I would agree with Terre d'Hermes and Dior Homme absolutely.

    CdG Hinoki because it re-defined what a realistic wood fragrance smells like.

    Guerlain Cologne du 68 because it defines the direction Guerlain has taken this decade, and perhaps Guerlain SDV for being one of the most audacious vanillas.

    I'm not sure exactly why, but I see Malle's Vetiver Extraordinaire as a 'modern classic' - perhaps because it's such a bold vetiver.

    Again, not exactly sure why, but I see Dior Bois d'Argent as either being a classic or becoming a cult-favorite, which I think it is already.

    There are more.... I'll have to report back....

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    I wouldn't necessarily say that a scent such as... Cool Water, for example, would be considered a classic simply because it sold a lot, any more than I would consider the Ford Escort to be a classic car for being one of the best sellers of its time.

    I think, ultimately, to determine what a classic may be, one has to look forward 30-50 years and think about what scents will be remembered and which won't, for whatever reasons. (What scents will your grandchildren be touting as the Caron Tabac Blond or whatever of this generation).

    The problem here is, unfortunately, there's soooooooooo many new releases occurring on a yearly basis now, that they all tend to blend into the same forgettable mass of blandness.

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    IMO, Green Irish Tweed will stand the test of time. But, personally, I can't stand the smell of it.

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    Escada pour Homme will be a cult classic I think.

    I would also tip a nod in the direction of Gucci Homme 1. You could also put a case forward for Calvin Klein Eternity quite reasonably I feel.

    I agree with Dior Homme and Terre too.
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    Ditto TdH & Dior Homme (no-brainer). As much as it pains us basenoters we'd have to consider AdG and Le Male simply on the basis of their commercial success.

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    I would add Platinum Egoiste and Egoiste to that list too I think. I know it's popular to laud Egoiste above it's younger brother, but although I love both I favour the Platinum version for just making me feel like a million bucks when I'm wearing it.
    In a world where people smell bad, it is the personal responsibility of every Basenoter to improve the world one SotD at a time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jathanas View Post
    Ditto TdH & Dior Homme (no-brainer). As much as it pains us basenoters we'd have to consider AdG and Le Male simply on the basis of their commercial success.
    I hate both AdG and Le Male.... ugh.
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    YAY! I get to be the first one to say Rive Gauche pour homme! Wow, I can't believe it hasn't been mentioned. That's the first thing that came to mind. Next was Dior Homme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scentimus View Post
    For the life of me I just do not understand Terre d'Hermes, but I guess that is what makes us all so diffrent.
    i'm with you. terre d'hermes smells like an industrial strength cleaner

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    I agree with most of the above posts...I would add M7. Like nothing else. Also Issey Miyake.

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    Terre d'Hermes, Dior Homme for sure.

    Heritage (1992) is a classic to me as well.

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    i agree with issey miyake.

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    also, i'm going to have to disagree with dior homme too. I can smell it a mile away because it's so cloying to me. That said, I never smell it because i don't think a lot of people actually wear it that much. I smell a lot more AdG and light blue. i vote no on dior homme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharkface View Post
    also, i'm going to have to disagree with dior homme too. I can smell it a mile away because it's so cloying to me. That said, I never smell it because i don't think a lot of people actually wear it that much. I smell a lot more AdG and light blue. i vote no on dior homme.
    Uh-Oh. Them's fightin words in this community...there are more lovers than haters here. I don't adore it as much as many others, but the dry-down is amazing. Once the make-up bag melts off your skin, the base is very warm and classy. It has a creamy texture that leaves it in a class of its own. I think that it will stand the test of time with any of the rest. Just like Kouros is still sold 25 years later, Dior Homme will have a similar cult following. It will always be in my wardrobe..

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    Default Re: Name a "Modern Classic"

    The face someone doesn't personally like a fragrance doesn't prevent it from being a classic... it requires one to intellectually separate the two concepts to acknowledge the quality of a fragrance they don't personally like. I don't like GIT/Cool Water, but I can acknowledge that they are classics.

    Ultimately it's all just semantics as some fragrances will stand the test of time and others won't.

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    L'Anarchiste

    Malle's Musc Ravageur

    Keihl's Musk

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    What say you about Amouage Jubilation XXV? I think the women's version is top notch.

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    Acqua di Gio (Armani) - one of my all-time favorites. And I'm not a 20-something club boy either.

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    It's tempting to simply name one's favorites, but that's not the name of the game. Herewith my nominations, in no particular order, taking into consideration innovation, quality, and broad and enduring acclaim...

    Fahrenheit
    L'Eau D'Issey pour Homme
    Platinum Egoiste
    Chanel Pour Monsieur Concentree
    Dior Homme
    Tiffany For Men

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    Zino Davidoff Cool Water
    Currently wearing: Royal Mayfair by Creed

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