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    Default Perfumes the Spring Guide out - Interesting men's ratings...

    Aramis 900 - 4 stars - thought it would get 5 based on Aromatic Elixirs getting 5. He also classifies it as "Floral Oriental" which I don't get the Oriental aspect. Closer to a chypre IMHO as it's devoid of sweet notes like amber and vanilla.

    DKNY Men 3 stars- really? 1 at best
    Versace PH 1 star - spot on.
    Montale Oud Cuir d'Arabie - 5 stars - need to get a sample of this one.
    Montale Black Out - 4 stars - think he gets this one correct.

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    Very interesting. Were those the only two Montales they reviewed, because I am real excited about hearing their opinions on the line. I am also surprised with the one star for Versace PH, with all the love it gets here on BN, and that fact that IMO it is a welcome change in the designer "aquatic" world, I thought it would get a far better rating.

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    I just bought it and read it... good stuff! There are a few that I'll have to add to my sample list now.

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    I was extremely shocked at the 3 stars that Habit Rouge Sport got. I really expected less than this.

    It's nice to see Black Aoud got 4 stars (and Oud Cuir d'Arabie got 5).

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    I was shocked at all the bad marks for Profumum.
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    Yes, I'm genuinely suprised. Thought he would slate montale. I agree with him about aoud damascus (**). Notably, he doesn't point at the oud as being synthetic which further backs the "cultivated oud" theory which montale claimed and I thought plausible. Many prominent montales still missing though: attar, aoud lime, royal etc. Maybe montale will "remember" to send them some samples now they have achieved a **** and a masterpiece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arwen_elf View Post
    I was shocked at all the bad marks for Profumum.
    How bout the (well deserved!) fabulous marks for Histoires des Parfums? It just made me want them more.

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    Honnestly I love Montale but Oud Cuir d'A. is absolutely repulsive.

    Can't even smell it , and I would definitely not imagine anyone wear it...

    But I have to admit I admire it and respect it, just way too harsh and skanky and ... awful for me to wear it ever.
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    Ambre Gris gets 2 stars as "fake sandalwood." Can someone explain to me how an amber frag is pretending to be sandalwood? It's an odd frag that is probably "love it or hate" mostly, but this sandalwood claim puzzles me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roc_Xel View Post
    Honnestly I love Montale but Oud Cuir d'A. is absolutely repulsive.

    Can't even smell it , and I would definitely not imagine anyone wear it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roc_Xel View Post
    Honnestly I love Montale but Oud Cuir d'A. is absolutely repulsive.

    Can't even smell it , and I would definitely not imagine anyone wear it...

    But I have to admit I admire it and respect it, just way too harsh and skanky and ... awful for me to wear it ever.
    Ha ha, I once wore it to go out to the pub and had to go home again quickly as I couldn't bear to be smelled like that.
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    Thanks Manicboy for providing the ratings (especially useful to read for those who don't subscribe to the guide). Always interesting to read what Turin has to said about some of these yet-to-try frags. Hmm... will be looking at purchasing Aramis 900 soon.

    What about some of the women's frag. Any interesting ratings to share? Thanks.

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    I'm also glad that Turin didn't go into attack mode with Montale.
    I totally agree with their reviews of La Petite Robe Noire, Nuits de Cellophane, Aramis 900, Brooklyn, Eau Lente, Luxe Patchouli, Prelude to Love, Sables and Blue Amber.
    Forget about Profumum, his repeated dismissals of Penhaligons cheap ingredients will certainly have many a Basenoter up in arms.
    Finally a big thanks to TS/LT for taking my suggestion and reviewing Anne Pliska, I'm glad you gave it ****.
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    Welcome Profumum and Penhaligons to the hallowed LT/TS hall of disregard; fellow members include Caron, Creed and Lorenzo Villoresi.
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    DKNY Men getting 3 seems fair to me, so far it's my favorite designer release of the year.
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    Have they reviewed Kenzo Power yet? If so, what did it get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMF View Post
    Have they reviewed Kenzo Power yet? If so, what did it get?
    I think you discovered an MIA fragrance. I checked the K's, and between Poopoo Pidou and Prelude to Love. No found!
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    Oddly, I found myself agreeing with Turin and Sanchez far more frequently in this batch of reviews than on any of their past outings. Notably:

    Black Aoud (****) and Aoud Cuir d'Arabie (*****)
    Black Tourmaline (****)
    Bois de Copaiba (***) and Querelle (**), both rather ordinary
    Carré d'As (***), boring
    Both CdG Luxe scents, boring and overpriced
    Le Dandy (***) meh
    Eau Lente (****)
    Both L'Etre Aimé scents, boring and disappointing coming from Divine
    French Lover (****)
    Idole (****)
    L'Ombre Fauve (****)
    Thundra (*)

    We still differ strongly on several points, though. To whit, I have no use for Duel or Sables, I do like Magnolia Romana and Penhaligon's English Fern, and I find both L'Eau Neuve and Lubin's Le Vetiver utterly snoozalucious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    Ambre Gris gets 2 stars as "fake sandalwood." Can someone explain to me how an amber frag is pretending to be sandalwood? It's an odd frag that is probably "love it or hate" mostly, but this sandalwood claim puzzles me.
    I am pretty sure it has artificial sandalwood, Bigsly. When I tried it, I got the same hairspray note that I get from Estee Lauder Private Collection Amber Ylang Ylang and Coty Wild Musk, both of which have a "woody" base. It is really nasty to my nose.

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    I'm sorry but after spending a winter with Mr Turin's book I find it fits a lot better in the bookcase dedicated to light fiction and general works of comedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    Ambre Gris gets 2 stars as "fake sandalwood." Can someone explain to me how an amber frag is pretending to be sandalwood? It's an odd frag that is probably "love it or hate" mostly, but this sandalwood claim puzzles me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    I think you discovered an MIA fragrance. I checked the K's, and between Poopoo Pidou and Prelude to Love. No found!
    I ask you, who heard of Poopoo Pidou before this supplement?
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    I was hoping someone would explain the review, perhaps quote a sentence. I'm sure glad I didn't get that "hairspray" note when I sampled it, because I really hate that. I don't really like it, so I'm not suggesting it deserves more than 2 stars, but I've sampled some powerful sandalwood frags lately, like Samsara, and I can't imagine Ambre Gris described as a sandalwood frag. But this means I'll have to sample it tomorrow ! LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noirwest View Post
    I'm sorry but after spending a winter with Mr Turin's book I find it fits a lot better in the bookcase dedicated to light fiction and general works of comedy.
    You're not sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    I I'm sure glad I didn't get that "hairspray" note when I sampled it, because I really hate that. I don't really like it, so I'm not suggesting it deserves more than 2 stars, but I've sampled some powerful sandalwood frags lately, like Samsara, and I can't imagine Ambre Gris described as a sandalwood frag. But this means I'll have to sample it tomorrow ! LOL.
    I find it amazing that they didn't mention the omnipresent cherry note in it.
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    synthetic sandalwood base. Cheaters. TS"
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    Quote Originally Posted by andylama View Post
    You're not sorry.

    You're right, I'm not but it seemed improper to indicate how amused I am that anyone would take the reviews contained within all that seriously. "Expert" or no it would appear that theirs is just more opinions, neither better nor worse than, say, most to be found in here.

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    Ah ok, so it seems that there was disappointment about the name of it. I thought of it as "gray amber," whereas she thought it was ambergris (and is probably right). The frag did seem to have a "gray" amber to it, but also had a very sweet accord, similar to that found in Belle en Rykiel, and I found the combination of the two accords to be dissonant in an unpleasant way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noirwest View Post
    You're right, I'm not but it seemed improper to indicate how amused I am that anyone would take the reviews contained within all that seriously. "Expert" or no it would appear that theirs is just more opinions, neither better nor worse than, say, most to be found in here.
    You know, they do have authority. They have a lot more inside information than most of us do. Turin is a chemist and has worked on developing aroma chemicals. Sanchez and Turin both have a wonderful gift for expressing clear and candid abstract ideas very succinctly, with lots of wit, to boot.
    I'm all for setting standards, but of course I don't agree with everything they say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggles View Post
    You know, they do have authority. They have a lot more inside information than most of us do. Turin is a chemist and has worked on developing aroma chemicals.
    You are correct. Unfortunately, Turins expert chemist side materializes only in his duftnote articles (void of TS's presence I assume..) , not the periodic The Guide updates ..
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    I think of them, especially LT, as a professor I'm studying under. What I found with professors I studied under in the past is that they had a lot of knowledge that I did not, but that they didn't always communicate that knowledge in a way that was accessible to someone who was at my level of understanding. Even if you asked specific questions, you might get answers that were difficult to grasp. So you did the best you could under the circumstances. When you found that they started to bore you, that was usually a sign that you had learned all you could from them.

    With fragrance, there is another factor, at least for me, and that is the shifting quality of my sense of smell. Some days a frag smells too strong and others days it's too weak. Some days I don't like a certain note in it, and other days I enjoy it. This may be related to the other frags in my rotation, or simply which frag I wore the day before. Whatever it is, I know now that I can't "trust" myself, so I can only give so much weight to the opinion of someone else, no matter who it is. I would like their reviews to be more comprehensive, but for whatever reason, they have rejected this approach, and so we can "take it or leave it." I'll take it, but I do feel at least some frustration while reading quite a few of their reviews.
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