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    Default i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    Hello All,

    I've been on a search for a nice, small fragrance wardrobe that I absolutely love and is versatile enough for all situations... 4 scents or so, good for winter night/winter day, summer night/summer day, casual/formal/romantic. So far, I've tried almost every one of the most reviewed scents on Basenotes.

    I quite like a few: Versace Dreamer, L'Eau D'Issey Miyake, Dior Fahrenheit (to the point where I might buy these...)

    I find a few pleasant: Burberry Brit, Dolce & Gabbana pour homme, Cool Water, Paco Rabanne XS;

    A couple are passable: Chrome by Azzaro, CK One, Swiss Army, Acqua di Gio, Gucci pour homme, Terre d'Hermes;

    And some I would never wear at all: A*Men, Gucci Envy, Givenchy Pi.

    I have a whole bunch on the way that I'm going to try: Gucci pour homme II, YSL M7, YSL Rive Gauche, Chanel Egoiste, Chanel Platinum Egoiste, Chanel Anteaus, Sean John Unforgivable, Azzaro pour homme, Mugler Cologne, Curve.

    But above all else, I absolutely LOVE Guerlain Vetiver. Its the first cologne I've ever tried that I've really actually quite fallen in love with. The problem is, though, on asking a couple of people on their perception of it on me, they've suggested that it smells like old person. I know, I know - I should be wearing a scent for me more than for others, but it still matters to me what others think.

    Its clear that I like green scents (Fahrenheit, Vetiver), so is there anything similar to Guerlain's Vetiver that smells more contemporary? Mugler Cologne may fit that requirement. Any other suggestions would be completely appreciated. (Comments about how I shouldn't care about what other people think and how Guerlain's Vetiver is awesome and doesn't smell like old person would be appreciated as well.

    Also, if you can find any sort of pattern in my scent preferences, that would be great as well for choosing future scents to try! I think that I like green scents and fresh/aqua scents, but not heavy incense/woody scents or gourmands, but I'm not 100% sure.

    Thanks in advance. I love the forum and I'm looking forward to engaging more with the community!
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    Default Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

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    If you like aquatics try to find a sample of Heeley's Sel Marin - very good example of that style, I think.

    If you like Vetiver you could give Carlo Corinto Vetyver or Floris Vetiver a try. Floris is the more easy-going of the two scents, but I think Carlo Corinto is about to become one of my most frequently worn scents...
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    Mugler Cologne IMO is nothing close to Vetiver by Guerlain, as Mugler is like soapy citrus on steroids with a touch of vetiver. I do love Mugler Cologne though - you might really enjoy it, since it's fresh, young and sexy.

    In terms of something closer to Guerlain's Vetiver, I think that Vetiver Extraordinare might suit the job. Maybe Creed's vintage Vetiver might work too, but I haven't tried it - maybe others can fill in here and say whether it would work.
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    Default Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    My first thoughts are you should wear what you love.... I'm not sure who thinks Guerlain Vetiver smells like 'old man', but I'd bet they don't know about fragrances and are making some other association. If you like it you should enjoy it! Would you not wear your favorite shirt b/c someone else didn't like it? Probably not. Certainly many people on this forum love GV. I just read Somerville Metro Man's data threads and it was the most worn fragrance by this forum for the last year by a wide margin. Certainly this isn't a forum of all old men!

    On the other hand there's nothing wrong with discovery of new things (but don't abandon GV b/c of a couple people's comments). Fahrenheit is a great classic, you can't go wrong there. If it's the vetiver you like in GV maybe a 'fresher' vetiver, like Floris Vetiver or Anick Goutal Vetiver. Roger & Gallet makes a very fresh, lemony vetiver. There are stronger vetivers like Etro Vetiver or if you feel like spending a lot of money Chanel Sycomore is good.

    Looking at your 'likes' they are in many different genres, and what you don't like are gourmands/orientals. You probably won't like M7, but you very well may like M7 Fresh. Maybe put Chanel Allure Homme Sport and/or Edition Blanche on your 'to try' list. Other possibilities are Prada Amber Pour Homme and Prada Infusion d'Homme (both good). I'll thinnk of more, but I'm tired now.

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    Yep, if you like it, wear it!

    My suggestions for Vetiver fragrances:

    Tauer's Vetiver Dance
    Montale Red Vetyver
    Comme Des Garcons "Vetiveru"
    FM's Vetiver Extraordinaire

    As well, Mugler Cologne is fantastic. I liked it so much that I gave it to my girlfriend, and now I get to smell it way more often. (It's very unisex, in a good way.)

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    I don't like GV at all (smells like dental cement to my untrained nose), but I really like the smell of Creed Original Vetiver. Plus, you can tell your friends that Elvis and JFK wore it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adonis View Post
    I don't like GV at all (smells like dental cement to my untrained nose), but I really like the smell of Creed Original Vetiver. Plus, you can tell your friends that Elvis and JFK wore it.
    Creed Original Vetiver, hmm - that reminds me - you'll see a million arguments about Cool Water smelling like Green Irish Tweed, but there is many, many more similarities between Original Vetiver and Mugler's Cologne. It is definitely not worth the price difference. Original Vetiver is a little more leafy in the basenotes, while Cologne is more musky. However, they're essentially the same. Cologne even gets better longevity on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dynendal View Post
    Creed Original Vetiver, hmm - that reminds me - you'll see a million arguments about Cool Water smelling like Green Irish Tweed, but there is many, many more similarities between Original Vetiver and Mugler's Cologne. It is definitely not worth the price difference. Original Vetiver is a little more leafy in the basenotes, while Cologne is more musky. However, they're essentially the same. Cologne even gets better longevity on me.
    I've read that before here on BN, but I don't quite get the similarities, especially in the opening.

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    Default Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    Before we help you answer this question, you've got to explain one thing... How did you go 2 1/2 years and only make 5 posts?!

    At this rate, it will take you 476 years to reach post #1000!
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    How about Guerlain Vetiver Frozen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adonis View Post
    I don't like GV at all (smells like dental cement to my untrained nose), but I really like the smell of Creed Original Vetiver. Plus, you can tell your friends that Elvis and JFK wore it.
    Although I strongly doubt there is much truth to the matter, Elvis and JFK are said to have worn Creed's vintage Vetiver, not Creed's Original Vetiver. The latter was created in 2004. Wearing a scent because a celebrity supposedly wore it is a sham anyway, especially when you hear it from Creed. But fun nonetheless

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    Quote Originally Posted by L'aventurier View Post
    Although I strongly doubt there is much truth to the matter, Elvis and JFK are said to have worn Creed's vintage Vetiver, not Creed's Original Vetiver. The latter was created in 2004. Wearing a scent because a celebrity supposedly wore it is a sham anyway, especially when you hear it from Creed. But fun nonetheless

    You mean Cary Grant, who died in 1986 didn't wear GIT, which was created in 1985?
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    Default Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    Welcome to the forum. I also got feedback about GV smelling "old". Didn't matter to me as GV was not to my liking.

    Please try Mugler Cologne for a fresh, modern vetiver implementation and for an earthier accord go for Malle's Vetiver Extraordinaire. Neither of those 2 have the tobacco accord that the Guerlain has.

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    Default Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    I also agree with trying Mugler Cologne and CdG Vettiveru. But they still won't be the same as Guerlain Vetiver......
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    Hah!

    I went through an early phase on basenotes, when I tried a lot of the best selling classics - Cool Water, Aqua di Gio, Romance, Polo, etc etc. Then I basically lost interest in scents altogether (including wearing any of them) for about two years.

    For some reason, I got interested again. The idea of wearing a scent to make myself happy and be noticed and express a personality was much more appealing than trying to impress girls (I've been with the same wonderful woman for over 6 years). So, here I am with a "fresh" take on the cologne hobby.

    Some background: I'm 24 years old, in my 2nd year of my PhD in experimental psychology, am 5'7" 130 lbs and definitely not a manly man. I'm an intellectual/thinker type, and I'm not trying to really impress anyone... just trying to find scents that best reflect me.

    Thanks for the tremendous feedback... I'm hoping that Mugler's cologne will smell great to me and work with my skin. If not though, some of you are right - who cares what other people think. This scent is for me, to reflect who I am. And if smelling classy, clean, and fresh is wrong, well... I don't want to be right.

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    Sticking with vetiver, another one you might try is Le Vetiver by Lubin. It's fresher and lighter than the Guerlain, with a ginger note rather than the tobacco of the Guerlain.

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    Mugler lacks the deep rich sandal of OV. While OV retains the vetiver hour after hour, Mugler's seems to finish into a lackluster sweetish drydown rather soon. OV is worth the difference. They do seem the same at first though.

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    I think that you should stick (among other great fragrances yet to be tried) to GV too, since it does not smell old, but TIMELESS!

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    Some people just don't like Vetiver at all. Take me for example. I have a big 125ml bottle of Guerlain Vertiver. On first spritz, I sense something special here. I find it unique. Clean and classy. BUT just not for me. I just don't really care much for Vetiver.

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    There was a HUGE vetiver thread here somewhere--it resurfaces from time to time. This amazing thread has comprehensive reviews of most of the vetiver fragrances talked about here. Might be worth a search!

    I did alot of vetiver sampling, and it turns out, vetiver is in quite a few fragrances without necessarily being the main attraction. Of the vetiver scents I tried, I liked Guerlain Vetiver and CdG Vettiveru the best. Vettiveru is not as long lived, but it is light, fresh and great for warmer weather.

    The vetiver fragrance I ended up buying...Guerlain Mitsouko EDP (new release). It has a strong vetiver component in the mid notes and it does not get smoky in the drydown. The EDT is more about the vetiver than the EDP, and I considered buying this one too. I also found Balmain Jolie Madame (new release) to have a really prominent vetiver note (along with a smidgeon of oakmoss). JM does get a bit smokey, but it is not quite as strong as the GV drydown.

    Oh, and wear what you want
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asha View Post
    There was a HUGE vetiver thread here somewhere--it resurfaces from time to time. This amazing thread has comprehensive reviews of most of the vetiver fragrances talked about here. Might be worth a search!
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    Default Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    If you like Vetiver you should try Original Vetiver, which smells far more "modern" than Guerlain Vetiver or Armani Prive Vetiver Babylone, which I absolutely adore, and it is a modern citrus-vetiver scent. Personally, I find Vetiver Babylone quite versatile, maybe you will as well. Unfortunately, I don't have too much experience with Guerlain's Vetiver, because as much as I love Vetiver, every time I go to smell Guerlain's I get turned off by the tobacco. Some other good vetiver scents are :

    Racine
    Encre Noir
    and even though it's rediculously hard to sample my favorite: Guerlain Vetiver Pour Elle
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    I think that if someone is looking for an unconventional vetiver Lalique Encre noir is a good way to go. GV is a very nice scent, not my favorite vetiver, but by all means other people's opinions shouldn't keep you from wearing if you love it.
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    I think you'll end up coming back to Guerlain Vetiver. Plenty of the others will please you for sure, but the great feeling any scent gives you (doesn't matter which) isn't one that gets replaced.

    Further, if you wear Guerlain Vetiver for a month straight it won't smell old at all. It'll smell like you to you and all who smell you. You will have conditioned their noses to knowing it is YOU and not some straw man they smell.
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    You might want to check out Azzaro Pure Vetiver - it has the same knockout power and sillage as Azzaro Chrome, and no other vetiver smells quite like it.
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    Default Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    Quote Originally Posted by DustB View Post
    I think you'll end up coming back to Guerlain Vetiver. Plenty of the others will please you for sure, but the great feeling any scent gives you (doesn't matter which) isn't one that gets replaced.

    Further, if you wear Guerlain Vetiver for a month straight it won't smell old at all. It'll smell like you to you and all who smell you. You will have conditioned their noses to knowing it is YOU and not some straw man they smell.
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    Excellent posts everyone, thank you very much for the advice and links.

    DustB - yours was a particularly excellent point. You can never discount the power of associative learning...

    It seems like most "modern" scents today are either cloyingly sweet, or ridiculously aquatic. I know that this is an exaggeration of the highest degree and that there are a lot of excellent modern scents, but the "young kids" seem to wear stuff like acqua di gio, cool water, fierce, curve, l'eau d'issey (which I actually like ) and others. So, expose people that have only smelled this stuff 99% of the time, and you're automatically weird.

    That Mugler's Cologne becomes sweet at the tail end of the drydown might make it smell more "contemporary". I'll give a few of the suggestions a try and report back, but it really feels like I found "the one" in Guerlain's Vetiver...

    Thanks again
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    You might want to consider CdG Man 2. According to the LuckyScent description:
    2 MAN Notes
    incense, white smoke, saffron flowers, nutmeg, vetiver roots, mahogany, leather

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    Encre Noire maybe? the different approach to Vetivers I adore EN
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