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    Default Miel de Bois Lovers

    Hello!
    How many of you are Miel de Bois lovers?
    Is it just me?
    Anyone already tested the bell jar Miel de Bois!
    Is it very diferent from the original?
    I think it was reformulated!
    Thank you guys!

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    I like this frag quite a bit, though I have to be in a certain "mood" to wear it.

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    Default Re: Miel de Bois Lovers

    I love Miel de Bois! My partner really hates it though, so I don't wear it that often.

    Has it been reformulated already? I haven't tested the new one yet - hopefully it won't be too unrecognizable.

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    I cannot wait for my MdB sample to arrive!

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    Default Re: Miel de Bois Lovers

    There was a thread indicating that it would have to be reformulated because there were some particular issues with one of the ingredients being safe at the levels involved. I could look it up if it would help.
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    Yup, another MdB lover here! The very intense urinous note (which I don't mind ), is due to a high concentration of phenylacetic acid, which is also on the reformulation hitlist for 2010. I would love to hear feedback from someone in Paris.

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    If this keeps up, we'll all be wearing tap water.

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    Default Re: Miel de Bois Lovers

    I got a bell jar from Paris this summer. I don't know if this was reformulated in any way, but it was plenty strong.

    I didn't get a urinal impression though, mostly a honeyed sharply woody incensey fragrance... I sort of lost interest in it though, so I kept a decant for myself and passed it on to my brother who likes it more than I.

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    Default Re: Miel de Bois Lovers

    Here is the post by zztopp in another thread in response to my question:

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    Highly toxic ingredient? Do we know what it is?

    As others have said, it is now reverted to Bell Jar status.

    zztopp: Phenylacetic acid, the high % of which in Miel de Bois is responsible for its characteristic urinous honey note, and can cause hormonal imbalance in humans. I believe the impending EU regulation will either force Miel de Bois to be discontinued or changed beyond recognition


    The thread link is: http://community.basenotes.net/showp...8&postcount=14
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    Default Re: Miel de Bois Lovers

    Ooh, another thread I wasn't meant to see.

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    Default Re: Miel de Bois Lovers

    I love Miel de Bois also. I also have never experienced the "urinous" note some describe (and complain of) so it has always been a pleasure to wear.
    Terribly sad to think that another yummy scent will join the myriad others in being desecrated to appease the IFRA. Humans have been parfuming for over a century with all those "forbidden" chemicals; i have yet to hear of someone dying due to parfum.
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    Default Re: Miel de Bois Lovers

    I am definitely getting MdB soon! This is a Lutens i really like but don't yet have.
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    I have loved MdB since it was first released and I don't get a urinous note at all. When I have worn it, females (usually), comment that it smells of those big lillies on me. I do have an oily skin, so that might have something to do with it.

    I had one or two run ins with Ms Sanchez on the old Luca Turin blog about it. She is convinced that everybody should get the urinous note that she gets. It might be the ones who don't get that note, who have got their olfactive wiring right and she hasn't. But anyway, because she gets the bad note, everybody who doesn't get it is smelling it wrong.
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    Default Re: Miel de Bois Lovers

    Miel de Bois was love at first sniff for me and I got a bottle soon after it was released. Haven't smelled the bell jar version so can't compare.

    Have never smelled anything even remotely urinous in it, to me it smells like wood saturated with honey.
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    Default Re: Miel de Bois Lovers

    Quote Originally Posted by etoile View Post
    Hello!
    How many of you are Miel de Bois lovers?
    Is it just me?
    Anyone already tested the bell jar Miel de Bois!
    Is it very diferent from the original?
    I think it was reformulated!
    Thank you guys!
    How do you perceive it to be different? Just curious if you could describe it.
    Currently wearing: Augusto by Mazzolari

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    Default Re: Miel de Bois Lovers

    I like it. "Love" would be too much, though. Not the same feelings I have towards Chergui. Miel de Bois however is more daring, more challenging. That's a quality in itself. Again, I don't get any disagreeable note. It just doesn't seem to fit the person I am now. Maybe I'll grow into it (though I own it since 2007). Have to wear it more often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scentsitivity View Post
    How do you perceive it to be different? Just curious if you could describe it.
    Well!
    If it's reformulated already and the phenylacetic acid was taken off they must have used another ingredient to get the honey note! Right!?
    If the phenylacetic acid isn't there anymore the perfume should smell diferent, I think!
    I donīt know if the juice in the bell jars are already the reformulated Miel de Bois or if itīs the same!
    I'm afraid that Miel de Bois loses itīs enchantments without the phenylacetic acid!

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    Please save the phenylacetic acid! LOL!

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    Wow I'm so disappointed! I got my samples pack from Beautyhabit today and they didn't send me Miel de Bois after telling me they had it in stock. This is the second place to screw me out of a MdB sample so I've wasted $30 USD trying to get a 1ml sample. Anyone have a sample I could buy?! Let me know.

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    The trick is to be light on the trigger and wearing it on your chest under some light clothing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cors View Post
    I love Miel de Bois! My partner really hates it though, so I don't wear it that often.

    Has it been reformulated already? I haven't tested the new one yet - hopefully it won't be too unrecognizable.
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    I donīt wear it light!
    I spray it all over me and it works for me! No cat pee! LOL
    But yes, I understand what you mean with light spraying!
    Does anyone guess for what will the Phenylacetic acid be replaced for?

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    Default Re: Miel de Bois Lovers

    Quote Originally Posted by scentsitivity View Post
    Here is the post by zztopp in another thread in response to my question:

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by scentsitivity
    Highly toxic ingredient? Do we know what it is?

    As others have said, it is now reverted to Bell Jar status.

    zztopp: Phenylacetic acid, the high % of which in Miel de Bois is responsible for its characteristic urinous honey note, and can cause hormonal imbalance in humans. I believe the impending EU regulation will either force Miel de Bois to be discontinued or changed beyond recognition


    The thread link is: http://community.basenotes.net/showp...8&postcount=14
    I wouldn't want to argue with zztopp; nevertheless, I checked a source I've used before which gibes with IFRA data. Still, the concentration recommendation cited here seems pretty high to me for it to be banned altogether:

    "Recommendation for phenyl acetic acid usage levels up to :
    2.0000 % in the fragrance concentrate."

    That's twice the current tolerance for oakmoss.
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    Default Re: Miel de Bois Lovers

    Quote Originally Posted by JaimeB View Post
    I wouldn't want to argue with zztopp; nevertheless, I checked a source I've used before which gibes with IFRA data. Still, the concentration recommendation cited here seems pretty high to me for it to be banned altogether:

    "Recommendation for phenyl acetic acid usage levels up to :
    2.0000 % in the fragrance concentrate."

    That's twice the current tolerance for oakmoss.
    You bring out a good point. I suppose the fundamental question is what the original concentration of phenyl acetic acid was in Miel de Bois and what it is currently. Assuming it has in fact been reduced.
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    I hope that they just reduce the acid!
    And not replace for another thing!

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    Default Re: Miel de Bois Lovers

    Quote Originally Posted by etoile View Post
    I hope that they just reduce the acid!
    And not replace for another thing!
    Did it appear on the list of ingredients in either new or old formulations? Just a curious question.
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    Does anyone have a bell jar of Miel de Bois?
    Can you list the ingredients printed on the box?
    Thank you!

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    Hello guys!
    Anyone more bought the bell jar of Miel de Bois?
    Do you think itīs different from the old export line flask?
    My stock of Miel de Bois is running down!
    I bathe in Miel de Bois...

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    I guess that nobody is using Miel except me :|

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    Quote Originally Posted by etoile View Post
    I guess that nobody is using Miel except me :|
    No, we are using it, but apparently you're the only one who likes to bathe in it

    I love this stuff, but I don't wear it too often and take quite easy on the trigger when I do.

    I haven't tried the bell jar juice but, although it is natural that different batches could have slight differences, I don't see the point why MdB would have been reformulated : There's no particularly hard-to-get ingridients in it, it is a cult classic as Serge is very much aware, without any possibilities to reach greater success in different (tamed) form anyway.

    I guarantee you can go for a bell jar of MdB without that much of a care.

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    Two questions. I know this perfume was reformulated but I don't know when. I heard the reformulation may have coincided around the time this went to belljar only. Does this mean that any Miel de Bois found in the export (50ml size) is the original formulation?

    My 2nd question. I know this is a very obscure Lutens and one most people dislike so this is a bit of a hopeful question but has anyone tried both the new version and old version and can compare contrast what the differences are?

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