i have read/watched Mr. Turin and Malle, both advocating storage of scents in fridge for better life.
Thread: Refrigerating your bottles
I know this has been discussed before with varying opinions, etc., but I wanted an update.
My apartment at the moment is HOT...let's say, 30 degrees (86F). I'm scared that my perfumes will be ruined. If you had to pick one of the following, which would it be:
1. Keep perfume in a dark cabinet, probably cooler than the above-mentioned temp, but sitll warm; or
2. Put in (food) fridge where it's obviously much cooler.
I don't have the option of buying a bar fridge to keep them at the optimal 20 degrees celsius (or whatever it is)...I'm curious what everyone thinks will cause more damage, too hot, or too cold.
I've always kept my fragrances in the fridge and they keep beautifully, year after year. Everything (?) stays fresher in the cold compared to heat.
I too have heard that it's better in the fridge, but I was concerned about it being *too* cold...I don't want to set the temperature higher if I'm also using it for food, etc.
How about a wine cooler (fridge). They can be adjusted to 50*-60* and are the size of a mini fridge.
OK, this is a subject with which I have some expertise. Watch sales at discount stores for the small 1.7 cu. ft. refrigerators. I have purchased them for as low as $59.00. Set them on the lowest setting and change temperature ajustment using a thermometer until you get to approximately 50 to 60 degrees F. Problem solved. Food temperature is a too cold for fragrances. Safe zone is 32 to 40 degrees F. for food. Depending on the unit you buy, annual cost is approximately $27 to $38 per year. You would usually spend more than the price of a small refrigerator on one bottle of fragrance. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." I have four fragrance friges so I have some experience to base my opinions upon.
Last edited by N_Tesla; 17th August 2009 at 08:41 PM.
Mine have been in a dedicated fridge for years with no problems at all. I've never had anything go off nor any other issues.
It's set at the highest temp. it will function at and yes, N_Tesla is right on; it'll cost you similar to one bottle of niche or bigger $ designer juice and it's very cheap to run. :-)
Last edited by evogel; 17th August 2009 at 08:43 PM.
I does not get that hot inside, but it can get into low 80s upstairs on especially hot days without AC, so I took my full bottles to the office (always 74 F). I only have about a dozen bottles so it was easy to move them.
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I usually keep them in my cupboard, well below 25 degrees. I've never really considered storing frags in the fridge.
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It gets pretty warm in my room and since I do not turn on the AC much, i chose to get a wine cooler to play safe. I have considered using my (food) fridge, but just was not comfortable with the idea of my frags stored beside sauces, packed foods etc, could get a little messy.
I keep the bulk of mine in a dedicated refrigerated wine cellar and the rest in an easily accessible refrigerator, both at about 55 F. No problem in 3 years with any fragrances going bad.
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IMO, keep them in the fridge.
You might check the yard sales in your town. Sometimes perfectly good older refrigerators are available cheap because the owner needs to be rid of it. Also check used appliance stores. I bought a frost free upright freezer once (not for fragrances) for $80.00. The seller wanted $150.00 so I left her my card with the $80.00 offer and she called me the same day. Don't be afraid to negotiate.
Last edited by N_Tesla; 17th August 2009 at 11:42 PM.
I just have them in a frosted glass cabinet in a generally dim room of the house that stays around 74 degrees. I used to have them in the closet (darker, but probably a degree or two warmer), but moved them to a more friendly-to-look-at place. I'm planning on lining the frosted glass parts of the cabinet with dark fabric, but haven't gotten to it. Maybe a window unit AC in that room to keep it a few degrees cooler could be in order - it's my office though, so I'd need pajamas and a sweatshirt to work from home. :P
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I use an old fridge at 40 degrees F. For my main collection, and rotate them out as desired. I agree with N_Tesla - a big old fridge is the bomb. Use a colder temp if it's an archive, or higher if you use them directly. The nice thing about old fridges is the presence of multiple gadgets and compartments to moderate the cooling for some frags and step it up for others.
Last summer the temperature in parts of Melbourne's suburbs hit 47º Celsius, and inside my house got to near 40º C. And every summer, the inside of my house hits 30º quite frequently.
No scents that I have on top of cupboards have ever gone off (though I keep many others inside drawers where they wouldn't have gotten as hot), and I haven't noticed any other Melbourne Basenoters complaining about ruined scents.
So I wouldn't worry about standard designer scents at the temperature of your apartment. I'm not sure about niche scents, because I keep them in a drawer. The only one I've always had out which took the full blast of heat is Etro Vetiver, and that survived fine as well.
I also keep a scent or two in the car, which often hits 50º C when parked out in the summer sun. Never had a scent ruined there either.
Last edited by Renato; 18th August 2009 at 03:11 AM.
Just make sure if you are storing perfumes long-term, that they are not in a frost-free refrigerator. They may be more dehydrating than a normal room environment, and could evaporate your scents more quickly. If that is the only refrigerator that you have, enclose your scent in a reclosable plastic bag and THEN store in a refrigerator.
I think you should be fine with the dark cabinet. It will indeed be slightly cooler in there, and if you can keep that in a closet you'll probably have it cooler still. Also no sunlight will hit any scent.
You should be fine that way.
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Those wine coolers have glass fronts yeah? It gets to suicide-inducing temperatures here (for me anyway, I went to Finland last year in their summer, had to get someone to plead with me not to just stay in the hotel indefinitely, hah!) and I would hate it if my perfumes started to go bad. I had always thought that they'd be cool things that my kids could have when I'm old and cranky. But putting them in the fridge... hmm... the bottles are all so nice looking!
Thanks for all the opinions...you often hear about heat/light damaging perfumes, but what about the cold??
Will definitely keep my eyes peeled for a cheap little fridge.
(The only difference I've discovered is that fragrances take slightly longer to develop on skin when I apply them, but that would logically be because they need to heat up a bit...)
We've been using a regular fridge for our frags for years and have no trouble at all. If in doubt, keep them on the door, which is a bit warmer than the rest of the fridge.
I think I'm just going to (for the time being) turn the fridge temp up a bit, and throw them all in there. Granted, I read this morning that temperature in Toronto should be cooling down a bit in the coming week, so maybe I won't have to.
I fantasize about one day having my own little Malle-style perfume room with glass fridges and Jean Prouve furniture. I wonder how much Andre Putman charges to decorate...
Get a good cheap fridge for the comfort of your frags.
I have a 25 year old bottle of Aramis and 23 year old Halston Z-14, which i have kept in their boxes in wardrobes in averagely the same temperatures as you have indicated. They are still as good as when i got them. Maybe designer scents are just more stable.
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