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    Default Re: Sandalwood by Art of Shaving

    Quote Originally Posted by gupts View Post
    I think that the way these people from Art of Shaving have expressed themselves, it is quite misleading and as a result almost everyone is made to believe that their Sandalwood fragrance contains 'real Mysore Sandalwood', which of course is a blatant lie since it is impossible.

    I remember starting a thread here asking for opinions of members if they believed in their claim. The link is here http://community.basenotes.net/showt...art+sandalwood

    I thought it would just add a bit of dimension since it's so relevant to the topic being discussed.
    I hope someone takes up the matter with them and they are made to clarify.
    Gupts, thanks for the link. I read through the discussion, including scentemental's panning of the marketing copy again. I think it's pretty clear that AOS DOES claim that their EDT contains "Sandalwood Essential Oil." However, they make no claim about Mysore Sandalwood. So I'd assume it contains little if any.

    However, I'm not on any quest to obtain "real" sandalwood fragrances. I just want to know that the ingredients of my shaving materials are as natural as possible. AOS claims to use all natural ingredients and repeatedly they say they do not use synthetic ingredients. I brought this question up only because some people here said that AOS sandalwood smelled "synthetic."

    On this thread Scentemental went from asserting that AOS had probably zippo Mysore Sandalwood (which he's probably right in saying) to saying that they probably just use a ton of synthetics like any other fragrance house. This would be directly contradictory to AOS's explicit claims, and I'm just asking if there is any backing for such an accusation.
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    Default Re: Sandalwood by Art of Shaving

    Quote Originally Posted by jenson View Post
    i found it very synthetic...cant imagine going thru a bottle of this one.. (AOS ie.)

    if you wish to experience sandalwood in pure form; try Lorenzo Villoresi Sandalo. i have no idea how he pulled this one off. pure genius. Tam Dao too is a na excellent recommendation.
    Synthetic or not, I really like AOS Sandalwood. I am still living on a decant and will not leave an oppurtunity to grab a cheapish bottle. Initially I remember, the eucalyptus was far too strong for my liking but I've started appreciating it now. Even the drydown which is mostly sandalwood is really nice.

    Coming on LV Sandalo, I agree with you Jen, it's just wonderful. In fact I just snagged a bottle recently. It smells very very pure, almost puts me into a meditative state. The only downside is its pathetic longevity but I keep respraying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galleddrim View Post
    AOS claims to use all natural ingredients and repeatedly they say they do not use synthetic ingredients.
    Hmmm. Maybe it turns on the definition of "synthetic"? Is there a legal definition, when it comes to advertising for fragrances? If synthetic sandalwood is made from a combination of ingredients that could each be claimed to be natural....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenFreak View Post
    Hmmm. Maybe it turns on the definition of "synthetic"? Is there a legal definition, when it comes to advertising for fragrances? If synthetic sandalwood is made from a combination of ingredients that could each be claimed to be natural....?
    Well, I dunno. I always took "synthetic" to mean anything that is synthesized in a lab and not drawn from natural sources. So aromachemicals that are synthesized at the molecular level to smell like sandalwood would be synthetic. A blend of 12 essential oils that are mixed to smell like sandalwood would be all natural, even if sandalwood essential oil isn't one of the 12 oils used. Does that make sense?
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    The Eden Botanicals website has a nice page describing the various varieties of sandalwood and the types of extraction methods and the advantages of each type. They also state quite emphatically that many, possibly most, sandalwood essential oil is doctored with synthetic chemicals. They discuss the difficulty in uncovering this fraud in labeling because synthetic sandalwood aroma chemicals are often not added by the distiller or lab who created the oil, but can occur somewhere along the distribution chain - often at the essential oil broker for the oils who then sells it to the aromatherapy essential oil brand. Eden Botanicals claims that a clever mix of pure sandalwood essential oil mixed with a synthetic is difficult to uncover and they believe this is often sold as pure essential oil. Of course Eden claims theirs is pure, but it is not pure Mysore oil and it is a CO2 distillation.

    The reason synthetic sandalwood is added is that it is much cheaper, but also that it makes a better smelling oil. People look for sandalwood oils for spiritual practice as well as for ingredients for fragrance or tolietry products. Eden Botanicals suggests that customers test the various types for themselves but that the better smelling natural sandalwood is usually the less expensive CO2 extraction method as opposed to steam extraction which is more traditional. Also, synthetic additions often smell much better. The most expensive steam distilled pure sandalwood oil is often very weak in fragrance but is much more elevating in vibration and is valued for its spiritual enhancement.

    So it is difficult to find out if any branded essential oil is a pure Mysore Sandalwood oil by smell alone, often the pure ones smell less pure than the adulterated oils. The real value of pure Mysore oil is for its vibration and the effects it has on spiritual practice and not just for its effect on the sense of smell. Often for the purposes of fragrance, a synthetically doctored sandalwood smells better than pure sandalwood EO. A CO2 extract may smell better than steam distilled. But steam distilled pure oil is preferred for spiritual practices even though it may not smell as fantastic.

    The Art of Shaving claims they use pure Indian Sandalwood and other pure essential oils. As Eden Botanicals states, these other essential oils could very easily contain sythetic additives and nobody would really know for sure short of shooting the oil for a gas chromatography mass spectography analysis. But even then if it is cleverly mixed it can still be hard to trace because it may have some real oil as ingredients.

    I am sure some of our chemists on Basenotes have more actual research about this? Anybody tested these fragrances?

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    Awakening this old thread to comment on the new unsandalwoody Art of Shaving Sandalwood after shave balm. It no longer has that warm sandalwood smell (it now smells like baby powder). What have folks settled on to replace this venerable scent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssgiris View Post
    Awakening this old thread to comment on the new unsandalwoody Art of Shaving Sandalwood after shave balm. It no longer has that warm sandalwood smell (it now smells like baby powder). What have folks settled on to replace this venerable scent?
    I haven't gotten a new bottle from AoS in over a year. Have they changed the formula? That would be a shame. Try Geo. F. Trumper. I picked up their sandalwood shaving cream at the Ede & Ravenscroft in Cambridge when I was visiting last year, and I really love it. Their "Skin Food" aftershave is also pretty good. You can find it on Amazon here:

    http://www.amazon.com/Geo-F-Trumper-.../dp/B001M0IQQ2
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    Wearing & re-testing this one again today. It's been several years since I've had this on skin.

    The overall effect is of wood, medicinal-like, and that same accord is what you smell when you spray it on & it doesn't change hours on.

    Reminds me of the 'new' juice that Crabtree & Evelyn has (Sandalwood) or Casswell-Massey for that matter. Simple. Nothing special.
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    Mike, you're getting spoiled with that vintage C&E and BdI :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    Reminds me of the 'new' juice that Crabtree & Evelyn has (Sandalwood) or Casswell-Massey for that matter. Simple. Nothing special.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    Wearing & re-testing this one again today. It's been several years since I've had this on skin.

    The overall effect is of wood, medicinal-like, and that same accord is what you smell when you spray it on & it doesn't change hours on.

    Reminds me of the 'new' juice that Crabtree & Evelyn has (Sandalwood) or Casswell-Massey for that matter. Simple. Nothing special.
    Mike, as a lover of Sandalwood you should check out Precious Woods by April Aromatics. It's 100% all natural ingredients including a good amount of real mysore sandalwood mixed in with other woods. It's wonderful if you love Sandalwood!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hunter View Post
    Mike, as a lover of Sandalwood you should check out Precious Woods by April Aromatics. It's 100% all natural ingredients including a good amount of real mysore sandalwood mixed in with other woods. It's wonderful if you love Sandalwood!
    It's so expensive ((hiding wallet))

    Quote Originally Posted by rynegne View Post
    Mike, you're getting spoiled with that vintage C&E and BdI :-)
    I have no idea what you're talking about!
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    That's one I want to try...but a little far out of my price range. I'm hoping for a possible split???

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hunter View Post
    Mike, as a lover of Sandalwood you should check out Precious Woods by April Aromatics. It's 100% all natural ingredients including a good amount of real mysore sandalwood mixed in with other woods. It's wonderful if you love Sandalwood!
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    It may not have the greatest projection or longevity but it sure delivers in that mysore woody goodness. There is a aspect where the dark creamy mysore aroma dominants the other woods for a while and it's like the mysore essential oil that we all remember. Wonderful!...... But yes it's pricey. lol

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    It smells exactly like American Crew Classic to me, which coould be had for less than $20 at your local super cuts.

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    My brother used to wear Classic, I'll have to smell it again next time I see it ShaverX.
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    In the 1970s, my sister had a mushroom-shaped candle that was labeled "Sandalwood." I miss the cheapo, head shoppy versions of sandalwood. I gave up on the concept of actual Mysore sandalwood many years ago. Agree with sentiments expressed elsewhere in this thread: the synthetic stuff might actually smell better.

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