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    Default The Most Mainstream Scent by Each Niche House

    I don't know if this has been done before, but I wondered: which scent by each niche house would most easily fit alongside the mainstream scents now found at major department stores? For example, Creed's representative would either be Creed Green Irish Tweed or Original Santal, IMHO.

    If they each had to put out one scent at these stores, and it had to sell well to keep their firm afloat, what would they choose as the most accesible and easy to sell?

    Creed has a few.
    Bond has many.
    Lutens? Hmmm...
    L'Artisan?
    The list goes on and on...just one to generate sells and save your company. Some hypothetical fun, that's all.

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    Almost all of the Bond's AFAIC.

    From the Lutens line, Five O'Clock Au Gingembre and the latest formulation of Un Bois Sepia smell rather common to me.

    Commes des Garcons - Play, the Energy series.

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    This dichotomy between niche and mainstream is largely illusory.

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    OK, Slim. That was profound...LOL!

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    Creed: Silver Mountain Water

    Fredrick Malle: Musc Ravageur

    Tom Ford: Tobacco Vanille

    Bond No 9: Riverside Drive

    Amouage: Lyric Man

    Serge Lutens: Chergui

    Knize: Knize Forest

    Tauer: L'air du désert marocain

    I think the above would sit nicely in the department store if push came to shove for the niche fragrance houses.

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    Serge Lutens - Nuits de Cellophane - smells good but quite ordinary in some ways.
    Bond No. 9 - Scent of Peace - smells mainstream to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckW View Post
    OK, Slim. That was profound...LOL!
    +1 Slim are you some sort of spiritual leader of the fragrance world that I haven't heard of yet? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimPickins View Post
    This dichotomy between niche and mainstream is largely illusory.

    -Slim
    In some sense this is absolutely true, in others it is not. I would say the relevence of whether a fragrance is niche or designer is illusory. A fragrance can be good and can be enjoyed regardless of who makes it. However there is a distinct dichotomy in the sense that niche houses aren't marketing their products to a global consumer base that by and large isn't interested in uniqueness. Niche houses thus are free to be more bold and creative then a designer house for whom bottom line is the paramount concern.

    Thus I interpret the original post as asking which niche scents could be confused as being desgner, with 'designer' meaning 'common, bland, or not-unique.' [This does not mean I'm getting down on designers, many of which are excellent and among my top faves.]

    Thus:

    Serge Lutens: Un Bois Sepia, Nuit de Cellophane
    PG: L'Eau de Circe
    L'Artisan: La Chase aux Papillions
    Amouage: Silver Cologne
    CdG: 888, Citrico
    Bond 9: Eau de New York, Coney Island, Little Italy, more...
    Floris: Cefiro

    There are more these are just the ones on the top of my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hunter View Post
    Fredrick Malle: Musc Ravageur

    Amouage: Lyric Man

    Serge Lutens: Chergui

    I think the above would sit nicely in the department store if push came to shove for the niche fragrance houses.
    Which designer(s) do you think would put out any of these...especially Lyric Men (or which designer scents are similar)?

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    I really could see Amouage Reflection selling well in Sephora if they dropped the price by 3/4 of the current price. It smells like an Azzaro creation. I don't agree on Lyric, the accords are way too complex and the ingredients smell extremely pricey.I think that MR smells a lot like Shalimar, so it could easily sell as a department store Guerlain. Chergui, while the ingredients don't smell outrageously expensive could possibley be a Aramis release, if Aramis took more risks like they did in the Devin/Havana days.
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    Montale: Fougères Marines

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hunter View Post
    Creed: Silver Mountain Water

    Fredrick Malle: Musc Ravageur

    Tom Ford: Tobacco Vanille

    Bond No 9: Riverside Drive

    Amouage: Lyric Man

    Serge Lutens: Chergui

    Knize: Knize Forest

    Tauer: L'air du désert marocain

    I think the above would sit nicely in the department store if push came to shove for the niche fragrance houses.
    Can't say I agree necessarily with Chergui or the Tauer...both seem relatively unique and niche-y to me (ya...niche-y's a word).

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofresh View Post
    Can't say I agree necessarily with Chergui or the Tauer...both seem relatively unique and niche-y to me (ya...niche-y's a word).
    I'm not sure I agree with Chergui as the pick for Serge Lutens either, but LADDM is easily the most "mainstream" of Tauer's scents. LADDM is definitely a bit out there, but not as much as his other scents.

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    > Creed Erolfa, Epicea, SMW, and GIT.
    > 2/3 of the Boadicea the Victorious line
    > Montale Vanille Absolu (smells like B&BW vanilla)
    > the Mark Buxton line
    > Le Labo Neroli, Bergamot, Fleur d'Oranger, and Jasmine

    There are more I'm not thimking of now..

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    Quote Originally Posted by heynow View Post
    > Creed Erolfa, Epicea, SMW, and GIT.
    > 2/3 of the Boadicea the Victorious line
    > Montale Vanille Absolu (smells like B&BW vanilla)
    > the Mark Buxton line
    > Le Labo Neroli, Bergamot, Fleur d'Oranger, and Jasmine

    There are more I'm not thimking of now..
    I didn't catch the similarity between the Montale Vanille Absolu and the B & B W Vanilla . Oh well- vanilla is vanilla I guess !
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    Davidoff - Cool Water. Oh wait...

    Ok, on a more serious note :

    Martine Micallef >> Vanille Oud (oud? where? smells like your average oriental )
    Parfumerie Generale >> Cologne Grand Siecle (the classic eaux de cologne - rather mainstream for a PG)
    Parfums de Nicolai >> New York and Balle de Match (instantly recognizable designer level lavender and a mildly interesting grapefruit-incense)

    I agree with Montale Fougeres Marines and would add Montale Red Aoud which is basically Escada Magnetism for women with about a teaspoon of Oud added.


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    The answer seems pretty simple to me: think of the most popular creation from each niche house and Bob's your uncle (but only when he has some spare time).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysticknot View Post
    I didn't catch the similarity between the Montale Vanille Absolu and the B & B W Vanilla . Oh well- vanilla is vanilla I guess !
    My apologies for the confusion: Montale's Vanille Absolu is remarkably similar to Bath & Bosy Works Vanilla Noir - except the B&BW is better. My point was merely that this Montale is very plain and not distinguishable from any other simple vanilla, except the price.

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    I guess I just need some clarification about what people think makes a niche fragrance smell niche.

    And I use the term "niche" strictly as a business related term - to refer to a company that produces only fragrance projects as opposed to a company that also produces clothing, handbags, lamps, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimPickins View Post
    I guess I just need some clarification about what people think makes a niche fragrance smell niche.

    And I use the term "niche" strictly as a business related term - to refer to a company that produces only fragrance projects as opposed to a company that also produces clothing, handbags, lamps, etc.

    -Slim
    Interesting thought, as per usual!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Royal View Post
    Montale: Fougères Marines
    I could see that. Also:

    MPG Centaure
    Penhaligon's Racquets Formula
    BPAL: Wilde for a masculine, Ghost or Midnight for a feminine.

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    Creed- GIT
    ADP- Blu Mediterraneo

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    MPG- Garrigue
    L'Artisan- L'eau de L'Artisan
    Creed- Silver Mountain Water
    Serge Lutens- Un Bois Sepia
    Parfumerie Generale- This isn't as easy as the rest........ Aomassai?
    Penhaligons: Endymion without a shadow of a doubt.
    Amouage: Reflection
    Bond no. 9: Pick your favorite.
    Kilian- Prelude to Love
    The Different Company- Un Parfum des sens et Bois
    Divine- L'Homme de Couer
    Eau d'Italie- Magnolia Romana
    Frederic Malle: I guess Angeliques sous la Pluie, but I don't really see any being suitable for the mainstream market.
    Armani Prive- Vetiver Babylone
    Le Labo: Bergamotte 22
    Lorenzo Villoresi- Uomo or Sandalo
    Martine Micallef- Avante Garde
    Montale- Red Vetyver
    Nasomatto- Absinthe
    Ormonde Jayne- Man
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtgprox05 View Post
    Martine Micallef- Avante Garde
    Irony.

    From my limited experience:
    L'Artisan Chasse aux Papillons or L'Eau de l'Ambre
    Serge Lutens Nuit de Cellophane
    Penhaligon's Quercus
    Nasomatto Narcotic Venus
    Villoresi Teint de Neige

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    I'd say Creed GIT, MPG Garrigue, Montale Fougeres Marine & Amouage Ciel Man unlikely to frighten anyone too much . . . almost variations on a theme.

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    I'm adding Nasomatto's Narcotic Venus- yes it's a good big floral but very everyday mainstream . Smells exactly like Marc Jacobs' Essence but a ton more expensive.
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    for lutens un bois sepia for sure

    for amouage IMO no way lyric but any of the aquatic ones: arcus, cirrus.
    also tribute, which really caves into traditional masculine accords compared to the rest of their stuff

    for LV I would guess the acqua di colonia but have never smelled it, would disagree to sandalo but the shoe fits uomo

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    Tom ford is niche?

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