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    Default A better use of Cinnamon than Jacques Bogart's Witness?

    I have enjoyed the lovely use of cinnamon in Jacques Bogart's discontinued fragrance, Witness, for several years now. I haven't been able to find as nice a use of this note anywhere else, but I imagine it exists in the myriad of fragrances on the market today. Corduroy by Zirh is OK, but it doesn't have the depth/richness of the cinnamon note that Witness does. Any recommendations from you seasoned vets?

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    Although I have never smelled it (and I want to), many members have said that JHL by Aramis/Estee Lauder makes great use of cinnamon. It's apparently a balls-to-the-wall powerhouse, from what I've read here, and is a love it or hate it scent. I can't wait to try it!
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    Have you tried Carven Homme? Also, there's Diesel Zero Plus, which I haven't tried but seems to have a rich cinnamon note, judging from the reviews.
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    Lorenzo Villoresi Incensi.

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    Cartier Must De Cartier Vert Anis
    Cartier Essence de Must De Cartier
    Creed's Vintage Tabarome
    Creed's Baie De Genievre
    Caron's L'Anarchiste

    other likes that don't use it better, but still use it ok:

    L'Occitane Eau Des Baux
    Geoffrey Beene's Bowling Green

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    IF, and only IF you lightly caress the spray mechanism ONE TIME ONLY on your bottle of Joop! you'll find yourself wreathed in a slightly sweet, very warm cinnamon scented cloud for about ten hours. Two sprays and you're on your own.

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    Hot Always and Musc Ravegeur are the best to me

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    Hot Always is much more refined and a fave of mine, but I do enjoy the brutish Witness every now and then.
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    Default Re: A better use of Cinnamon than Jacques Bogart's Witness?

    Serge Lutens Serge Noire and Frederic Malle Musc Ravageur are two that come to mind.


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    Creed Baie de Genievre.

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    Witness is amongst the best !!
    nothing else like it , its unique .

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    Witness is great, but I like JHL better.
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    I agree Witness is a fine perfume, but cinnamon gets even better in:
    Patou pour homme
    Jil Sander Man Pure (discontinued, from 1981)
    and the afore mentioned:
    Villoresi Incensi
    Creed Baie de Genièvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by SillageMonger View Post
    I have enjoyed the lovely use of cinnamon in Jacques Bogart's discontinued fragrance, Witness, for several years now. I haven't been able to find as nice a use of this note anywhere else, but I imagine it exists in the myriad of fragrances on the market today. Corduroy by Zirh is OK, but it doesn't have the depth/richness of the cinnamon note that Witness does. Any recommendations from you seasoned vets?
    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrios View Post
    Witness is amongst the best !!
    nothing else like it , its unique .

    +1 and a Amen to the quality of Witness! i was surprised for sure and didnt expect such a rock solid scent.

    you may want to try Cartier Must de Parfum version. i cant think of any other designer scent coming even close.

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    Default Re: A better use of Cinnamon than Jacques Bogart's Witness?

    Several years ago I had yet to try Jacques Bogart Witness and since it was discontinued and unavailable locally I hit the net in search of a source. I found one (www.jepago.com which apparently has hit the dust) with the 30ml splash bottles of Witness priced at $7.97 so I loaded up.

    I was amazed at the quality and the rich, warm cinammon presence of Witness. My only problem with it was longevity on me, and longevity with almost any fragrance is never a problem on me. I had to reapply about every 2 hours to keep the fire lit. It is a gloriously constructed cinnamon fragrance though, and one I am going to pull out of storage for this winter's use. Thanks for the remind SillageMonger!
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    I seem to be pretty touchy about cinnamon. These two I love though:

    Diptyque L'eau de Tarocco is a lovely cologne with a cinnamon/incense heart.
    Histoires de Parfums 1876 is a dusty rose/cinnamon fiesta. Awesome stuff.

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    You can still get Witness at Fragrancenet

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    Another vote for Musc Ravageur.

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    Really, cinnamon in MR? I don't doubt it I've just not detected it in my two sniffings. Spices are so cunning that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strollyourlobster View Post
    Really, cinnamon in MR? I don't doubt it I've just not detected it in my two sniffings. Spices are so cunning that way.
    Next time you wear it, notice the middle notes...thats where the clove and cinnamon are. But I have to say that MR is so closely blended, they are difficult to pinpoint.

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    Default Re: A better use of Cinnamon than Jacques Bogart's Witness?

    Quote Originally Posted by bigshooter313 View Post
    You can still get Witness at Fragrancenet
    Witness is available for as little as $4.00 for the 1.7 oz size online but...there is always the problem of reliability of the seller and when shipping charges are added it is no longer "$4.00".

    Fragrancenet has it for $11.19/ 1.7 oz with free US shipping. They give the code on their home page. And Fragrancenet is a Basenotes advertiser..
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    Default Re: A better use of Cinnamon than Jacques Bogart's Witness?

    I've never smelled witness, but now I'm intrigued.

    Obviously I can't say if it is better, but the use of cinnamon in Dunhil Edition is no less than great!

    Give it a try.

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    Default Re: A better use of Cinnamon than Jacques Bogart's Witness?

    It depends on what you mean by better, but two other scents that feature cinnamon notes are worth mentioning: Eau d'Hermès and Patricia de Nicolaï New York.

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    Top Notes: Bergamot, Petitgrain, Lemon Tree, Lavender
    Middle Notes: Sage, Coriander, Cardamom, Cloves, Cinnamon, Jasmine,
    Geranium,
    Base Notes: Vanilla, Tonka Bean, Labdanum, Cedar, Moss, Birch, Caraway
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    Top Notes: Bergamot, Sicilian Lemon, Thyme
    Middle Notes: Cloves, Cinnamon, Black Pepper, Pimento
    Base Notes: Oakmoss, Vetiver, Amber
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    Default Re: A better use of Cinnamon than Jacques Bogart's Witness?

    And another for Musc Ravageur.

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    Default Re: A better use of Cinnamon than Jacques Bogart's Witness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Strollyourlobster View Post
    Really, cinnamon in MR? I don't doubt it I've just not detected it in my two sniffings. Spices are so cunning that way.
    my exact thoughts !
    im not picking on the frag or the people who recommend MR , but it just doesn't reek of Cinnamon .....

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    I love cinnamon in fragrances. Have you read my cinnamon thread SillageMonger?: http://community.basenotes.net/showthread.php?t=206242
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    Thanks so much for sharing your cinnamon thread with me, mikeperez23. You have a lot of interesting suggestions there. I now look forward to sampling many that you have listed!

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    Great list Mike, Good Job

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    Quote Originally Posted by SillageMonger View Post
    Thanks so much for sharing your cinnamon thread with me, mikeperez23. You have a lot of interesting suggestions there. I now look forward to sampling many that you have listed!
    Quote Originally Posted by seasoldiermarine View Post
    Great list Mike, Good Job
    You're welcome.

    Even to this day, whenever I encounter a new fragrance that features cinnamon I get so excited. You'd think I'd get burnt out on the smell of that note...but no. It still smells fantastic to me.

    My newest cinnamon prominent love is Smoked Amber by D.S. & Durga (exclusive to Anthropologie stores). Expensive, but it's just beautiful. It smells like heated cinnamon sticks. With a rather animalic sort of resinoid smell, akin to those you smell in Middle Eastern aoud oils. Check it out if you live near an Anthropologie store.
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