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    Default Histories de Parfums

    Found a sale on some of these
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    Noir Patchouli
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    Longevity and something it might be similar to?

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    Huh? I'm not quite sure what you are asking. Which of these three for what? To buy?

    None of them until you sample them, as I don't think any of them are safe blind buys. The Casanova and the Marquis de Sade are sort of Lutenesque in style. They are both rich, complex and big fragrances, with the Sade being the richer and heavier of the two. The Casanova has a gourmand quality to it that I quite like and the dry down is very creamy. Both last quite a long while, the Casnova lasts at least 24hrs on my skin and the Marquis de Sade about 18.

    The Noir Patchouli is quite nice, some complain that its not a patchouli heavy scent but I think that it presents patchouli in a couple of different ways from the top notes to the dry down. I get at least 12 hrs out of this one.
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    What are the years of the second two? They are names by year, with the 'secondary' name being the historical year.

    The great reviews and the sale on the old packaging not withstanding, I just don't like HdP all that much. Ambre 114, Blanc Violette, and 1826 are great, but I don't find any of the other to be bottle worthy. The Noir Patchouli has been discussed in a few threads, and I find it to be almost primarily rose with patchouli taking a back seat. Not bad, but not worth either $90 (old packaging) or $185 (new packaging). Take note that there was a reformulation in 1826 between the old and new packaging - I don't know if any others were reformulated.

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    here are my thoughts on some of them... hopin it makes sense...

    http://community.basenotes.net/showthread.php?t=224679


    i would drop my cash for 1725 and to an extent for Noir Patchouli. 100ml is a bit too much for Noir Patch....i was hopin they release 50 ml version of their releases in general.
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    1725 Casanova
    1740 Marquis de Sade

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    Casanova is 1725 ... and Marquis de Sade is 1740 .
    I quite like all three of them, but would say that 1725 (Casanova) is the safest for a blind buy ! It is an Ambered Fougere, and the notes are : Top- Bergamot, Orange, Grapefruit, Liquorice ... Heart- Lavender and Star Anise ... Base- Vanilla, Sweet Almond, Sandalwood, Ceder, Amber.

    I thought it was a very beautifully blended fragrance , and smells very "classy".
    But their masterpiece is without a doubt Ambre 114 , which is simply a magnificent Amber with a lovely "antique" smelling quality to it.
    Hope this helps!
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    I tried the "old" version of 1826 today...hmmm...not my thing. Very fruity. Have been thinking of ordering the sample set from them directly. I've only tried George Sand (1804), which I remember being much different than how the website describes...perhaps that one was also reformulated.

    Wait...doesn't MPG also have a George Sand? Maybe I'm thinking of that one...I'm confus-ed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofresh View Post
    I tried the "old" version of 1826 today...hmmm...not my thing. Very fruity. Have been thinking of ordering the sample set from them directly. I've only tried George Sand (1804), which I remember being much different than how the website describes...perhaps that one was also reformulated.

    Wait...doesn't MPG also have a George Sand? Maybe I'm thinking of that one...I'm confus-ed.
    The old version of 1826 and the new version are day and night. A radical reformulation (for the better).
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    I think 1725 and 1740 in the older forumlations are the same as new or close. I also think either are wearable. Probably more people here like the Marquis de Sade. I think Cassanova is easier to wear. Not really fond of the Noir Patchouli on a limited wearing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scentsitivity
    The old version of 1826 and the new version are day and night. A radical reformulation (for the better).
    I agree - I love the reformulation, which has a touch of rose and a lot of patchouli right from the beginning. I bought a 20ml decant and it was the original formula, which was more of a rose musk with barely a hint of patchouli in the drydown. Not bad, but not what I wanted.

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    I love 1740 Marquis de Sade... but then, I love leather and I love immortelle, and those notes pretty much define the fragrance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galamb_Borong View Post
    I love 1740 Marquis de Sade... but then, I love leather and I love immortelle, and those notes pretty much define the fragrance.
    Like Galamb, the only one I've tried yet is 1740 and it's incredibly good for what it is - a gourmand/oriental leather.

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    Casanova is very close to Gaultier Le Male. Nicer, less shrill, but VERY close!

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    Casanova is very close to Gaultier Le Male. Nicer, less shrill, but VERY close!
    Sorry Sociablenose, I respect that perhaps (strangely) these two scents are close, to your nose ... But I just had to state , so that the original poster doesn't get the wrong idea. That they do not smell anything alike, at all. They hardly even share any notes (except for vanilla and lavender, but then so do thousands of other frags that still smell nothing alike, regardless). Vanilla, Lavender and Bergamot, are pretty much basic notes used for support). To my nose they are worlds apart, and are not close at all.
    Did you do a side by side comparison ? As I tell you, doing comparisons by memory alone is very unreliable, as your memory plays tricks on you. I have often thought a scent similar to another by memory, And when I do a side by side comparison, I'm surprised how wrong I was.
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    I really like Marquis de Sade 1740 and Noir Patchouli and feel they are both WELL worth the money (especially a 4oz bottle for $90). IMO, both have excellent sillage and longevity.

    I personally was not very fond of 1725 Casanova - I do not want to smell like marzipan.
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    Hi Finsfan ... I thought maybe I should elaborate my previous answer. 1725 which I suggested, is not actually my favorite of the lot. My fave is Marquis de Sade, as I really enjoy my "gourmands" and my "leathers"... so when they are together, even better. The reason I suggested 1725 is because I believe it the "safest" one out the three. And probably the one least likely to offend and probably liked by most. Therefor probably being the "safest" choice for a blind buy. (Which is what you asked) . As I am highly aware that not everyone enjoys sweet gourmands or leathers. But if you enjoy these qualities (notes) in a perfume, and you enjoy the smell of Immortelle and Davana, then Marquis de Sade is definitely the way to go, rather.

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    I have no idea what Davana or immortelle smell like. I do not want a 'foody' scent, but hey, my Red Vetyver smells like it might have some grapefruit in it, so that is not bad. I just dont like almond, chocolate or heavy vanilla, like Le Male. Leather can be okay

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    the note tht makes Eau Noire and Fougere Bengale the scents they are..thts Immortelle.....but then in HdP, it's quite mild...i would rather invest in Ambre Russe than M de Sade as it's quite close to skin types..and after couple of hours, lacks any depth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finsfan View Post
    I have no idea what Davana or immortelle smell like. I do not want a 'foody' scent, but hey, my Red Vetyver smells like it might have some grapefruit in it, so that is not bad. I just dont like almond, chocolate or heavy vanilla, like Le Male. Leather can be okay
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    Quote Originally Posted by finsfan View Post
    1725 Casanova
    1740 Marquis de Sade
    Just picked these up from Miomia shop for $90/each for the old bottles. Was hoping they would have 1828 discounted but it was not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sybarite View Post
    Sorry Sociablenose, I respect that perhaps (strangely) these two scents are close, to your nose ... But I just had to state , so that the original poster doesn't get the wrong idea. That they do not smell anything alike, at all. They hardly even share any notes (except for vanilla and lavender, but then so do thousands of other frags that still smell nothing alike, regardless). Vanilla, Lavender and Bergamot, are pretty much basic notes used for support). To my nose they are worlds apart, and are not close at all.
    Did you do a side by side comparison ? As I tell you, doing comparisons by memory alone is very unreliable, as your memory plays tricks on you. I have often thought a scent similar to another by memory, And when I do a side by side comparison, I'm surprised how wrong I was.
    Actually, to my nose, 1725 is closer to Cartier's Must PH and that's a great thing. Still, there's enough difference to own both.
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    Good call Manic. I am tempted to order the Sade blind as the Casanova is said to be more gourmand like marizpan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manicboy View Post
    Just picked these up from Miomia shop for $90/each for the old bottles. Was hoping they would have 1828 discounted but it was not.
    I also picked up a bottle of Casanova for $90 bucks, and like you was hoping to score 1828 at that price, but apparently it sold out rather quickly. As much as I love 1828, I just can't justify spending $185 on a bottle. I wish Histoires would release smaller sizes!

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    Casanova is a very nice lavender fragrance that is perhaps worth the $90 if you enjoy lavender. It's not worth the $185 new price to me at all. I find the 1740 one makes me a bit queazy. The only one from this house that I seriously considered was the Jules Verne one, but that was before the huge price hike. (What are they thinking?) As others have mentioned, the Amber 114 is very nice if you like ambers, but again, it's not special enough to pay $185 and have a 4 oz. bottle of, IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joxer96 View Post
    I also picked up a bottle of Casanova for $90 bucks, and like you was hoping to score 1828 at that price, but apparently it sold out rather quickly. As much as I love 1828, I just can't justify spending $185 on a bottle. I wish Histoires would release smaller sizes!
    Agree with this, both as to bottle size and 1828.
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    1740 is not gourmand in any way, and immortelle has a chocolate sort of thickness, but it's not a gourmand note either. Look like MM will finally clear out that backlog of old-label HdP bottles they've had for months and months. Too bad 1826 was reformulated.

    The greats from HdP that aren't being mentioned are Blanc Violette and Ambre 114... these are probably my two faves from the line besides the new 1826. A-114 is a high quality amber, and BV straddles the middle of a violet note that's neither too sweet or too green.

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    I'll second Ambre 114 - it's my other favorite from this line. It's a smooth, dry, intriguingly herbal amber that's kind of like a refined and much improved version of Ambre Sultan.

    As for the gourmand status, 1740 is not a gourmand at all in the dessert sense. No chocolate, vanilla or almond here. It's gourmand in a savory sense. Immortelle strikes people in odd ways, and people often describe it as smelling like "curry", but that's not totally accurate either. There's also a slight dried fruit note, like dried apricots, but it's very delicate and doesn't at all dominate the fragrance. ( I find Jenson's comparison to Ambre Russe quite accurate when it comes to this fruit note - the two are very similar that way, though the note here is much, much more quiet and subtle. )

    Because of this thread 1740 is my SotD.

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    Well, the Ambre 114 is not on sale, so it will have to be one of the three I posted on or nothing.

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    Until you try them I'd suggest you don't buy anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finsfan View Post
    Good call Manic. I am tempted to order the Sade blind as the Casanova is said to be more gourmand like marizpan.
    where is it on sale?

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