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    Default John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    I have that the John Varvatos by John Varvatos Cologne for Men drydown smells kind of cheap. That would be such a shame since it smells so wonderful freshly sprayed.

    Can anyone deny/confirm/advise this? I'm looking to get this (scooped up a nice deal) for a 21 year old friend of mine who I think would wear it well.

    thanks!

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    Default Re: John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    I absolutely agree. The topnotes are fantastic, and it smells wonderful for about 25 minutes. Then it goes kind of powdery and it starts to fade into a mix of talcum-powder and drugstore perfume.

    I got a bottle for $15 at TJ Maxx and thought I had a steal. 25 minutes later I was kicking myself for wasting money.

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    Default Re: John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    I don't think it smells cheap, but then again i'm kind of partial to this scent. Still love it


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    Default Re: John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    That's what I thought initially, don't overapply.. two sprays and let it mingle. Good stuff.

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    Default Re: John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    I keep hearing two sides: cheap drydown and awesome juice.

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    Default Re: John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pappy View Post
    I keep hearing two sides: cheap drydown and awesome juice.
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    Default Re: John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    I confirm this to be the case, based on my experience with it. It wears magnificently for an hour or two but falls apart rather quickly. Longevity is indeed suspect but I wouldn't call the drydown cheap-smelling. The good thing is you can get nice deals on John Varvatos.
    Last edited by Diamondflame; 23rd November 2009 at 03:47 AM.

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    Default Re: John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    I didn't think much of it when I sampled it a long time ago, but I don't remember it well now. If you want a stronger base of vanilla and woods, there are Baby Blue Jeans and Adidas Victory League (in the "super cheapo" category).

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    Default Re: John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    It's a good fragrance that I still liken it a bit to DK Fuel. Strange... In seven years of being on Basenotes, I've never heard of a drydown itself being called cheap. Guess there's a first for everything. I suppose it could be due to it smelling more, how shall I say, common, due to a heavy vanilla presence. If it concerns you so much, why not get him the Vintage version? The top notes are a bit disconcerting, but the drydown is much more complex with a strong tobacco note vs. the original.
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    Default Re: John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    It's still one of my favorites. Only complaint being that it fades pretty quick.

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    Default Re: John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thebark View Post
    It's a good fragrance that I still liken it a bit to DK Fuel. Strange... In seven years of being on Basenotes, I've never heard of a drydown itself being called cheap. Guess there's a first for everything. I suppose it could be due to it smelling more, how shall I say, common, due to a heavy vanilla presence. If it concerns you so much, why not get him the Vintage version? The top notes are a bit disconcerting, but the drydown is much more complex with a strong tobacco note vs. the original.
    I never really hear of drydowns being cheap around here either, but for some reason specifically for John varvatos I hear it having a "cheap dry down"

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    Default Re: John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pappy View Post
    I keep hearing two sides: cheap drydown and awesome juice.
    Awesome Juice

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    Default Re: John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    Yeah is smells like pennies. Very cheap

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    Default Re: John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    Cacharel Nemo is a wonderful alternative.. and yeh, JV looses it's steam towards basenotes. matter of fact, i can hardly smell it on me after couple of hours.

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    Default Re: John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    "Cheap" could mean different things to different people. If you use cheap ingredients but use them well, is that "cheap?" Then there's the generic "woody/amber" drydown that is so common. Even if it wasn't cheap, a lot of people would likely say that it smells "cheap." So I think it's better to use a different term or phrase, whether that is generic, common, poorly constructed, etc.

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    Default Re: John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pappy View Post
    I keep hearing two sides: cheap drydown and awesome juice.
    On every fragrance, there is two sides.

    On some, more lean to awesome; on others more lean to cheap.

    There is no universal opinion on any fragrance.

    That stated, I enjoy John Varvatos and do not feel it smells cheap. In fact, I think it is one of the better smelling designer fragrances. But that's just me.

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    Default Re: John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    I have to say that I find all of the Varvatos line rather uninspired and synthetic on me. I can't wear them.

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    Default Re: John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    only the drydown smell cheap? it screams cheap from application until disappearance ,which is a very short cycle. i find all the varvatos line mediocre and rather cheap.

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    Default Re: John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    Quote Originally Posted by jenson View Post
    Cacharel Nemo is a wonderful alternative.. and yeh, JV looses it's steam towards basenotes. matter of fact, i can hardly smell it on me after couple of hours.
    Jenson, you have taken the words right out of my mind Nemo is a very wonderful alternative to John Varvatos. They are mot exactly the same per se, but Nemo is very worthy. I also find the longevity much better in Nemo as well.

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    Default Re: John Varvatos -- Does the drydown smell cheap?

    I don't like it

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