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    Default IT ARRIVED: Vol de Nuit Extrait purchase


    Today, someone I know told me they have found a vintage 1oz bottle of vintage Vol de Nuit Extrait (pictured) that they are going to sell. I've never tried this Guerlain release (least of all a vintage extrait of it), but have engaged in a recent discussion with another member here about it. This has encouraged me to read more about it too, and it *sounds* as though it might appeal to me. I am NOT one to normally buy blind, as having done so twice in the past has ended me up with a pair of scrubbers.

    My question is this... what is a "fair price" to pay for this? I don't want to be blinded by the flacon's beauty and charmed at the idea of owning a nice vintage Guerlain, and fork out more than I ought to. This person has not suggested a price yet, but I am ready to jump at it - if the price is right, of course.

    Anyone have any suggestions?
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    Default Re: Vol de Nuit Extrait purchase

    I think they use to go for 170 - 180 USD on ebay. And hey - if you don´t like it you know who to contact...
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    Of course Pelle!
    It was you who drew my attention to this release to begin with.
    Last edited by Sorcery of Scent; 19th May 2009 at 08:32 AM.

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    Well considering an ounce of new VdN is around £170 now anything less than that is a bargain IMO .

    I would snap it up myself ....

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    Default Re: Vol de Nuit Extrait purchase

    i think u should leave the price matter to the person who is selling it.
    that is the best thing.

    it is a nice fragrance. it somehow reminds me of diorella.

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    Mo, Im not hoping to influence the price - that is totally up to the seller.
    I just want to know what is a reasonable price to pay.

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    Hello Dimi,

    depands on how mkutch u like it.
    I wouldnt pay more than 120€ for it.

    you dont know who it smells and you cant compaire it any more to what i was in the early days.
    i have bought a vintage shalimar tear drop bortle 400ml.
    smells gourgous , i do recognize the SHALIMARNESS in it.
    but it does smell like another scent. i still like it allot.

    What i want to say is that u have no refference to what it must smell like.
    so u will never know if the smell did change pr lost some power or some notes.

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    Default Re: Vol de Nuit Extrait purchase

    Well, last time VdN extrait sold on eBay it was for $160 and that was a 15ml and not even in the original bottle. The time before that the exact same bottle as you describe went for much less, I think $150 for the 30ml.

    Vintage VdN extrait is quite a rare find on eBay these days since the fragrance was nowhere near as popular as Mitsouko or Shalimar back in the day... I'd say $250 is definitely fair and probably more than fair. If you don't like it I very much welcome you to pm me, I'm dying to get my hands on it!

    EDIT: I just noticed that it's not sealed anymore? that changes things quite a bit...
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    Default Re: Vol de Nuit Extrait purchase

    Another thing I wanted to add: contrary to current formulation Mitsouko and L'Heure Bleue, the current formulation of VdN is very good (by coincidence, I'm sporting it today ). If you don't like that one you're not going to like the vintage either, I think.
    Last edited by Merlino; 19th May 2009 at 01:05 PM. Reason: grammar :o
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    To reject such a bottle will be hard.. Hope you'll find the right solution Dimitri..
    unico grande amore.

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    Hi Dimi - nice find! As said here, depends on 1) is it sealed? 2) no evaporation? If sealed and no evaporation, I'd personally pay up to, say, 180 € since it's a 60s edition.

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    I bought a .25 oz, 90's vintage bottle for $90 recently. It was sealed in the box. Vol de Nuit is wonderful in that Youth Dew way. A rich and resinous oriental.

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    Yum! Ruggs you make it sound wonderful.
    The plus side is that a regular bottle of VdN is due to appear on my doorstep later this week or early next week en route to another BN'er. He has been kind enough to allow me a sniff as it passes through, so at very least I will have an idea of what Im in for. Im all for "rich and resinous" orientals!
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    Here's what I wrote about it on my site:

    Vol de Nuit is really dark like the night - it's the most successful of Jacques Guerlain's "1930's style" perfumes that all seem to share a mystic, gloomy and "lonely" atmosphere, thanks to dry, herbal-earthy-mineral or leathery notes. Vol de Nuit is the only classic range survivor of Jacques Guerlain's post-Shalimar perfumes and not least renowned for its wistful scent of galbanum and daffodil. It's scarce on top notes, so you are in the middle of its green-brown, herbal-woody heart the moment it is let out of its bottle. Together, L'Heure Bleue, Mitsouko and Vol de Nuit are often referred to as "sister fragrances" because of their shared spicy qualities. Yet, Vol de Nuit is the darkest, least flowery and most aromatic of the three, and consequently some people find it to be a unisex fougère-like fragrance, just like Jicky.
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    Default Re: Vol de Nuit Extrait purchase

    Thanks Mr Guerlain... I had hoped you might weigh in on this one. I am yet to discover how much has been used or evaporated (I am also hoping to have more photos to scrutinise).

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    Dimitri, how exciting.

    I have sampled Vol de Nuit in the EdT and in the parfum.

    I didn't like the powdery aspect of the EdT. As you know I am not a fan of powdery scents, but there are some Guerlain's that I will wear that are powdery simply because the olfactory aura they give off is dusty and slightly different than just the smell of talcum powder. But it seemed as if VdN EdT didn't have this aura - it, just smelled like talcum powder and slightly feminized the fragrance (in my mind).

    But the parfum, well that was incredibly wonderful. It took me about three wearings to even figure out the smell - it doesn't really smell like any oriental I've ever smelled before. The galbanum, that's very present, when you apply it is more akin to a green scent (or a fougere) not an oriental, but the way it's woven into the overall fragrance is really, really special. When it dries down, it turns very antiquated and got me a little melancholic. It has a weightiness to it, that diffuses around you when you wear it, but yet it's very subtle. I wore the last of my parfum sample a couple of months ago, on a sad Sunday evening - it seemed like the perfect scent for the moment I was in. I will never forget that night.

    In addition, as Mr. Guerlain has already pointed out, the box (showing in the picture) proves that this is 1960's era VdN. When I saw the picture, my heart skipped a beat a little - since when it comes to VdN this is the EXACT formulation and bottle I would buy if I could.

    What should you pay? How ever much you can afford Dimitri. As has been said before - I have tracked bottles just like this on Ebay (opened, not sealed) that have sold for more than $250.
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    Default Re: Vol de Nuit Extrait purchase

    I love this scent. I have a brand new bottle from the French Shopper (Ebay) that was around the $250 price. It is fresh, which is a plus. I haven't noticed any faults in strength or beauty with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Guerlain View Post
    Here's what I wrote about it on my site:

    Vol de Nuit is really dark like the night - it's the most successful of Jacques Guerlain's "1930's style" perfumes that all seem to share a mystic, gloomy and "lonely" atmosphere, thanks to dry, herbal-earthy-mineral or leathery notes. Vol de Nuit is the only classic range survivor of Jacques Guerlain's post-Shalimar perfumes and not least renowned for its wistful scent of galbanum and daffodil. It's scarce on top notes, so you are in the middle of its green-brown, herbal-woody heart the moment it is let out of its bottle. Together, L'Heure Bleue, Mitsouko and Vol de Nuit are often referred to as "sister fragrances" because of their shared spicy qualities. Yet, Vol de Nuit is the darkest, least flowery and most aromatic of the three, and consequently some people find it to be a unisex fougère-like fragrance, just like Jicky.
    This is the most spot-on description I have ever read about Vol de Nuit. There's something wonderfully gloomy about the minimal top notes. You are forced into sulking awhile for it to share its magnificence. I think it's worth the wait.
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    This is a marvelous opportunity. The box type indicates 1960's and if no evaporation and sealed, and it were me, I would place value at $200 to $275. Anything less would be a bargain IMO. If you don't buy it let us know where it can be had. I am sure it won't last long.

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    Dimitri,
    you are just a lucky person!
    I was looking for that bottle (since I bought VdN (15 ml, perfume, 90`s, usual bottle, USD 70)) with no luck.
    Seems to me this bottle (in perfect unopened condition) could cost from 150 to 300 euro.
    And I`m sure that you could find the same bottles on perfume collectioners meetings (bourses) in Europe quite regularly.
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    Thank you for the ballpark figures everyone.

    Moon_fish, I only wish that Denmark would hold such a fair! Seems I might have to nip across to Holland or Germany sometime where they really do it in style!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri View Post
    Thank you for the ballpark figures everyone.

    Moon_fish, I only wish that Denmark would hold such a fair! Seems I might have to nip across to Holland or Germany sometime where they really do it in style!
    It`s a small world after all, and everything in EU is quite close (well, compared to Russia scale) - so I believe that you will be in France, Holland or Germany quite soon

    At least, I would went there until I find some vintage VdN and Sous le Vent.
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    Well, the lo-down is that its a sealed bottle (1oz 7 30ml) completely full.
    $225 + shipping.

    Sound worthwhile?

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    Yes. Grab it!

    A 30 ml bottle of new parfum is over $300, and occasionally I see a parfum tester of the newer formulation on ebay for around $180-$200. A 30 ml vintage, full and sealed is a treasure!
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    Default Re: Vol de Nuit Extrait purchase

    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri View Post
    Well, the lo-down is that its a sealed bottle (1oz 7 30ml) completely full.
    $225 + shipping.

    Sound worthwhile?
    No-brainer. Please please please () pm me should you decide not to buy it!
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    Default Re: Vol de Nuit Extrait purchase

    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri View Post
    Well, the lo-down is that its a sealed bottle (1oz 7 30ml) completely full.
    $225 + shipping.

    Sound worthwhile?
    Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!
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    Sweet jebus... I am ready to pull the trigger... but Im sooooo not one to buy blind! *groan*

    Thanks for the encouragement fabulous people!

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    Dimitri, when they ship it to you, make sure they use parafilm around the stopper neck (if needed) and pack the box and bottle separately (more secure for shipping).

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    Default Re: UPDATED: Vol de Nuit Extrait purchase

    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri View Post
    Sweet jebus... I am ready to pull the trigger... but Im sooooo not one to buy blind! *groan*

    Thanks for the encouragement fabulous people!
    I totally understand D - of course, here we are egging you on to spend your money on the blind buy, for a fragrance we know we like. SIlly, I know, but you asked for it.

    I rarely blind buy these days also. However, ever since I became a Guerlainaholic (Hi, my name is Mike, and I'm an....) I have purchased a handful of Guerlain fragrances blind. All of them I was happy with. The newer Guerlain's should NOT be blind bought (I hated Guerlain Homme and the new Aqua Allegoria's). But vintage Guerlain? I will blind buy vintage Guerlain in a heartbeat.

    Of course, only you can be the final judge of whether it's worth it or not.

    But don't expect us Guerlainaholics to stop enabling you.
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    Default Re: UPDATED: Vol de Nuit Extrait purchase

    Aha ! That's exactly the one I have been after. (Thanks for the pic !) ... I just luv that fab zebra-striped box. It's the "cherry on the top" of an already magnificent, iconic bottle ! ... And then of course the magical "jus" can only be excellent !

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