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    Default What's so fascinating about Serge Lutens?

    I am on the fence about sampling since I am not a fan of strong perfume.
    So, in your opinion, is Serge Lutens suitable for everyday wear(Think office)? When can you see yourself wearing one?
    And I do not like words "sumptous,rich,complex". Practicality is key.
    Thanks for input.

    Please also name one of your favorites and one to avoid.
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    Default Re: What's so fascinating about Serge Lutens?

    The search function brings up a few of these threads as this has been discussed before, these may be helpful for you:

    http://community.basenotes.net/showthread.php?t=221739
    http://community.basenotes.net/showthread.php?t=216837
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    Default Re: What's so fascinating about Serge Lutens?

    From the preferences you state it is not a line that should be first in your thoughts. You sound more like a candidate for L'Artisan or the lighter Malles or Creeds. Lutens is built around orientalism and you will generally get very strong, frequently sweet-syrupy fragrances. If you still want to try some of these, I'd suggest Encens et Lavande, Chene, Gris Clair, perhaps Douce Amère.
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    Default Re: What's so fascinating about Serge Lutens?

    Thanks for the links!

    I find L'artisan a little too light, I am exploring Malle.

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    Default Re: What's so fascinating about Serge Lutens?

    Yes, some of Serge Lutens' offerings are suitable for everyday wear. The scents are strong, but they're not exactly sillage monsters so they won't invade other coworker's "air space." They don't really score well on practicality though, but they probably weren't meant to be anyway.

    Chergui IS heavy, sweet, rich, and sumptuous -- but you should try that first to get an idea of what SL is about. As for the lighter Lutens, you should try Gris Clair, Douce Amere, and Five o'Clock au Gingembre. For now, avoid Rousse, Miel de Bois, the other scents with "Bois" in the name, Santal Blanc, Arabie, Serge Noire, Datura Noir, Louve, Sa Majeste La Rose, A la Nuit, and the rest of the scents with "Fleur" in the name.

    I initially turned down SL because of its heavy and syrupiness when I started out sampling niche, but now it's one of my fave houses as I quickly got bored of light and unsatisfying scents pretty quickly. (I still appreciate Giacobetti and JCE's "transparent" works though) Anyways, you should give it a few tries.
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    Default Re: What's so fascinating about Serge Lutens?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_good_life View Post
    From the preferences you state it is not a line that should be first in your thoughts. You sound more like a candidate for L'Artisan or the lighter Malles or Creeds. Lutens is built around orientalism and you will generally get very strong, frequently sweet-syrupy fragrances. If you still want to try some of these, I'd suggest Encens et Lavande, Chene, Gris Clair, perhaps Douce Amère.
    I agree with t_g_l's opinion.

    Based solely on what i own or have owned, you may also want to try Daim Blond (which i wear to the office). Cergui may represent a boundary of sorts for you.

    Steer clear of Ambre Sultan, Datura Noir, Un Bois Vanille and Arabie, if you dont like 'em strong.
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    Default Re: What's so fascinating about Serge Lutens?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_good_life View Post
    From the preferences you state it is not a line that should be first in your thoughts.
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    Default Re: What's so fascinating about Serge Lutens?

    I'm not a huge fan of SL. His stuff is generally not my style. That said, the three I like, I like a great deal - Gris Clair, MKK, and Fumerie Turque. I don't think any of them could be called "office wear," though. Maybe Gris Clair. I also agree with others, that from what you said, you could probably safely avoid this house for now.
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    Default Re: What's so fascinating about Serge Lutens?

    I don't think you will likely have success with the Lutens line. There may be exceptions, but nothing obvious based on your preferences.
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    Agree with most of the above. Serge Lutens is a line with lush, thick, syrupy orientals. Not for everyone. Reminds me of my grandmother's asian wooden medicine cabinet.
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    ...when we wear a scent with full knowledge of it's background, we automatically have some pre-conceived notions about it and don't judge it fairly...you should smell Lutens on others to make a judgement on how it actually smells to "you"..

    i agree, they dont make a silver mountain water etal...but of what they do release, it does make an incredible impression and is well suited for daily wears... To start of with, try Chergui, Ambre sultan, Serge Noir, Musc Kublai Khan, Daim blond...
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    Default Re: What's so fascinating about Serge Lutens?

    As to the fascination, I think it lies in the complexity of many of the scents.

    Complexity does not make a fragrance less wearable or less practical to me.
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    I'm seriously considering blind-buying Gris Clair myself, actually. Does it have that same sort of austere dryness that opens Narciso Rodriguez For Him?
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    Default Re: What's so fascinating about Serge Lutens?

    I think all the SL 'outrageous exoticism' is looking kind of reactionary these days. Compared to fragrances like Le Male, A*Men an PI, Serge is the voice of discretion. I agree with those that have suggested you try Chergui, but I'd also give Ambre Sultan a try. His range is certainly very androgynous, there isn't one that is designated a true masculine. I'd say Chergui, Vetiver Oriental, Gris Clair and Muscs Koublaï Khän are the closest things Serge has done to true masculines.
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    Default Re: What's so fascinating about Serge Lutens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hide & Reason View Post
    I'm seriously considering blind-buying Gris Clair myself, actually. Does it have that same sort of austere dryness that opens Narciso Rodriguez For Him?
    I don't own NR, but I don't recall the opening being similar to Gris Clair. Putting aside the obvious advice against blind buys (advice I do agree with, esp. about something this expensive), I do think that Gris Clair would be a good addition to your wardrobe and I suspect you'll probably like it given what you currently own. Nothing you own smells like Gris Clair, but the sensibility I see in your choices seems compatible with GC if that makes any sense at all.

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    Default Re: What's so fascinating about Serge Lutens?

    I think it is mostly in the application, for me at least.
    Ambre Sultan, one spray is plenty to have a lovely experience. On a cold winter day, three sprays will keep you warm and toasty feeling.
    One or two spritz of Louve and you are fine three or more and you smell like Robitussin cherry flavor.
    I have worn some with one spritz and been elated, wore a few too many spritzes and suffered headache and nausea.
    You really need to try them to fully understand them. Many of the early scent were crafted around a cedar note, much like Dior Dolce Vita, so they are quite wearable. But do explore first.
    I feel Serge offers something for everyone, maybe you should try Féminité du Bois, now that is very wearable.
    Good luck
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    Default Re: What's so fascinating about Serge Lutens?

    Agreed. Gris Clair is really very nice and easy to wear. The suggestions others have offered are fantastic as well, especially Ambre Sultan. I'm just starting to seriously consider more Serge Lutens fragrances, as years ago I found them quite challenging.

    What's so fascinating for me is that these are complex fragrances with a lot going on in them. They are high quality and unique - I don't recall ever smelling a SL fragrance that was utterly boring or could be easily confused with a mainstream/designer.

    Another aspect, purely aesthetic, is the bell jars are really alluring and look very nice in a collection.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonyprince View Post
    I don't own NR, but I don't recall the opening being similar to Gris Clair. Putting aside the obvious advice against blind buys (advice I do agree with, esp. about something this expensive), I do think that Gris Clair would be a good addition to your wardrobe and I suspect you'll probably like it given what you currently own. Nothing you own smells like Gris Clair, but the sensibility I see in your choices seems compatible with GC if that makes any sense at all.

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    Ta for the feedback, guys. Another question: how similar is Miel de Bois to L'Artisan's Bois Farine? I've so often heard of Miel as the dunce of the SL line.

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    Default Re: What's so fascinating about Serge Lutens?

    Miel de Bois is really difficult, in my opinion.. honey wood! I can't get my head around it as hard as I try. Bois Farine, on the other hand, is quite nice - gourmand, sandalwood.. I'm not sure I can draw any parallels between the two.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hide & Reason View Post
    Ta for the feedback, guys. Another question: how similar is Miel de Bois to L'Artisan's Bois Farine? I've so often heard of Miel as the dunce of the SL line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyDG View Post
    Miel de Bois is really difficult, in my opinion.. honey wood! I can't get my head around it as hard as I try. Bois Farine, on the other hand, is quite nice - gourmand, sandalwood.. I'm not sure I can draw any parallels between the two.
    Yeah, I don't see any parallels between the two, either. I actually like Miel de Bois fine, but it's too sweet for me to wear. I also like Bois Farine alright, but I think it smells like a combination of Body Kouros and flour, and I already own Body Kouros and the flour note doesn't do much for me.

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    Default Re: What's so fascinating about Serge Lutens?

    Hmm, I might give Bois Farine another chance.. I don't remember it having a flour note. My only beef was the sillage was nil, as is such with just about every L'Artisan on my skin

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonyprince View Post
    Yeah, I don't see any parallels between the two, either. I actually like Miel de Bois fine, but it's too sweet for me to wear. I also like Bois Farine alright, but I think it smells like a combination of Body Kouros and flour, and I already own Body Kouros and the flour note doesn't do much for me.

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    This line is famous for not having a big "practicality" . Lets put it this way: you don't eat syrup everyday, right? you dont wanna smell like syrup everyday either
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    Default Re: What's so fascinating about Serge Lutens?

    Another vote for Gris Clair and Ambre Sultan. They are worth to sample and are pretty easy to wear IMO. But my personal fave has to be Cedre.

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    The only one I liked so far enough to possibly purchase but still on the fence and I feel can be worn on a daily basis to the office would be Vetiver Oriental, but I have not tried the entire line. I tried Arabie other day oh man I had to scrub that one
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    Douce Amere is probably the safest to try if you are new to the line.

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    No one's mentioned Iris Silver Mist , yet? Easily the softest SL of all I've tried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyDG View Post
    Hmm, I might give Bois Farine another chance.. I don't remember it having a flour note. My only beef was the sillage was nil, as is such with just about every L'Artisan on my skin
    Bois = wood
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    To me BF definitely has a baked bread note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stereotomy View Post
    Agree with most of the above. Serge Lutens is a line with lush, thick, syrupy orientals. Not for everyone. Reminds me of my grandmother's asian wooden medicine cabinet.
    hahaha...I was thinking about Serge Lutens, but not anymore after this. I don't want people to look at me as a moving medicine cabinet. Gosh!!!

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    The facination is that the Serge Lutens are uncompromising hardcore thick orientals that defy everything that modern, clean, and unoffensive scents stand for. I always get a badass impression whenever I sample one of these lol.

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    Default Re: What's so fascinating about Serge Lutens?

    Quote Originally Posted by scentsitivity View Post
    As to the fascination, I think it lies in the complexity of many of the scents.

    Complexity does not make a fragrance less wearable or less practical to me.
    Hear hear, I mean, I can dig it.

    There are a lot of choices here. I wouldn't dismiss the whole line w/o even trying them (personally).
    Vetiver Oriental is smooth & green, one of my favorites.
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    The Rose? spectacular. Woods? great. Complex juicy Violette? none better. Just do the research & see if there is anything you like. Don't try the sweet ones if you don't like sweet things.
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