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    ...it all started with the purchase of Ungaro II & Aramis Havana Reserva. i brought these two scents paying premium price and with lot of hesitation. I didnt want it to be a hype related purchase but, then theres always a reason behind popularity of such scents on Basenotes. Ungaro II and Havana Reserva; both are one of the best representation of perfume as art with no boundaries. These perfumes werent out there to please the masses. it was out there for people who had come a certain distance with scents and had acquired/developed a certain taste for perfumes. Then, Leonard Pour Homme happened...it further cemented my faith the quality of scents released in that era...a gritty, patchouli based scent with leathery overtones and a dry, intense, golden hued mossy feel to it with not a hint of sweetness. This one has really complex developments thruout and settles into a very smooth, almost vanillic/tonka sweet, sandalwood and amber base...need liberal sprays of this one, but it assures the wearer of an experience to long for.

    I was totally hooked on to vintages by now...but had no access to buy these...there were/are some sellers, but their prices were exorbitant with few choices...thats when we all witnessed a thread by our own member - "Xmen". His sale thread came in at a time when i was desparate for vintage/discontinued gems of past. For those who have interacted with Xmen aka Henry would know what a thorough gentleman and a kind hearted fellow he is. with the help of Henry, i soon was able to get hold of Gucci Nobile, Lancome Sagamore, Maxims Ph at affordable rates... other scents like Balenciaga Pour homme, Ho Hang Club, R de Capucci, Capucci Punjab, Bogart Furyo are in transit + many more from his sale thread on my wish list.

    Point is, there is no looking back now....im not suggesting i dont like my TDC's or Lutens or Tauer anymore (i feel these are classics anyways, it has that feel to it ) , but im content with the scents i have now and would rather focus on scents from 70' or 80's or even before.....

    how many of you feel the same way about scents of that era..especially 70's & 80's...do you feel there is a certain accord, a certain type of feel, depth & smoothness to scents of that era which is kinda rare to find today, except for few houses maybe (like Serge Lutens & Tauer) ?
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    Absolutely drawn to vintage scents. In fact, most of the frags I have are retro. I think that the era of the '60s-'70s had a lot more individuality and freedom, and this was reflected in the frags of the time. Let me give you an example: Monsieur Rochas. Now, its still being produced, mind you. I originally got the current scent (pink color). I then got the original scent (gold color). They smell similar initially. But in the drydown, the current scent goes for a "happy ending"- - - thats the only way I can describe it - - - a candy-like scent. Ther older scent's drydown is sober and mature. The new scent is an infantilization of a perfectly good original "adult" formula. I think Rochas was looking for a "feel good" scent when they were reformulating, to fit in with the current trend of non-offending scents.
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    Yes to vintage scents... However, I'm more interested in the 80's & 90's....

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    Not really, but then again I don't have the money for them either. It seems pretty tedious trying to sample vintage stuff, everything would be blind buys. I kinda like the feeling that if I run out of something I can get it with relative ease.

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    Absolutely... in fact I think there comes a point in the lifespan of ones' collecting at which vintage is the direction to go in. Quite frankly, vintages are generally better then what's available today. It's probably the lack of restrictions on ingredients, but the depth of vintage scents and quality of accords is so different then modern perfumes that it's taken me months to understand what I'm smelling. I'm smelling notes derived from ingredients that just aren't used anymore. My favorite are pre-80s feminines, which I find have the greatest diversity of styles and best quality. Often these scents are more masculine then current masculines, especially aquatics. Lanvin, Dior, Worth, Chanel, Guerlain, Houbigant, etc. are on my radar.

    As I see just on this thread, there is a misperception that vintage bottles are per se expensive and sampling inaccessible. This is not so. It may take patience, but many bottles can be found on ebay very reasonably - especially if you don't care about the quality of the physical bottle. Yes, there is a risk in that you may get juice that's turned or degraded, but with no risk comes no reward. For every dud I've bought on ebay I've bought 5-6 good bottles. As for samples, TPC is remarkably stocked. These samples tend to be expensive due to the nature of the limited supply, but really all one needs is .5ml to determine if it's worth pursuing a bottle. Also, there seem to quite a few BN members with vintages and I've started to get into the swing of trading samples. I'm certainly happy to work on vintage sample swaps.

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    Many years before getting into BN I had the chance of realizing that something was happening with male fragrances: variety and options of newly released scents seemed to revolve around certain concepts. Just to be more specific, I will give an example: I remember when bergamott made its triumphal masive entry back in the early nineties thanks to Eternity. Years passed and I realized that calone was the next big hit. Then came gourmand notes.

    The point was, I could not find many differences among many launches. Besides, I could not help noticing that these notes had some sort of physicial impact on my nosetrils, a burning / itching sensation on them and, sometimes, sneeziness.

    BaseNotes made the rest, for it showed me that I was not misjudging. Vintage scents show a variety of compositions that are hard to find nowadays. So, if you look at my wardrobe, you will realize that I am into vintage scents, be them designer or massive brands.

    I reserve a place for contemporary scents as long as they play with traditional concepts. So, yes, Jenson, you are right... and I envy that Leonard!
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    I love them for the quality of their ingredients and their strength. Scents were eclectic back then and I love that also.

    Most of mine are vintage, but not all. The more current ones I own however are of the stronger variety. Classic frags have ruined me in that regard. The vintage frags make the current ones smell chemically and synthetic to me, which is a bummer.

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    I am totally into the seventies.

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    Yes yes yes...

    I dig them all the time...the harder they are to find, the harder I try to obtain them....there is surely some magic in them....I think a part of it comes from the fact that they are discontinued and hard to find and that adds an element of 'desirability' to them...However that does not mean that they don't have any substance inherently...I mean what else does smell like Furyo, Balenciaga pour homme, Cuiron, Patou pour homme & the list goes on........

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    Quote Originally Posted by gupts View Post
    Yes yes yes...

    I dig them all the time...the harder they are to find, the harder I try to obtain them....there is surely some magic in them....I think a part of it comes from the fact that they are discontinued and hard to find and that adds an element of 'desirability' to them...However that does not mean that they don't have any substance inherently...I mean what else does smell like Furyo, Balenciaga pour homme, Cuiron, Patou pour homme & the list goes on........
    Nothing smells like them bro. The ingredients are no longer "cost-effective" and some are presently illegal. I am like you as you know. Half the fun is in the quest.

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    Yes I'm drawn to them, but I don't enjoy the effort required to own them.
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    Thanks for the overwhelming response guys! So, it's a resounding Yes! i concur with each one of your views + got to learn more in this aspect.

    Quote Originally Posted by shermanirving View Post
    As I see just on this thread, there is a misperception that vintage bottles are per se expensive and sampling inaccessible. This is not so.
    Shermanirving: you are right, i keep on hearing our members scoring super deals on Ebay. Unfortunately, im not familiar with Ebay + i dont feel comfortable dealing with someone im totally unfmiliar with (probabaly i need some guidance?)...hence i am totally dependent on BN sale board.

    Quote Originally Posted by NEoTY26 View Post
    Yes I'm drawn to them, but I don't enjoy the effort required to own them.
    Well said. i wish there were 20 more Xmen like sale threads

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    Vintage is my middle name.



    My fragrances, on average, were introduced twenty-nine years ago.
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    No.

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    I`m into vintages.
    My vintage began from Sagamore Lancome (though I traded it) and Derby Guerlain (now I have 3 bottles of it). Then - Guerlain, Worth, Patou, Piguet, etc., exploring chypres, fougeres, citruses...
    I found that feminine vintages are more masculine than contemporary masculines - now it seems so evident!

    For me the most precious bottles are:
    Fougere Royale Houbigant parfum from 50-60s
    Ambre et Cuir de Sauze EDC from the same era
    1000 Jean Patou parfum from 70`s
    Eau de Guerlain - very first edition from 1974 (Granai bottle 200 ml)
    Miss Dior parfum - 70`s
    Eau de Vetyver Givenchy - old pressurized bottle
    OK, Djedi too - but it`s from 90`s, so it`s just rare thing.
    Cravache by Piguet - 60`s
    Nombre Noire Shiseido
    Je Reviens Worth - 70-80

    I do not want to make blind buys, so I buy EDC or EDT before the perfume.
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    Not per sé. Whenever possible I buy vintage versions of frags I love, but I don't hold frags that were created 30-80 years ago in higher regard than fragrances that have been released recently.
    Looking to swap/buy/receive for free () the following samples/decants:
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    I'm a new collector, and I like the idea of wearing something that few others can - hence, discontinued frags. I've picked up Gucci Nobile, Liquid Karl, Ungaro II, Nine Flags Germany and some others and imagine I'll continue. I just bristle at the thought of spending money on Aqua di Gio or something like it that you can find on the dressers of half the men in the universe. I'd like to learn more about fragrance trends over the years and perhaps focus on one era. I love American expatriate literature. I wonder what Hemingway, Fitzgerald, Pound and the rest wore in Paris?

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    No not me, I´m not drawn to or looking for vintage scents at all.I´m 40 years old.
    I´ve worn most of the 90´s scents at the time they were released, and that was a good period for scents. Most 70´s, 80´s scent I find hideous and loud and I wouln´t want to wear them now.(I like music from the 80´s though)
    That and the shelf life of a perfume is about 2 to 5 years. I you buy a perfume from 20,30 years old, there´s a big chance it´s off or it doesn´t smell the way it was supposed to smell when it was released. (It may not smell off, but believe me , it is). I do think it´s great some classics from those periods are still made today.
    I know it may " depend on how it´s stored, bla,bla,bla,... " and I know lot´s of people on here will dissagree (and I would too if I was a vintage collector), but I like my fragrances to be fresh..That´s just the way I think about it "vintage". To each his own.
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    Thanks for sharing your views Eric

    My observation to your remark of Vintages being turned is only this...even if they are, my Ungaro I which is in a splash format..still feels a lot better than a latest niche purchase i have..dont wanna name names...so does a Patou Ph smell a lot better than PDN NY or other scents in similar genre....in other words, my view point is based on how these scents smell today and how it compares to other scents i have in my wardrobe....another eg. would be Balenciaga Ph. i mean, it still smells so fabulous!
    but then, every one here has shared a very valid view point on as to why they either like or dislike scents that represent a certain era..

    Moon Fish: You have such an enviable Collection...whats your source..?

    Two Roads: I know, you have excellent taste for vintage scents i religiously follow your top 5 leather scents list...would love to get hold of them some day...i believe Cuiron is just the begining for me.....Elsha, im looking at you

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    Im drawn to 20's-60's vintage scents more than 70's-90's scents.

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    I am not a collector of fragrances. I seek out fragrances that reflect my personality and will give others that smell my fragrance on me, a sense of what I am about; a passing olfactory glimpse of me. Although I respect vintage fragrances for their place in history, they reflect their period in history, just as today's modern fragrances do. The majority of vintage fragrances smell dated IMO. They are nostalgic and take me back to that place in time, but they are not relevant in how I want to be perceived by others on a daily basis.

    I love to smell vintage fragrances for reference and to help me in this hobby, but I won't wear them as a SOTD.

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    well said JWS.

    in my case, i dont see myself as a collector. I, as always, seek out for scents which are highly revered on BN...be it a Parfumerie Generale or a Lutens or a Tauer or a Different Company or a Profumum or Leonard or Balenciaga or Givench.. and in the process weed out the scents which doesnt suit me. i have sold of Chergui, Thundra and many others that are popular but, don't work on me or like you said, doesnt suit a particular individual....but thats true with every scent one picks...be it Vintage or newer scents.

    Dated? yes, thats a valid argument. Derby may smell dated to some...but then theres Maxims Ph and i think it's timeless. same with Sagamore and maybe many more that im not aware of..

    This thread is just to highlight a particular feel of scents which is kinda missing today, (except for few houses such as Guerlain, Chanel, Lutens & Tauer i dont see many houses feeding the appetite of someone who appreciates Vintages just as much as their favorite TDC )

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    Default Re: Are you drawn towards Vintage scents...

    Yes and no.

    I wear and enjoy a lot of vintage fragrances. But I also like many modern fragrances. I could never be locked into one type/genre of fragrances. A guy has got to have options!
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    Nice pic !! have 3 & mini's of two others .

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    Quote Originally Posted by petruccijc View Post
    Yes and no.

    I wear and enjoy a lot of vintage fragrances. But I also like many modern fragrances. I could never be locked into one type/genre of fragrances. A guy has got to have options!
    Agreed !

    Dimitrios: Thanks !
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    Just to clarify:

    I said the majority of vintage scents smell dated IMO, not all. Again, my perception only.

    I find some fragrances that are long in the tooth, timeless and have no problem wearing them. My SOTD is Givenchy Vetyver. The 70's and 80's frags are particulary hard for me to wear and I am not sure why.
    Also, the climate I live in is particularly limiting to me on the type of frags I wear. I live in a warm, humid climate and have a hard time justifying owning frags that are heavy, leather based, orientals, or just plain overbearing in warm temps. Lastly, I have a fear of others perceiving me as being 'stuck in a time warp', or 'dated' if they smell some vintage frags on me regularly.
    It is sort of like some guys that grew up in the 70's and 80's; they still have the semi-big hair butt cut, listen to vintage rock, and still think a Chevy Camaro is the shit. All of this was relevant in the day, but now, it seems really silly to most and out of place in 2009.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock_With_Scents View Post
    Just to clarify:

    I said the majority of vintage scents smell dated IMO, not all. Again, my perception only.

    I find some fragrances that are longth in the tooth, timeless and have no problem wearing them. My SOTD is Givenchy Vetyver. The 70's and 80's frags are particulary hard for me to wear and I am not sure why.
    Also, the climate I live in is particularly limiting to me on the type of frags I wear. I live in a warm, humid climate and have a hard time justifying owning frags that are heavy, leather based, orientals, or just plain overbearing in warm temps. Lastly, I have a fear of others perceiving me as being 'stuck in a time warp', or 'dated' if they smell some vintage frags on me regularly.
    It is sort of like some guys that grew up in the 70's and 80's; they still have the semi-big hair butt cut, listen to vintage rock, and still think a Chevy Camaro is the shit. All of this was relevant in the day, but now, it seems really silly to most and out of place in 2009.
    Agreed, word by word. there are indeed lot of factors that come into picture and cannot be the same for all, especially weather. Thanks for the insight JWS, always a pleasure
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    With respect to JWS' notion of vintages smelling dated: First, its all in the nose of the beholder (obviously), and while the accords and materials used in vintages are unlike those of today, that's exactly why they are so interesting. Next, whether the potentially 'dated' feel of some vintages is relevant depends on the root of what each individual's motivation is for liking fragrances. Your primary concern may begin and end at how others perceive that you smell. Alternatively, you may (like me) have a passion for fragrance-as-art and thus vintage exploration is important to understanding your knowledge of the art form. Neither motivation is wrong - they're just different.

    I would absolutely encourage anyone with a curiousity about vintage to sample with an open mind and without necessarily comparing to today's scents. Perfumers had different materials, budgetary concerns, and marketing directives in the past. Their creations didn't always have to be safe and appeal to a global public. What smells 'dated' the first time you experience it begins to smell more and more rich with subsequent samplings. Its an unfortunate comment on modern perfumes that strong, bold accords and quality materials are 'dated', and I'm not just talking about the powerhouses of the 70s-80s but pre-70s and much earlier works as well. Yes, I'm a collector, but I don't buy anythiing I don't like for the sake of collecting. I don't own anything I wouldn't wear, and having vintages gives me a lot of unique options.

    Jenson: I can appreciate how difficult it is to ebay (especially for non-US residents) and take that leap of faith with purchasing. However for better or worse that's where most of the vintage action is. There are a few sites that sell vintage bottles but they are often very expensive. I'd suggest branching out to pre 70s feminines. Many Houbigants can be found for good prices and they are good for getting to know vintage accords.

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    Good picks, Jenson! I know quite a few vintage/discontinued might cost an arm and a leg in this part of the world, and we need to thank Xmen for giving us an opportunity to acquire some true gems at affordable prices.

    The prices of vintage are exuberant only for the ones that are highly touted in discussion boards and such. A lot of earlier Lanvin and Houbigant could even be had for cheaper than run of the mill designer scents; and they are equally as good as your Guerlains and Patous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudassir View Post
    and we need to thank Xmen for giving us an opportunity to acquire some true gems at affordable prices.
    you could say that again and.. again... :wave:


    Quote Originally Posted by Mudassir View Post
    A lot of earlier Lanvin and Houbigant could even be had for cheaper than run of the mill designer scents; and they are equally as good as your Guerlains and Patous.
    more than one mentioned Houbigant now...sounds pretty interesting...could you please throw around some names/releases by Lanvin and Houbigant that one should keep an eye out for...?
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