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    where can i pick up a sample of this from? i looked on tpc, and it appears they don't sell this one on it's own. from reading, though, it seems that this could be a bit redundant if one owns green irish tweed? it seems very interesting to me, and i'd like to sample to see if i should commit to a whole bottle. thank you!

    eric b

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    PM sent

    This is one of my husband's favorite scents.
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    Eric - English Fern is NOTHING like Green Irish Tweed, at all.

    I'd be interested in your thoughts on it. Personally, I'm not fond of it, in fact it's the only Penhaligon's I could not ever see me buying.
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    Agree that English Fern is nothing like Green Irish Tweed.

    I think of English Fern as an old fashioned, clean fragrance, which to me provides an interesting contrast to modern clean fragrances. I know I would rarely reach for it, so I won't buy it.

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    Agree it's nothing like Green Irish Tweed. I don't really care for it, don't know why though.
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    Ebay has samples of this frequently, also likely to find mini bottles of it there. Call Penhaligon's and order a scent library and ask that english fern be one of the frags in it.
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    I have to say that along with Elixir, English Fern is the only scent from Penhaligon's Men's line that I do not own..or care to own.

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    wow, looks like this is a polarizing one? lol

    eric b

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    Which Green scent is similar to English Fern?
    (besides trumper wild fern)

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    I think it's just that it is, as a classic, like many other fougeres. It's a lot like lime frags. After a certain point, it just isn't possible to be terribly creative. EF is not a bad frag at all, just kind of a pervasive theme.
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    I think I remember finding it too sweet. I just didn't like the sweetness with the fern. Unfortunately Dullah, I haven't tried a single other fern scent, or anything that I find very similar. Hopefully someone with more knowledge of this genre will have some input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DULLAH View Post
    Which Green scent is similar to English Fern?
    (besides trumper wild fern)
    Here is a vote of L-O-V-E for English Fern. I love those marvellous green, perky and mossy scents. Trumper Wild Fern is greener and fresher than Penhaligons. The closest analogue is the late lamented Crown Fougere (which is a bit simpler but has better longevity).
    A recent point of comparison is Bois 1920 Extreme. It is a bit sweeter and has a hit of vanilla. Less aristocratic.
    That distinctive oakmoss "hit" is what makes these scents.
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    Thanks oddysseum.
    It must share some notes with other more common scents? no ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DULLAH View Post
    Thanks oddysseum.
    It must share some notes with other more common scents? no ?
    Oakmoss is the dominant note, but oakmoss can be done in different ways, and there are different types of oakmoss.
    I can detect the same type of oakmoss in Armani pour Homme, but that is a heavier scent. Pretty nice though. That is a common scent I can point to as an analogue.
    The oakmoss in question here is green, perky, with an appealing brisk note that is something like rubber (in a nice way). The geranium in EF adds another bit of squeaky brisk soapiness. To me that is a classic "ferny" sort of note, perhaps with a bit of dry lavender.
    The patchouli is very restrained, and with a bit of light musk makes a very satisfying end.
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    I agree with Odysseusm on that. Armani Pour Homme is a modern frag that I would consider similar to English Fern. Not identical, but definitely similar in feel.
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    If you can find Roger & Gallet's Fern soap, that is essentially the scent... and a really nice soap!
    odysseusm

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    Ok thanks both.
    I equate Armani PH's topnotes with Bowling Green's top lemon/citrus blast
    I equate Armani PH's middle/heart with a less-natural Sisley Eau Di Campagne.
    And of course the base is a heavy 80's oakmoss.

    What is English Fern's top or mid notes like ?

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    English fern has an herbal opening, IMHO. It's crisp and somewhat floral but with a strikingly heavier "green" vibe. Frankly the middle is much the same as the top notes. Still crisp and green. There is a touch of warmth in there. hard to tell if it is attached to the middle or basenotes. (sniffing it for you now). There is either patchouli and/or pepper... I'd say it's in the base, but it could be a very good transitional middle note like another herb that carries both floral and spicy accords.
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    You can request free samples directly from Penhaligon's via their website. They are very generous.
    I too love EF and rate it among my favorites.

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    Here is how the Penhaligon's website describes English Fern:

    Head Notes: Geranium and Lavender

    Heart Notes: Clover

    Base Notes: Patchouli, Sandalwood and Oakmoss

    Created in 1910. A classic English fougere. A completely unique, fresh and earthy tonic of a fragrance.

    A distillation of countryside and spiced woods. Clover, lavender and geranium bed down with oakmoss and patchouli to create a rich, green aromatic scent that oozes Englishness. A soft ‘clean’ fragrance capturing that ‘just out of the shower’ scent. English Fern encapsulates that elusive sexy, fresh, spicy, just washed quality. Imagine the exit from a steam-filled bathroom, the tender skin still slightly damp, with clouds of English Fern rolling off clean warm skin.

    Delicate and finely balanced. A refreshing pick me up of a fragrance.

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    Your post reminds me of a good element in EF, scentsitivity. The clover adds a leafy, green-field aspect that gives more green depth to the oakmoss. With a geranium - clover - oakmoss triad, the scent is well constructed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odysseusm View Post
    Your post reminds me of a good element in EF, scentsitivity. The clover adds a leafy, green-field aspect that gives more green depth to the oakmoss. With a geranium - clover - oakmoss triad, the scent is well constructed.
    I agree it is well constructed and that clover is key to its character. I also feel that Penhaligon's description maps pretty well to my experience with English Fern, although I don't think I would have used the word 'sexy' to describe it.

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    Ahhh, I think I know what I don't like now. I don't think I care for the combo of lavender and oakmoss. I would agree with Ody that Bois 1920 Extreme shares some similarities but whereas EF feels sort of transparent Bois 1920 Extreme feels heavier and denser, I love Extreme but don't care for EF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scentsitivity View Post
    I agree it is well constructed and that clover is key to its character. I also feel that Penhaligon's description maps pretty well to my experience with English Fern, although I don't think I would have used the word 'sexy' to describe it.
    This may be why I like it so much on my husband-- the clover aspect.

    I have to agree that this is not a "sexy" scent-- it's classic, refined, understated but confident. An introverted scent, for when you aren't trying to make an impression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtgprox05 View Post
    ...whereas EF feels sort of transparent Bois 1920 Extreme feels heavier and denser...
    Exactly my experience. I'd add that the Bois has a sweetish tinge of vanilla. Some would like it because of that, I like it in spite of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odysseusm View Post
    Exactly my experience. I'd add that the Bois has a sweetish tinge of vanilla. Some would like it because of that, I like it in spite of that.
    Haha, looks like we have exact opposite views on this one. The vanilla is actually what I love about Extreme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DULLAH View Post
    Which Green scent is similar to English Fern?
    (besides trumper wild fern)
    Truefitt & Hill's "Grafton".

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    I love T&F Grafton, it is my favorite in the line. However, I'd say that it has a dusky green character due to the galbanum; it seems quite distinct from English Fern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubert View Post
    Truefitt & Hill's "Grafton".
    hmm..I didn't reaal like or dislike grafton. I'll have to post back here with my comparison of the two.

    I hope the clover is dominant, and the lavender slight. I love the clean green floral smell of the little white clover buds in our yard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DULLAH View Post
    hmm..I didn't reaal like or dislike grafton. I'll have to post back here with my comparison of the two.

    I hope the clover is dominant, and the lavender slight. I love the clean green floral smell of the little white clover buds in our yard.
    Dullah do you have a sample of English Fern? I found the lavender quite strong though, so watch out.
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    got this in yesterday, thanks argogos!

    initial thoughts are positive. even though i am new to this hobby, for some reason this one just smells english to me. i dunno why, but it makes sense to me. also... why didn't anyone tell me i misspelled penhaligons? lol

    eric b

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    EF is one of the more typically English feeling scents, you are right about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e-dub View Post
    why didn't anyone tell me i misspelled penhaligons? lol
    We see what we expect to see.

    I usually notice typos but didn't spot yours.

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