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    Default Helmut Lang - Cuiron Alternative

    Hi everyone, new to this forum.

    I have been exclusively using Helmut Lang Cuiron since it was introduced, and now I am slowly but surely running out of supply. I only wear cologne at partys and special occasions, otherwise I use a odourless antiperspirant. It's my absolute favourite, and everytime i try another cologne, it reminds me of how good Cuiron is and how bad the competition is.

    Since I have never really used any other cologne, I was wondering if anyone could suggest a feasible alternative?

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    It really is very good, isn't it? Unfortunately, I can't think of a close alternative...it is absolutely unique. There are alternative good leather scents, but none has the same tart, crispy feeling that Cuiron has.

    My other favorite "pure" leather is Tom Ford's Tuscan Leather, but while it's very good, I consider it the smooth, velvety counterpoint to Cuiron, rather than a close peer.

    If you are able, the thing to do might just be the drop the cash on a bottle from Ebay. It'll cost about has much as Tuscan Leather anyway.
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    Default Re: Helmut Lang - Cuiron Alternative

    Good call with Tuscan Leather.

    My retired Cuiron always reminded me of the discontinued Ted Lapidus pour Homme (1978) There must be a few available somewhere...

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    Stetson Rich Suede

    I'm not joking.

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    heeley's fine leather may provide some relief

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    Default Re: Helmut Lang - Cuiron Alternative

    Quote Originally Posted by SirSlarty View Post
    Stetson Rich Suede

    I'm not joking.
    Agreed!!!
    It's like Cuiron minus the plum notes and the light animalic edge at the drydown.
    I sold off my Cuiron and made some money, knowing Stetson Rich Suede would be there to scratch the itch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirSlarty View Post
    Stetson Rich Suede

    I'm not joking.
    Have heard that before but never got to try it.

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    Where have you found Rich Suede?

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    Default Re: Helmut Lang - Cuiron Alternative

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde65 View Post
    Where have you found Rich Suede?
    Most drug stores ought to have it. I picked up a few bottles at Rite-Aid and I spotted a few at Walgreens and Target a few months ago.

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    Everlast Original 1910, but of course !

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    Default Re: Helmut Lang - Cuiron Alternative

    Quote Originally Posted by SirSlarty View Post
    Stetson Rich Suede

    I'm not joking.
    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel View Post
    Agreed!!!
    It's like Cuiron minus the plum notes and the light animalic edge at the drydown.
    I sold off my Cuiron and made some money, knowing Stetson Rich Suede would be there to scratch the itch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    Everlast Original 1910, but of course !
    This stuff must be the chameleon of the fragrance world given the number of times Bigsly suggests it as a replacement for other frags.
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    Default Re: Helmut Lang - Cuiron Alternative

    Quote Originally Posted by surreality View Post
    This stuff must be the chameleon of the fragrance world given the number of times Bigsly suggests it as a replacement for other frags.
    LoL...I couldn't have put it better.

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    Cuir d' Oranger by Miller Harris.

    Check out the reviews.
    If it sounds intriguing, order a decant.
    If you're out of control with enthusiasm, buy it blind!
    If you're too apathetic, confused or indecisive, wait for me to win the lotto.

    ( I promised a bottle to all Basenotes members who gave Cuiron a glowing review. I think they might like it even better )

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    Default Re: Helmut Lang - Cuiron Alternative

    hot leather imo smells very similar
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    Etienne Aigner's In Leather Man -Suede Edition .
    http://www.basenotes.net/ID26128962.html

    So smooth,so soft...
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    Let's be fair, though. The first thread I created on BN about EO 1910 I called it horrible. The strong grapefruit up top and the leather in the base was too "rough" for me at that time, plus I smelled it up close, which is not a good idea with this frag. As my perception developed, I came t appreciate both the grapefruit and the leather notes, at least in this particular formulation. I think I prefer the Daim Blond type of leather better (such as in DKNY Fuel for men or Histoire d'Eau), but EO 1910 has a solid place in my rotation. However, when I recommend it, I'm doing so because it is versatile (as Burr himself notes), "natural," nicely balanced, dynamic, etc. And it's selling for ridiculously low prices. I can't think of another "true leather" frag that is this good and this cheap.

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    Default Re: Helmut Lang - Cuiron Alternative

    wow! thanks for all the answers! I am definitely gonna try out some of these. But I'm thinking about going non-leather, does anybody have any suggestions for a non-leather cologne that matches cuiron in quality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazlo View Post
    wow! thanks for all the answers! I am definitely gonna try out some of these. But I'm thinking about going non-leather, does anybody have any suggestions for a non-leather cologne that matches cuiron in quality?
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    Default Re: Helmut Lang - Cuiron Alternative

    Mario, I enjoy Cuiron, so I'll put Cuir d'Oranger on my test list...

    Welcome to Basenotes, Lazlo. Suggest you start off with samples, at least to figure out your tastes & preferences.

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    Best alternative to Cuiron by smell is Piper Leather by Illuminum.
    But not in price, sorry...
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon_fish View Post
    Best alternative to Cuiron by smell is Piper Leather by Illuminum.
    But not in price, sorry...
    Thanks for the heads up on that one, I've been wanting to try some of their fragrances.

    The closest I have smelled to Cuiron is G11 by Il Profumo. (And the association struck me immediately when I tried G11, although it's entirely by memory since I haven't worn Cuiron since about 1998. I wish I could test them side by side to see if I'm right.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by arlecchino View Post
    ...The closest I have smelled to Cuiron is G11 by Il Profumo. (And the association struck me immediately when I tried G11, although it's entirely by memory since I haven't worn Cuiron since about 1998. I wish I could test them side by side to see if I'm right.)
    There is certainly a similarity to G-11 that I smell as well. I gotta pull that one out one of these days. Its been forever since I have worn it. Being an EDP, it wears closer to my skin than other scents, but then again so did Cuiron.
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    I can't think of something that resembles the characteristics of Cuiron. It's mesmerizing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hedonist222 View Post
    I can't think of something that resembles the characteristics of Cuiron. It's mesmerizing.
    You're mesmerizing

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    Quote Originally Posted by scent View Post
    You're mesmerizing
    hahaha you couldn't resist not posting could you.

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    Several reviews of Jean Luc Amsler Prive Homme state that it is reminiscent of Helmut Lang Cuiron.

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    Default Re: Helmut Lang - Cuiron Alternative

    I am in Japan for a couple of weeks and brought my bottle of Cuiron to wear while I am here--it just seems right, somehow. The plum note is very Japanese, and somehow the paired down leather seems to be a good fit. I am now in a ryokan in Kyoto and happy to have Cuiron along for the ride......

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    Cuiron was unique, no alternative to me!
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    Default Re: Helmut Lang - Cuiron Alternative

    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Maillard View Post

    I can't access the page, can you please cut and paste the text here?

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    Default Re: Helmut Lang - Cuiron Alternative

    Weird, I can't get on that thread either. It seems to have been locked or disappeared. The general idea is that Cuiron was being re-released.

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    Everything about the rerelease is gone online. Maybe it was a hoax.

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    I was wondering what the hell happened to that thread? Was it a joke? Or did they let the cat out of the bag accidentally?

    I've been hearing rumors of a re-release for a few months already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtsb View Post
    Weird, I can't get on that thread either. It seems to have been locked or disappeared. The general idea is that Cuiron was being re-released.
    It said all three Lang scents were being re-released at Lang boutiques, the official site and luckyscent....October 10.

    Then it disappeared.

    A basenotes scandal!

    Edit: looks like every blog that had this story today took it down.

    Can a mod chime in on this?
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    Default Re: Helmut Lang - Cuiron Alternative

    Too late to reproduce it, unless they have the exact original formulation and have quality synthetic substitutes for what has now been banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aphexacid View Post
    It said all three Lang scents were being re-released at Lang boutiques, the official site and luckyscent....October 10.

    Then it disappeared.

    A basenotes scandal!

    Edit: looks like every blog that had this story today took it down.

    Can a mod chime in on this?
    Truly bizarre... if it were just a hoax, you would think the blogs would say "I was wrong about this, I heard something false, it was a hoax."

    I wonder if they were contacted by a Helmut Lang rep and asked to remove references to the re-release... I'm tempted to start a new thread and see what happens.

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    Well, it's live on Helmut Lang's website

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    Quote Originally Posted by cytherian View Post
    Too late to reproduce it, unless they have the exact original formulation and have quality synthetic substitutes for what has now been banned.
    Banned materials? All three scents were the epiphany of synthetic perfumery! Plus none has banned anything since 20 years...
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    Default Re: Helmut Lang - Cuiron Alternative

    I just ordered samples of all 3 Helmut Langs from Luckyscent.

    I'm especially anxious to compare the new Cuiron to the original.
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    Default Re: Helmut Lang - Cuiron Alternative

    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Maillard View Post
    Banned materials? All three scents were the epiphany of synthetic perfumery! Plus none has banned anything since 20 years...
    Well if that's the case, that there weren't any natural ingredients used that are now banned, then they should have been able to recreate Cuiron as it was... unless they decided to "refresh" the formulation. Actually I wouldn't mind it if they beefed up the sillage and longevity.

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    Just ordered 100ml bottle!!

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