Thread: Luca Turin??
Who is Luca Turin and why is his opinion and GUIDE so important
to so many Basenotes memmbers?
It is just an opinion and expirience of one person.
it doesn't mean that mutch except that it tells what HE thinks about a certan perfume.
the thing is , i just see his name over and over and over again here.
It is surprising me how many members depend there perfume purchase on
hi comment and guide.
How important can he be ?
how important are other reviewers here to you Mo...? same can apply for Mr. Turin.
He is a fragrance critic with a wealth of information on what happens behind the scene in the industry. He, just like us, is extremely passionate about scents and is only spreading the message in his own way. also, if you have read his book, which i presume you havent, you would see how enjoyable/challenging it is to read his reviews. you must also know, he is a leading scientist in the field of aromachemicals and takes his hobby pretty seriously. more seriously than anyone here does.
over a period of time, i have warmed up to his reviews and kinda agree with him on most. i dont want to cite eg. as some of those scents are on the sale thread.
So, yes, he is a pretty important figure and people here would often quote him on variety of issues. also, you must know, he is the one who inspired Chandler Burr on perfumes. just imagine how infectious this person would be? Chandler Burr came into the perfume world purely on the basis of how Mr. Turin Inspired him.
Luca is the person who has pretty much rewritten human understanding of the art and science of smell.
But other than that he's nothing special.
He's very educated and knowledgeable as well. I don't knock what he does, however I go by the beat of my own drummer. It's my sense of smell, my money and my enjoyment.
As good as his information is, we don't share similar tastes, so it would be unwise for me to base my buys on his opinion. I have certain members here that have reviews on juice that interests me that I hold in high regard.
See if his taste is the same as yours and then make a decision on whether or not his opinion is purchase-worthy.
Belive when i say this,
I am not respectless person towards public figures in any industry.
Few years a go i have won a great price for new and youg up comming artists in The Netherlands.
I still belive it is just the opinion of a selected group. it is what few persons think of my work,
that doesnt mean i m THAT good, but it only means that they, 5 persons found my work very promissing
and they have selected me as a winner.
Same story with Turin, i really think that many other people wrote about perfume.
But that doesnt mean that a perfume guid can become a bible kind of thing.
I dont belive in the bible, but this is just a exampel.
He is the person who opened my eyes to the world of smelling
Luca Turin is a gifted writer, industry insider and scientist. His opinions are informed and witty. He isn't asking for people to follow him blindly, he isn't actually asking for anything except, perhaps, for an audience. He's certainly found one here.
That said, I find critics are often the most likely to miss the uniqueness of new ideas because they're so steeped in what is considered classic. Case in point: when the movie Blade Runner was first released in 1982 it was savaged by critics for the very things that made it unique and revolutionary. Its over-stylized deadpan quality, that represents the sad direction of humanity, is more accurate than the bravado antics of the Stars Wars trilogy, which the critics loved.
This problem also runs in reverse. In an attempt to find the revolutionary the critic often take themselves a bit too seriously and often gets behind the wrong horse. Case in point: Estee Lauder's Beyond Paradise and its ***** rating by Turin.
Critics are often blinded by too much knowledge.
Last edited by Kevin Guyer; 8th May 2009 at 08:06 PM.
My english language is not devoleped very well.
But i wil try to tell u this.
I have read a theread here about a member who felt sad that Turin didntlike mona de orio.
many other members reacted and there was also some other site with information about the same.
THAT was an eye opener to me!
The fact the we give a person so mutch saying power and we blindly folow and forget about ower
own sensses and ower own choices.
That made me wonder why he and his book are so important.
Do u see how easy we mislead ower personal taste ?
He's the Gene Shalit of the perfume industry..
Members here DO NOT give him too much authority. Because members talk about his opinions DOES NOT mean he decides things for them or that they accept his opinions themselves.
Members here make up THEIR OWN MINDS Moreda.
That girl, that bottle, that mattress and me.
I take his word as one coming from a well informed, experienced and smell scent specialist. Just like I read from movie critics, cigars, watches and food. I do not agree with him in everything he says but that is the beauty of it. I have never bought a fragrance influenced by his opinion , I read about his opinion after I buy the fragrance. On the other hand I have bought a great deal of fragrances based on basenoters reviews which to me are more diverse, interesting and to the point.
The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education.
we all need to hear about somthing, than get ciorious and try and see if u love it or not .
I dont want to pretend to be a very autonomous person. I am happy being informed by others
and to be influenced by some members.
I hope i am not ofending anyone here DUSTB...
it is just that i have recived many times...about 10times links to his guide.
That made me wonder why it is like that... why are his word some kind of prophecy to some.
There are not a lot of perfume/fragrance writings in print, so of course the few people who have made the effort to do so ( Turin/ Sanchez), should be talked about.
Last edited by Surfacing; 8th May 2009 at 07:36 PM. Reason: spelling
It would be because his guide has a _whole lot of perfumes_ in it, and the reviews tend to be useful. There are very few resources that you can go to and expect a moderately high chance of finding the perfome of your choice reviewed.
So just as I go to Roger Ebert's site if I want to see an opinion about a movie, I go to Turin's guide if I want to see an opinion about a perfume. But that opinion is a starting point, not the final answer.
This discussion feels a little straw-man-ish. You're arguing against the idea that Turin is an infallible perfume god. But nobody is arguing _for_ the idea that he is.
He's well-informed. He's interesting. He writes amusingly. He happens to also be a full-fledged scientific genius and quite possibly have an unusually fine sense of smell, but neither of those things are terribly relevant, IMO, to the Guide. The Guide, to me, just comes down to those first three: Well-informed, interesting, writes amusingly.
Please dont feel offended jsut because i have said what is on my mind.
Or just dotn react if feel like offended. this was not the reason why i asked why he is so important.
I didnt relized that soem would feel offend by my opinion so easily!!!
Last edited by moreda; 8th May 2009 at 07:55 PM.