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    Default Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    Quote Originally Posted by adonis View Post
    You mean Cary Grant, who died in 1986 didn't wear GIT, which was created in 1985?
    LOL I love the infamous Cary Grant sales pitch.
    Sales thread here

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    Guerlain Vetiver is one of my favorites and frankly it makes me want to try all the vetivers out there. This "old man" thing is bemusing. It depends on your frame of reference. To a 21-year-old, and old man is anyone over 40, so a Pierce Brosnan might wear it. But to me, age 47, old is more like 75 and older -- I'm picturing.....some grey-hair wrinkled geezer (my apologies to those of you who fit that description!).

    I hope GV and all its cultivars out there are being made long after they've slammed the lid down on my coffin! :-)

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    Default Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    I think scent has no age. If you like it wear it.
    I am surprised there is a vetiver scentric thread and nobody has mentioned Sycomore. You may want to try that one too. I second Lubin's Vetiver, very nice.
    I need to get a sample of Vetiver pour Elle. I got some samples from TPC this week, they were all Guerlains, but I forgot to order Vetiver pour Elle
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    Thank the Pong Gods for showing you that you need new friends. Non-ageist ones.

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    Default Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    Not that this is a recommendation for the thread-starter, but on the topic of vetiver I just came home from a business trip to find my bottle of LesNez Turtle Vetiver Exercise No.1 waiting for me! The bottle is individually numbered (nice touch, btw) and so very "this is not for marketing" (paper sticker label, no box). The vetiver itself is fantastic...dark and earthy, very natural. I want to say it's javanese-sourced oil but I'm not exactly sure. It's dark and has bite like Etro's Vetiver but smoother. I've only had it on for 20 minutes so I'll report back (or perhaps start a thread) after I've given it a couple wears. So far so good... I don't know if there are any bottles left but since only 80 were made worldwide I'd encourage anyone interested to get one soon!

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    Vetiver Tonka
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    Real beauty: 1) Frederic Malle 1-20 2) Chanel Egoiste 3) YSL Opium pour Homme edp 4) Guerlain Habit Rouge 5) TF Noir de Noir \\ Noses: 1) Jacques Cavallier 2) Maurice Roucel

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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamerII View Post
    Vetiver Tonka
    This is wicked. i love it very much. it's however unlike GV, EN, VE

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    Talking Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    Hi I confirm the tittle of the post,smells like old guy
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    Default Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    Guerlain Vetiver works well for me in the hot weather. Not many guys use it here and so its unique. I feel it does not smell like old guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adonis View Post
    I don't like GV at all (smells like dental cement to my untrained nose), but I really like the smell of Creed Original Vetiver. Plus, you can tell your friends that Elvis and JFK wore it.
    So Elvis and JFK are still alive??? Creed Original Vetiver was released in 2004!

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    I occasionally have this problem when somebody recognizes this scent because it has been around for awhile. It will smell like "old guy" b/c it has been around for quite some time. Some (including myself) might even consider this scent a classic. I wear it regardless of the reaction I get from some people because of how much I enjoy the scent.

    If you're looking for a vetiver that's more modern/contemporary I would try Frederic Malle/Dominique Ropion's Vetiver Extraordinaire.

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    I was going to chime in and then not, and then again wanted to say something, and not, and now I want to comment after all. I had that impression about Guerlain Vetiver the first time I smelled it over a year ago. It wasn't a gentleman fragrance to me, but it rather reminded me of my grandmother, because she used to always use Ponds Cold Cream and while I'm not saying that Vetiver smells like cold cream, the opening of Vetiver has a smooth cleanliness to it so that it smells fresh but in an almost "skin care product way".... for a little while..........................................

    but in about an hour, that sensation completely dissipates and the fragrance is just a stunning, bright vetiver. I can't imagine how anyone in your vicinity could think it smells anything but lovely. I think if you love it you should purchase it. You won't regret it I'm sure (and if you do you can always sell it easily here). Although sometimes holding off a while increases the love. I know it does for me.

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    Default Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    Have you tried other Guerlains? Maybe it isn't the vetiver note that you fell in love with but the Guerlinade. There is no escaping the maturity of all Guerlain scents, but like the boxer who hits above his weight, maybe a little added maturity and gravitas is not such a bad thing? If you can find it, I think that Guerlain's Vetiver is best in aftershave strength.
    Currently wearing: Guerlain Homme by Guerlain

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    Update to the saga.

    My quest was to acquire a small but versatile wardrobe of 4 or 5 fragrances that encompass all situations. I just bought two that I loved (Guerlain Vetiver and Versace Dreamer), and one blind based on reviews (Rive Gauche) on ebay. To hell with what people think re: GV; I feel that as a scent nothing could possible reflect "me" more, and the comments suggesting that people will come to associate the smell with me are definitely right. Nobody wears it around this area, and whats the point of smelling like every other university student on the planet with a fresh/aqua? At least I'll be noticed, if not "mauled" by women.

    At any rate, here's how my wardrobe is looking so far:

    Summer day: Guerlain Vetiver
    Summer night: Versace Dreamer
    Winter day: Rive Gauche?
    Winter night: Dior Fahrenheit
    Sporty/casual: L'eau d'Issey pour Homme

    And here's a summary of all I've tried and how they rank. Can anyone "distill" my tastes down in terms of types/notes of fragrances that appear to be common among my likes and dislikes? You guys have much more experience than I do.

    Love It:

    Guerlain Vetiver
    Versace Dreamer
    Dior Fahrenheit
    Azzaro pour homme

    Like It:

    Swiss Army
    Cool Water
    M7
    D&G pour homme
    Antaeus

    Passable/Mediocre:

    Egoiste
    CK One
    Paco XS
    Gucci pour homme
    Sean John Unforgivable
    Platinum Egoiste
    Liz Clairborne Curve
    Azzaro Chrome
    Acqua di Gio
    A*men
    Gucci Envy
    Terre d'hermes
    Gucci pour homme II

    Still to try (samples coming in the mail):

    Dior Homme
    L'anarchiste
    L'instant de Guerlain
    YSL L'homme
    Burberry London
    Michael Kors
    Guerlain Habit Rouge
    Armani Black Code
    Rive Gauche
    Bulgari Black
    Versace pour Homme
    Mugler Cologne
    Anick Goutal Vetiver
    Lubin Vetiver
    Lalique Encre Noir
    Lanvin Vetyver
    Dior Eau Savage
    Guerlain Habit Rouge

    Thanks for all the replies.

    Any comments on the wardrobe, my likes/dislikes, or anything at all appreciated!

    S
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    Quote Originally Posted by DustB View Post
    I think you'll end up coming back to Guerlain Vetiver. Plenty of the others will please you for sure, but the great feeling any scent gives you (doesn't matter which) isn't one that gets replaced.

    Further, if you wear Guerlain Vetiver for a month straight it won't smell old at all. It'll smell like you to you and all who smell you. You will have conditioned their noses to knowing it is YOU and not some straw man they smell.
    I feel this post is the most accurate. It kinda goes like this: if you wear something you love, you'll feel and act more confident in them, which in turn will make people like you and all that is associated with you. That kind of confidence reminds me of wearing an authentic luxury good even when a few people around you have replicas and no one but you can tell the difference.

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    zara stuff is pretty good

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    I used to be unsure whether I hate or love GV. And yes I used to feel, its a bit like an old man. But after a while, I disagree with it. I absolutely love it now. Try wear it in the winter, I doubt they will say the same. Its a gorgeous scent. btw, anyone know how to get creed vintage vetiver?
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    I found this post in another thread, and I think its very worth quoting in the context of this thread. Basically, my search for the "perfect" fragrance (I'm pretty sure) will culminate in me wearing Guerlain Vetiver, Thierry Mugler Cologne, or Paul Smith Story every day, summer and winter.

    Quote Originally Posted by DULLAH
    As someone who owns many vetiver frags, vetiver root essential oils, vetiver blade/leaf oils, and having smelled lots of vetiver scents...
    Azzaro's pure vetiver does nopt smell like any type of vetiver, at all. It is green, but it is a repulsive synthetic smell. When I smell it, it makes me think that it can kill organisms much smaller than myself.
    It is awful.

    If you are looking for fresh "light green" vetivers, that smell more like the leaves/blade of the plant, the Creed OV can be had for $110 for an authentic of ebay, do not buy any that costs less tahn $110, as 90% will be counterfeit. If you are looking to spend no more than $40-$65 for a decent size bottle...all the scents mentioned below can be had for that or less w/ some google/ebay.

    Mugler Cologne shares the same leafy "vetiver" note that Creed's OV has, only Mugler smells more unisex/feminine, and less natural. But the mugler is very very fresh and light, not woody or herbal at all.
    Paul Smith Story is another very clean, leafy "vetiver", with a unisex/masculine green-rose note. I'm not fond of rose in men's fragrance, but in this one I like it.

    Guerlain's Vetivers are a clean and masculine "emerald green", not as young/fresh/sweet as Mugler/Creed OV/Story.
    Guerlain Vetiver Sport is very fresh, with lots of Mandarin, and spicy as well, with extra red pepper.
    Guerlain Vetiver Extreme is darker, and sweeter, with a very herbal/licorice/spice undertone.
    Guerlain Vetiver, is clean, classic, and has tobacco at the base, which is absent or much less in the others.
    Don't waste time with Guerlain vetiver frozen.

    Maitre's Racine is a very natural, very masculine, and very warm & pleasant Vetiver root/citrus. It occupies a space between the cleaner "medium green" Guerlain's a the "darker green/brown", rootier "True" vetivers. With Patience, a 3.3oz bottle of Racine can be found for under $65. L'Occitane Vetyver is also a good medium-to-dark Vetiver, and very reasonably priced, given it's natural quality.

    Finally, are the "dark green" Vetivers, some even smell brownish-olive-drab-green, best exemplified by Etro's Vetiver or Maitre's Route De Vetiver. These are earthy, rich, woody, and focus on the root oil, as opposed to the blade/leaf. Lalique's Encre Noir is another dark Vetiver, although it is less harsh, and very natural, smooth and refined, for it's price point.


    Again, starting with a Geurlain is perfect reference, because if you find it too clean and bright, go for Racine or Etro/etc......If Geurlain's is to bitter/old/masculine, try Mugler or Story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TromboneGuy View Post
    If you like aquatics try to find a sample of Heeley's Sel Marin - very good example of that style, I think..
    SHHH Stop telling other people! Seriously though, Heeley Sel Marin Im afraid of it becoming my signature scent I love it so much. I still sniff my empty vial as I await my full bottle to arrive

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    A bit of an update to the saga.

    I tried a few of the "light, leafy, green, fresh" vetiver suggestions, and here's what I thought:

    Zara vetiver - not too shabby. I tried to imagine myself using it every day (like I can imagine using Guerlain Vetiver) but it wasn't happening for me. Its longevity also leaves me wanting. Still, of the "light, leafy" vetivers, its definitely the best.

    Mugler Cologne - I don't know WHAT it is, but this smell makes me absolutely sick. I've never experience anything like it before... every time I smell this I feel completely nauseous and I want to vomit. Its truly awful.

    Paul Smith Story - I get the exact same reaction as above, but a little bit more subdued. Its still nausea inducing.

    Does anyone know what common elements are present for Mugler Cologne and Paul Smith Story that makes them so unpleasant to me?

    S

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    I tend to say stick with what you love. Don't give it up for anyone. If you love Guerlain Vetiver, stick to it.

    I do commend you for trying other vetivers though. They are all over the map and your experience with Mugler illustrates how one can love one and hate another - they are radically apart.

    Three vetivers I would suggest you explore (not claiming you will like them) are: Givenchy Vetiver, Etro Vetiver and the one I like best of all: Creed's 1948 Vetiver (not original), which I find to be a fresh, summery scent.
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    Oh, I suppose I should add my other Vetiver (and vetiver-esque) like experiences as well.

    Lanvin Vetyver - doesn't smell like vetiver at all to me, but rather, a nice, pleasant, clean scent. Sort like a toned down Geir or Allure Homme sport.

    Lubin Vetyver - amazing, amazing stuff. I wouldn't buy it for regular use because of the price, but I think its very similar to Guerlain Vetiver with a sweeter, gingery opening and similar drydown. I wish I was a millionaire.

    Annick Goutal Vetiver - very dry (to steal a reviewer's term) - acrid even - but still pleasant. I think this gets into the real of scents that drifts away from the area I want to be in. That is, where I love the scent, and others love (or at least like) the scent on me. This one seems like an excercise in what a scent can be. Its not beautiful, but I like it.

    Encre Noir - similar to the Goutal Vetiver. Really dry, really sharp and "crunchy" smelling (I can't describe things properly, I'm a newbie). In smells like an electric shock. Again, I really like it, but would never wear it as a scent to share with others.

    I tried to sample as much as I could from both sides of the vetiver continuum that others have described, from light and fresh to dry and dark. I did not like the "light" vetivers at all (except for Zara), and I enjoyed the dark ones as an excercise in what scent could be. The best was still definitely Guerlain Vetiver. The thing is a wonderful masterpiece. Soapy, clean, slightly spicy, slightly sweet, fresh but not overly fresh, excellent longevity, sillage, and an excellent price. Its as good as fragrances get, and so far I've tried about 100 samples since I decided I was going to find a new scent.

    Strangely enough, the two others that I like the most and will buy for my wardrobe are Curve (casual/light), Versace the Dreamer (summer nights out), and Dior Fahrenheit (winter nights out). Guerlain Vetiver will take care of day-to-day duties year 'round.

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    Default Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    This long without a mention of Vetiver Eau Glacée? It's a flanker of Gurlain Vetiver that removes the tobacco note which is probably why others think it smells like "old guy," and replaces it with vibrant citrus and mint notes, creating a much more "youthful" impression.

    EDIT: Well damn, it's been mentioned. Forgot it was also known as Frozen.
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    Default Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    Guerlain Vetiver pour Elle!

    Guerlain house - Cred

    Vetiver - Guerlain quality

    Light florals instead of tobacco - eliminates the "old man" vibe and adds freshness

    And you have a winner!

    Eat your Guerlain cake and have it.
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    Default Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    Quote Originally Posted by perfaddict View Post
    Guerlain Vetiver pour Elle!

    Guerlain house - Cred

    Vetiver - Guerlain quality

    Light florals instead of tobacco - eliminates the "old man" vibe and adds freshness

    And you have a winner!

    Eat your Guerlain cake and have it.
    Good idea! There are plenty of guys here that like it and I remember Turin recommending it strongly.
    Currently wearing: Augusto by Mazzolari

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    Default Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    Killer Deep, it seems we have alot of common interests... imma fan of fahrenheit, guerlain vetiver,XS, Coolwater, LDIssey

    Based on what you mentioned and would like to have suggested,

    Greens : Paco Rabanne Ph

    Aquatic : Bvlgari Aqua

    Fresh : Clinique Happy

    I would support your trying out of m7, Kouros, RIve Gauche. Give them some extra time, coz many a times they can put one off the initial whiff, myself included. If it grows on you, im pretty certain it'll be one of your faves, but if it doesnt after multiple samplings and trials, then you porbably hate them, m7 and kouros in particular

    Not big on Mugler, so i wouldnt qualify to give any suggestions...


    Scentronic, i was wondering the same thing about the 2 year plus hiatus

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    Default Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    honestly
    I dont like it either
    I dont get the hype
    it smells way too soapy with a massive Hay note in there
    eww?
    "either"? *looks around*
    the only "hype" seems to be yours
    "soapy"? must be a niche note im missing out on.
    "HAY"????! oh wait nevermind
    "eww?" now i know what to spray on you

    Kidding


    ITs all subjective
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    Default Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    Quote Originally Posted by perfaddict View Post
    Guerlain Vetiver pour Elle!

    Guerlain house - Cred

    Vetiver - Guerlain quality

    Light florals instead of tobacco - eliminates the "old man" vibe and adds freshness

    And you have a winner!

    Eat your Guerlain cake and have it.
    It's truly incredible, and if I didn't want so many other things I'd buy it. Problem is it's also damn expensive.
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    Default Re: i *love* guerlain vetiver, but it smells like old guy to others... help!

    Phil,im absolutely tempted with VPE as well. price seems to turn me off a little. considering i find GV perfect for my use, im not sure how much more satisfaction i would get from VPE. have you considered just getting the GV? VPE hasnt really been tried and tested by many i reckon, so id play it safe.

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