Thread: Aramis Havana Reissue
OK- I have come to the conclusion that the new formulation is maybe 90% of what my original Havana bottles are like ( I have three and two Reserva ) in terms of strength and longevity. Perhaps like the original after shave. Definitely not 100% the same.
Yes, but only if you can't get a good price on the original. Sorry to disagree with my good friend kbe, but my opinion is 10% different. BTW- Original Havana after shave is better than 95% of the men's frags on the market.
Any other opinions of Havana vs. Cuba by Czech and Speake?
Is it rummy and tobacco, or is the vanilla gonna kick in big time? I think Jaime says it is weak, so is that the common experience? $48 is good if it lasts but if not, Id pay twice as much and get the Cuba.
I thought I would give my opinion for what little my opinion is worth (I've never smelled the original Havana)...here it is:
I tested the reissue last night at Macy's, and I think it's a fantastic value at $48/100ml. Very long lasting as is typical I think with all Aramis frags: I sprayed one spray to my arm at around 6 PM last night and I could still smell it this morning as a nice skin scent.
My vague impressions (I need to test it more)...spicy spicy tobacco! I get a sharp fruity cinnamon, like cinnamon and persimmon or apple, together with a dense, oily (yes, oily) tobacco note that seems like it's on fire as a hot core surrounded by a cloud of spices. The cinnamon is hot too, like the cinnamon in an atomic fireball jawbreaker, cinnamon oil. This stage lasted about twenty minutes, and then the spices eased up and just let the smooth tobacco note mellow and come forward. I'm glad the spices settle down at this point, because I think the use of cinnamon is heavy handed here and it was getting annoying. At this stage it did remind me of Feuilles de Tabac, which I wear pretty often (although FdT is silkier and smoother, I sprayed some on my other arm when I got home to test them side by side).
The drydown after about an hour is where Havana sort of turned a little strange on me...I swear it started smelling like Mexican food or taco meat, complete with flour tortilla (which I really don't understand, but I'm not kidding, there is a tortilla note in there). I wasn't wild about this stage, but I kept smelling...I could smell come green notes if I put my nose right up to my arm...I was intrigued. This is a complicated scent that definitely warrants further testing and wearing.
I think Mario Justiniani has a review of Havana in which he refers to it as a "Bay Rum Tobacco", and I think this is a spot on description of Havana. The spices in this are very much "bay rum", but the quality and complexity I smell here are in another league altogether. Imagine having this in a splash bottle and just splashing on a big handful like bay rum!
Again, I have no idea what the original smells like...but this is really good stuff.
Also, I just have to say: If anyone from Estee Lauder is reading this, you should be very proud of this fragrance (and all your fragrances, for that matter)...cheers and kudos to you for re-releasing it! I hope it is very successful for you!
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I finally tried it and perhaps my expectations were unduly inflated. Very heavy and much too synthetic for my taste. I also have Cuba Red and Havana reminds me of Red with some Patchouli added. Very loud and dated (I know it wasn't released in the 80's but it smells like it). If it were a person it would be David Hasslehoff.
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OK. The following were my posts to the SotD threads tonight. I am posting here as well for those interested who do not visit those threads or who won't see them and are interested in an opinion. I find both the reissue and the original Havana to be, other than for the first 5-10 minutes where the reissue seems somewhat brighter and sharper, so identical that it would take a better nose than mine (arguably not hard to find) to distinguish one from another in a blind smelling where the 50% chance of being correct by guess was severly reduced..
Re: SotD Monday 5 October
Tonight I am pitting the recent reissue of Havana against the 'vintage' version of Havana.
Two spritzes of vintage Havana on my right forearm, then two spritzes of the reissue Havana on my left forearm.
Note: Updates to this post will continue approximately every half hour tonight until I either get tired of doing so or go to bed.
Initial observation: The usual Havana cacophony opening for both with a blast of concentrated citrus/spice dominating a tobacco background. For the first 5 minutes the reissue is brighter, sharper by, say, 20% in opening notes. But isn't that to be expected when pitted against a vintage fragrance that has been imprisoned in the bottle for over 10 years? I think so.
20 mininutes in: No discernible difference. I cannot distiinguish between the two. They are absolutly identical at this point to my nose. Still the concentrated citrus/spice/tobacco but now deeper, less sharp and much richer and with considerably more depth of notes.
50 minutes in: Middle notes of pepper and rum beginning to appear intertwined with the citrus/spice and the tobacco notes getting stronger. Again, both vintage and reissue are so similar at this point I could not tell which is which if I didn't know where I spritzed each. This is a sleek, muscular thoroughbred fragrance, glistening in the sweat of an early evening workout it is fully enjoying.
90 minutes in: Spices, rum, and citrus conncentrate opening notes beginning to mellowing but still dominant. Tobacco somewhat stronger than in the opening notes, but so nice! Florals beginning to show: hyacinth and Jasmine according to the Basenote Pyramid but I cannot be definite about which floral I am beginning to detect, only that it is a slightly floral note in the mix now. Magnificent overall sillage for both reissue and vintage. Makes me want to bury my face in my forearm (either) and just sniff and sniff..The reissue is ever so little behind in development but with the identical mix of wonderful aromas. Myohmyohmy...I am slap-in-the-face reminded why I love this fragrance so damn much! So similar still you would think it was the same bottle.
120 minutes in: Identical development, sillage and notes .Intense. Magnificent. Heading into drydown with Smoke, Fruitwood, Tobacco, some Rum, Vanilla beginning to emerge with some Floral and definitely some Spice left to strut it's stuff. All melded together in what I call Heaven on both forearms. Stopping here because as far as I am concerned Aramis has re-created a nearly identical fragrance to their original Havana in the reissue. Draw your own conclusions. I have mine now.
Last edited by kbe; 6th October 2009 at 01:22 AM.
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Thank you so much, kbe. That should end all arguments!
Last edited by LuckyLuke; 6th October 2009 at 04:02 AM.
Damn !!! Every single time I conclude that I'm finished trying to purchase this fragrance because it has become a ROYAL PAIN IN THE ASS to actually buy a bottle, you guys have to post info like this.
Aramis is starting to piss me off.
Does anyone know when/if the Havana reissue is coming out in the UK? We're supposed to be getting 8 - Havana, Always, Life, Devin, JHL, New West, 900 and Tuscany. All present and correct and, more importantly in my collection (a big Aramis fan here). All, that is, except for Always and Havana. Always I can take or leave, but Havana's been "the one" for years and I've never managed to snag it. So when I heard about the reissue collection I got all excited, but here we are nearly 6 months later and still no sign of Havana in the UK - no high street shops, no department stores, nothing online. GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!
EDIT - emeterioy, If you are willing to ship to the UK, I will gladly take it off your hands.....
Last edited by great_badir; 4th January 2010 at 12:00 PM.
is there any internet shop that has havana? preferably one that ships to europe... i canīt find it anywhere... :-(
Haha! WOW! Thats great because Havana Reserva is alot more domestic to purchase rather than Aramis Original.
Thats great news!
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Last edited by kbe; 31st January 2010 at 02:25 PM.
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It appears that Nordstrom doesn't ship fragrances outside of the US due to shipping restrictions.
If anyone knows of a website that ships Aramis Havana to Europe please give us a heads up
I was a bit disappointed to find out that the new one smells different than the original Havana. My original bottle has distict spices in the heart notes that compliment the bay rum and counter balance the tobacco to keep it from getting too one dimensional. I find the new one very linear as if they focused all their efforts on the tobacco and rum notes. They're very similar but I can detect a clear difference. I think Havana Reserva is more similar to the original Havana than the new release is. It's still a good scent and I'm happy Aramis released it again for those who didn't get a chance to buy it before it was discontinued.
It seems, and there always will be, some bottles that are slightly different than others.
many times we will buy a fragrance and it won't quite live up to countless reviews we read about it.
I think this is due to slight inconsistency on part of the fragrance manufacturer, or the storage and or handling of a particular shipment of fragrance, that causes a noticeable difference in the fragrance composition.
Last edited by Hasupk@gmail.com; 11th May 2010 at 01:47 PM.
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To my untrained nose, the original Havana and the GC Havana pretty much smell the same... However, I do find the GC Havana to be somewhat less potent than the original. I never considered wearing the original Havana in the summer, but I think the GC Havana works quite well in warmer weather... Almost like a Havana EdC...