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  1. #61

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    OK, I'll talk through how it works on me.

    It does start with a certain freshness. I wouldn't call it "fresh" but it has a freshness, or a coolness to it. Fresh floral. Early drydown is floral and fruity and Oriental (i.e. it becomes Oriental to me, it doesn't start off that way) - it is definitely a warm frag at this point 9and, I think, overall, apart from those fleeting few moments at the very beginning). Late drydown is what I mentioned above as being to my nose a generic sweet sandalwoody drydown.

    I guessed jasmine because you said the tea might have a hint, and there are jasmine flowers on the package. Heh heh. Oh well.

    Twolf, is this a British celeb fragrance? I am gathering it's not a specific British house but that there is a more tenuous UK connection?

    Please don't give up on us, I will keep working on this!

    Another guess: orange blossom?

    And am I correct in assuming that the ginger guess was a no-go?
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  2. #62

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    OK, so here are the English houses I know off the top of my head:

    Floris
    Penhaglions
    Czech and Speake
    Creed
    Ormonde Jayne

    Although, the way our discoveries were hinted together....perhaps it's a celebuscent from an English personage?
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    Just a couple of quick questions,

    Is this fragrance listed in Basenotes?

    Are the notes you're using from BN or from somewhere else?

    Yes to plum?

    Thinking through my Brit celebrities - is it a Kylie?
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  4. #64

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    Kylie Minogue is Australian, isn't she?

    None of the Kate Moss or Posh Beckham offerings seem to fit...
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    I guess it can't be Amaranthine because I don't see honey listed.

  6. #66

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    I hope i am not making any mistakes here. You are both right in assuming an English connection, which is not the house.

    Quote Originally Posted by YouCanCallMeMo View Post
    Although, the way our discoveries were hinted together....perhaps it's a celebuscent from an English personage?
    YouCanCallMeMo you are very, very close with this.

  7. #67

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    The fragrance is in the BN directory but the notes aren't.

  8. #68

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    Not Amaranthine.

  9. #69

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    Orange blossom and ginger are not in this perfume according to the list I have from Twolf.

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    Is it Penhaligon's Bluebell? That's a British carnation-heavy scent with notes similar to what we're finding...
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    My Google-fu is weak today....
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  12. #72

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    Osmanthus? Nag champa?

    Whatever the floral is, it smells sweet to me, sweet and perfume-y. It doesn't smell green at all to my nose.

    Hmmm... something by Elizabeth Taylor maybe?
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  13. #73

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    Not Bluebell. There is no osmanthus or nag-champa. And not related to Elizabeth Taylor either. I'm sure Twolf will give you some hints as soon as she shows up but until then keep the guesses coming.

  14. #74

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    Burberry London?
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  15. #75

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    I don't think the house is English.

  16. #76

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    Gardenia?

    I think I'm starting to go a bit mad...like when you say a word over and over in your head and it starts becoming completely nonsensical. But with my nose.
    "It's now very common to hear people say "I'm rather offended by that." As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well so fucking what." - Stephen Fry

  17. #77

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    Oh, darn, I forgot that bit....OK, so associated with England/Britain/UK (Yes, I am one of those rare Americans that knows the difference between those!) but not from a British house....

    Possibly a celebuscent...For all the BBC Radio 4 I listen to, you'd think I'd have more British celebrities filed away in my head.
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  18. #78

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    hmm....I'm not sure this particular celebrity is much talked about on BBC Radio 4...
    no gardenia.

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    Ok, nobody goes mad, please? The mystery flower is ylang-ylang, and let me tell you -- the whole scent is not centered around ylang-ylang alone.

    It is a French house with a British celebrity (hehehe) connection. Right, DD?

    Although the fragrance is listed in the BN directory, there is no list of notes (just like DD pointed out) and only a few reviews. There are different note pyramids for this fragrance on OsMoz and Fragrantica, we have chosen to go by the notes listed by the house itself on their web-site.

    Now that we have figured out the main notes -- peach, freesia, lily of the valley, ylang-ylang, cinnamon, clove, sandalwood, honey and something vanillic but not vanilla per se -- would you please, sniffers, comment on the longevity and notes of the drydown?

    So far, neither the house nor the scent has been mentioned anywhere on this thread.

    Mass market? Designer? Niche?

  20. #80

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    yay, Twolf is here!

  21. #81

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    Little hint. YouCanCallMeMo unknowingly mentioned the English connection in a recent post.

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    Well, I got kind of moderate longevity, I guess. The absence of truly strong basenotes incline me to go back to drugstore or lower end department store type. It wore VERY linear on me...that mintiness lasted all of 90 seconds, and then the floral middle lasted for 3 hours or so and then just faded out, no surprises or treats in the end....

    I'd guess the vanilla is Tonka?
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    Right you are, it is tonka bean, but there is much more in it.

    Are you all guys in agreement that it is either a designer fragrance or a mass market creation?

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    Nobody particularly likes it, right? No fans at first couple of sniffs? How would you explain it: is A sort of poorly made? are the notes too jumbled? too many notes? does it use the ingredients that scream "cheap"? is it too difficult to comprehend and you would like to wear it again to understand it better? how about dabbing it on a piece of paper and see what it does there? How about finding a small sprayer and spraying it on someone else and sniffing them?

    Too many questions?
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    Well...it's too sweet and linear for my tastes. That, and it really does remind me of Estee Lauder Beautiful, and that is such an awkward teenage association for me...

    I'm desperately searching through my recent posts now....and I'm coming up kind of empty. Huh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twolf View Post
    Nobody particularly likes it, right? No fans at first couple of sniffs? How would you explain it: is A sort of poorly made? are the notes too jumbled? too many notes? does it use the ingredients that scream "cheap"? is it too difficult to comprehend and you would like to wear it again to understand it better? how about dabbing it on a piece of paper and see what it does there? How about finding a small sprayer and spraying it on someone else and sniffing them?

    Too many questions?
    I certainly don't hate it (I'm a sucker for carnation, even if it is bubblegummy and short-lived)

    To my nose, it's toploaded, as I said before. The notes are fine and smell good together, but I think that focusing on the bubblegum aspect sort of cheapens it, or at least aims it squarely at a mass market.

    I forced a coworker with very different skin than me to wear it, too. She's the one who picked out the lily of the valley and said that it smelled like a Christmas candle once the bubblegum died down.

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    Mr.R -- good for you! Ask that co-worker of yours more questions, will you? About A, of course!

    Nice job so far, guys.
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  28. #88

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    The candle thing is curious...when I googled the notes, I got two pages of candle listings and no exact matches for perfume!

    I can't believe I'm typing this...but, FCUK Her?
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    Ugh, ok, I'm going to bed...I hope you come up with something, awake people!
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    I think I am with CallMeMo re: linearity. It is (linear). The drydown is the main thing that's got me thinking mass market - it is the same drydown I feel like I've smelled in so many cheap/sweet frags lately. Is there amber in there, too? Benzoin? Are we missing notes throughout (top, middle, bottom) or in one of those in particular?

    I don't think I would call this "jumbled" - and as far as hard to comprehend, well, clearly I'm having some difficulty comprehending it (re: the ylang ylang) but it doesn't smell complex (to me anyway).

    I'll give this a spray on some paper in a bit - as of right now I've got no other humans in the house to spray. Maybe I'll try it on one of my dogs?

    This is just an underwhelming scent imo.

    OK, just sniffing my wrist again.

    Coconut? Some kind of tropical flower?

    EDIT: caramel?

    EDIT EDIT: some kind of wussy-musk?

    Also, the drydown, at the very end, is the most 'gourmand' stage of this, I think.
    Last edited by LedByMyNose; 18th December 2009 at 02:37 AM.
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