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    My girlfriend recently bought me(from e-bay)a used bottle of giorgio beverly hills for men(1984).I know that this fragrance was discontinued a number of years ago but quite recently it was re-issued and is now distributed by EA fragrances.The liquid in my bottle is a dark brown honey colour-and here lies one of my questions.Is the original giorgio for men a darker liquid than the recent re-issue? On my bottle i took a look at the underneath of the bottle and couldnt find any reference to EA fragrances-do i have a vintage bottle of giorgio? As for the fragrance itself well it is a very captivating and lingering smell and it has easily jumped into my top five fragrances alongside such notables as carons third man and antaeus but i think giorgio could even be better than those two fragrance legends.I have attached a photo of the giorgio that i now have-your thoughts and advice would be very welcome.Many thanks.
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    Default Re: giorgio beverly hills for men 1984(original)VS giorgio beverly hills for men(re-i

    the original giorgio and the relaunched are identical and both are of green colour. might be that you got an old bottle that changed colour due to age.

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    Giorgio for Men was originally produced by Fred and Gale Hayman. They named it after Giorgio, their Beverly Hills store. The house, Giorgio Beverly Hills, was sold to Avon as part of their divorce settlement. The house is now owned by P&G Prestige Fragrances. Elizabeth Arden is licensed by P&G to produce Giorgio Beverly Hills fragrances and reintroduced Giorgio for Men in 2008.

    Edit: Giorgio for Men is still my all-time favorite fragrance. The reissued version is, in my minority opinion, every bit as good as the vintage.
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    I didnt realise that giorgio is of a green colour-the bottle i have(even if it is an aged and discoloured vintage version)smells pretty damn good.i cant smell any off notes and it certainly doesnt smell bad-maybe its like a good bottle of whisky-the longer it ages the darker the colour goes-the better it gets.honestly though i dont think i have ever smelt a fragrance as sublime as giorgio for men-i really love this fragrance.amazing stuff!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wirral guy View Post
    I didnt realise that giorgio is of a green colour-the bottle i have(even if it is an aged and discoloured vintage version)smells pretty damn good.i cant smell any off notes and it certainly doesnt smell bad-maybe its like a good bottle of whisky-the longer it ages the darker the colour goes-the better it gets.honestly though i dont think i have ever smelt a fragrance as sublime as giorgio for men-i really love this fragrance.amazing stuff!!
    Usually, the dark color can be attributed to age and the top notes burned away. The frag necessarily hasn't "turned" and can still smell good. You probably are missing the top notes and when you apply the scent you go directly to the heart and base of the pyramid.

    I have some juice like this and it's still good to go. Top notes are fleeting anyway.

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    Default Re: giorgio beverly hills for men 1984(original)VS giorgio beverly hills for men(re-i

    it looks very dark to me , my bottle has a light green juice. I am happy to know that the new formulation does not differ much from the vintage formula. A winner!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoRoads View Post
    Giorgio for Men was originally produced by Fred and Gale Hayman. They named it after Giorgio, their Beverly Hills store. The house, Giorgio Beverly Hills, was sold to Avon as part of their divorce settlement. The house is now owned by P&G Prestige Fragrances. Elizabeth Arden is licensed by P&G to produce Giorgio Beverly Hills fragrances and reintroduced Giorgio for Men in 2008.

    Edit: Giorgio for Men is still my all-time favorite fragrance. The reissued version is, in my minority opinion, every bit as good as the vintage.
    Interesting info. I never knew Hayman was behind it. I'm glad to hear the juice in any formulation is good. This still can be had for really good prices as well.

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    Default Re: giorgio beverly hills for men 1984(original)VS giorgio beverly hills for men(re-i

    I own the new formulation, and I asked the same question on BN when I got it. I don't know what the original smelled like, but the current version is superb. It's now one of my Top Ten all time favorites. One of the great "powerscents" of the 1980s.

    I would trust TwoRoads' assessment that there's little or no difference b/w old and new.

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    I have both the vintage and the reformulated version...both are pretty much exactly the same color and have the same scent. This was a rare example of a fragrance being discontinued for personal reasons and had nothing to do with the ingredients or with demand...so the reissue didn't need to be changed. It looks like your vintage bottle has just changed color over time but it was never brown.

    Interesting side note: My perfume store in Beverly Hills is right behind the old Giorgio Beverly Hills store (now it is Louis Vuitton). At one point it was simply "the Fred Hayman store". These days, the alley where I throw my trash out everyday is called "Fred Hayman Way"...it was named after him about 2-3 years ago. Fred Hayman also owns a large building a few blocks away and it is all yellow and has his logo on the side. Apparantly he only does real estate now and when people call his office to ask where they can buy his fragrances, he refers them to me! He also lives just a few blocks away.
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    Default Re: giorgio beverly hills for men 1984(original)VS giorgio beverly hills for men(re-i

    ** A little interesting titbit **
    I purchased my bottle of Giorgio around the same time as the re-release .
    I won it on Ebay.com here in Australia .
    It was in a white tester box with some logo art but no colour & has no cap .
    Now ....... my cap unscrews of !!
    Yes , how many of you with original bottles new that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrios View Post
    Now ....... my cap unscrews of !!
    Yes , how many of you with original bottles new that ?
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    I have 2 bottles of giorgio beverly hills for men.1 bottle is a 50ml edt splash and the other is a 120ml edt spray.the 50ml splash bottle has no reference to E.A fragrances either on the bottle or the box-and says "made in france":the 120ml edt spray does have a reference to E.A fragrances on the bottle-and says "made in u.s.a".Am just wondering which bottle i have is the vintage version? sublime scent though!!

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    I am happy to hear that the reformulated and the vintage scent smell the same.....I hope that some of the other Houses go in this direction should they ever release anything that has been discontinued.
    Gary

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    I remember having this classic in a splash, Loved it. I miss that one

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    Hi Wirral Guy... i have a bottle of vintage Giorgio BH too from long ago. I noticed it also looks somewhat brownish (if memory serves me right, it used to be more yellow rather than green). I first used it for my high school prom in 1989. Anyway, it still smells amazing and really tenacious in terms of staying power. Given that it has moss as one of the main ingredients, i would not be surprised that vintage versions look brown (as moss generally turns brown over time... like vintage mitsuoko). anyway, i intend to buy a cheap new bottle to use as i want to save up my vintage one just for old times' sake! :-)

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    Default Re: giorgio beverly hills for men 1984(original)VS giorgio beverly hills for men(re-issue

    I remember trying the original and didn't care very much for it.

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    I just can not find warm up to this fragrance. To me it is just too harsh and jarring on my skin to the point that it feels very dated with no real redeeming qualities. The woman's version is a master piece but I feel the men's was just something thrown together or a fragrance formula that they bought at discount bargain from some perfumer.

    It is noted in an unauthorized biography by Gale Hayman that Giorgio men was rushed to market and nether Gale or Fred himself had any interest at that time with the project. The counterparts who ran their fragrance portion wanted to run to get something out to market in the men's sector.

    I myself am a Red for men - MAN.

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    Woa! I don't get it. I used to love Giorgio BH and was so desperate to get a bottle. Once I found the new re issue I was extremely disappointed because I didn't remember it being so soapy/powdery. I also noticed the longevity is no where near what It used to be. Is it me or has it always been this way ? I absolutely love everything else about it.

    I put it on and within minutes all I have is a soapy smelling wrist...what gives?

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    Default Re: giorgio beverly hills for men 1984(original)VS giorgio beverly hills for men(re-issue

    I just received my new bottle of GBH and I am extremely pleased. It seemed my last attempt at trying the reformulation might have been a cheaper version ? This juice is a dark green yellow which is how I remember it. The other was a brighter green like some vetiver formulations. I also do not smell any soapy notes in this bottle compared to my last bottle. All I smell is an amazing scent that was not ruined by the reformulation.

    I don't think I would wear it if I was 14 again in this era but for a 41 yr old who travels frequently to latin america this REALLY works. This is very "Latin America/Mediterranean sexy". It brings you back to Acapulco....white slacks white shirt and black gucci loafers w/belt...signature brass buckle.

    Very chic fragrance even now...loving it...just timing the longevity..seems fantastic.
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    I found the VIP version to be very similar to Mood Uomo, so that's another one to try if you want a variation on this theme, and I doubt MU has been reformulated (and it can sometimes be had at reasonable prices on ebay).

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    Default Re: giorgio beverly hills for men 1984(original)VS giorgio beverly hills for men(re-issue

    I never tried the original. The reissue is plenty potent for me. Very 80s.
    It's inexpensive, and some of you younger guys should pick this up for an alternate to some of today's gourmand and lighter scents.

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    Default Re: giorgio beverly hills for men 1984(original)VS giorgio beverly hills for men(re-issue

    What a difference a day makes. I am still liking this but for some reason I am going back towards guerlain vetiver. I don't know...for some reason I don't think I get the same "wow" factor with giorgio today as I do with vetiver every day. Maybe putting l' instant by guerlain on my wrist threw me off today. Something from it sent me running.

    I need a second nose.

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    Default Re: giorgio beverly hills for men 1984(original)VS giorgio beverly hills for men(re-issue

    Update:

    Then I was reading that this scent goes through various phases sometimes "changing by the hour" as one poster said it is and also "very sensitive to atmospheric conditions" commented another poster.

    I don't remember it being so crazy in the 80's. Maybe because I was...anyway now I like it again.

    I am known as the guerlain vetiver guy but I need to test this in a social setting without a doubt.

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    This fragrance burns my nostrils. I enjoy many 80's scents (Tuscany, Lacoste, Xeryus etc.) but this one is PAINFUL to wear.

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    Okay, I now have tried new and old. The new one is thicker/denser and without much if any wood notes. The original has better note separation and is more complex, though not as strong (thankfully). I'd guess there is more amber in the new one, which seems to be true of several reformulations I've tried (and so it has more of a "powdery" quality). The color of the original is a dark brown, unlike the new one. I like it but it's not a top ten for me, just in terms of personal preference. The new one is okay but I see no reason to wear it now that I have the original. I might try diluting it because it's so strong and dense, but the original is fine as is.

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    Default Re: giorgio beverly hills for men 1984(original)VS giorgio beverly hills for men(re-issue

    Where did you buy yours from and for how much ?

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    Found someone locally who was selling, so that's not relevant. You can find some on ebay, though. Ask the seller if it says EA Fragrances (that is the new one) on the label on the bottle.

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    Default Re: giorgio beverly hills for men 1984(original)VS giorgio beverly hills for men(re-issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    Found someone locally who was selling, so that's not relevant. You can find some on ebay, though. Ask the seller if it says EA Fragrances (that is the new one) on the label on the bottle.
    Thanks. Target sells it for around $50 + which is ridiculous $17 on Amazon $30 + on drugstore.com. All over the place.

    Can you believe I threw out 3 bottles from overstock.com but just re- ordered 1 from Amazon to see if it's any different....total impulse RE-PURCHASE .

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    Default Re: giorgio beverly hills for men 1984(original)VS giorgio beverly hills for men(re-issue

    I have been wearing Giorgio for Men for well over 20 years and it is in my top 3. I own and have (obviously) worn the original vintage juice, and I also own a bottle of the recent release. To my nose there is no difference and any Giorgio fans would be well advised to just buy the re-issue and save a bunch of money. In many ways I prefer the re-issue because I could score that bottle for $12.50 delivered last year with color and top notes still intact. I can't say I was able to do that on the vintage stuff.
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    Default Re: giorgio beverly hills for men 1984(original)VS giorgio beverly hills for men(re-issue

    Quote Originally Posted by drseid View Post
    I have been wearing Giorgio for Men for well over 20 years and it is in my top 3. I own and have (obviously) worn the original vintage juice, and I also own a bottle of the recent release. To my nose there is no difference and any Giorgio fans would be well advised to just buy the re-issue and save a bunch of money. In many ways I prefer the re-issue because I could score that bottle for $12.50 delivered last year with color and top notes still intact. I can't say I was able to do that on the vintage stuff.
    I agree, in that if you are not an aficionado you will likely not be able to detect any difference, but if you do, I'd guess you would like the new one more. The vintage is for those who want a more subtle, complex base, with clearly a more "natural" smell (meaning closer to essential oils). Just don't think you are getting the same thing for less than $20 for 4 ounces, as the quality and/or cost of ingredients is clearly lower, IMO.

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