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    well ... what do you think a masterpiece is, in the world of fragrances?
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    lol what about a fragrance?

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    Whichever frag you designate to be a masterpiece, is a masterpiece Paco


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    In my opinion, any frag stylish and classic enough to stand the test of time.

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    1.“Masterpiece (or chef d'œuvre, Meisterstück, Meisterwerk) in modern usage refers to a creation that has been given much critical praise, especially one that is considered the greatest work of a person's career or to a work of outstanding creativity, skill or workmanship.
    Originally, the term masterpiece referred to a piece of work produced by an apprentice or journeyman aspiring to become a master craftsman in the old European guild system…”
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    The highest ranking level chosen by Turin and Sanchez for fragrances. See Perfumes The Guide, A-Z

    ***** = ‘masterpiece’.
    **** = ‘recommended
    *** = 'good
    ** = ‘not recommended'
    * = ‘avoid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amit View Post
    Whichever frag you designate to be a masterpiece, is a masterpiece Paco
    erm i think you are confusing me with someone eles

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    Paco
    same with you, i think you think i am someone eles...

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    A masterpiece is impossible to decipher to an unanimous decision..thus it can only be constructed based on Note Structure...though the scent is a totally different topic...the scent, for me, is all about individual likings. Thus a perfume can only be considered a masterpiece to the kindred couple, the fragrance and the owner. Also, with this in hand..it's impossible for an argument to be settled down if one is trying to convince the other that "This fragrance Is better" etc,etc, it only proves specious and eristic.

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    A masterpiece is a perfume that is considered a masterpiece by a good number of serious perfume lovers. This is the usual definition. But each person should choose his or hers own masterpieces. I mean, if you think a perfume is not a masterpiece, then it is not. End of story.

    The truth is that what really matters is your own appreciation. If the fragrance doesn't touch you, it doesn't matter if it touched everybody else. You should be informed by the opinions of others, and try to learn and develop your senses as much as possible. But in the end, what really matters is your own experience.

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    To me a masterpiece is a perfume that has a composition which displays a definite perfumistic concept which is executed with balance and development, wherein the structure of the scent displays the perfumer's concept while maintaining an aesthitic that is wearable, pleasing and somewhat challenging. A masterpiece is often ahead of its time and tends to set trends in the perfume industry for decades to come, while not always being popular in its own day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclmind View Post
    To me a masterpiece is a perfume that has a composition which displays a definite perfumistic concept which is executed with balance and development, wherein the structure of the scent displays the perfumer's concept while maintaining an aesthitic that is wearable, pleasing and somewhat challenging. A masterpiece is often ahead of its time and tends to set trends in the perfume industry for decades to come, while not always being popular in its own day.

    ^ That is a masterpiece.
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    For me Egoiste is a masterpiece.
    I have never smelled anything that I liked better, but I must confess that I am not an expert sniffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclmind View Post
    To me a masterpiece is a perfume that has a composition which displays a definite perfumistic concept which is executed with balance and development, wherein the structure of the scent displays the perfumer's concept while maintaining an aesthitic that is wearable, pleasing and somewhat challenging. A masterpiece is often ahead of its time and tends to set trends in the perfume industry for decades to come, while not always being popular in its own day.
    Hanging the bar as high as that, we don't have all that many to choose from, do we?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nexus6 View Post
    For me Egoiste is a masterpiece.
    I have never smelled anything that I liked better, but I must confess that I am not an expert sniffer.
    You don't have to be an expert sniffer to know what you like best, Nexus6. "Above all, a perfume has to be beautiful..." (Guy Robert, if I am not mistaken) assessing the aesthetic values of a perfume can never be an objective process only.

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    Thread : "Above all else, a perfume must smell good" - source?/ June 2008

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    Guy Robert (in conversation): "Un parfum doit avant tout sentir bon".
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    Impossibly subjective.

    If we were walking through a museum gallery of oil paintings, how would we define a masterpiece then?

    The definition seems to hinge on the opinion of people who (1) have a broad and deep understanding of the medium, and (2) think it's really really good.

    Half joking: It seems to me that a major difference between paintings and perfumes is that with paintings, the majority of laymen defer to the opinions of experts, whereas with perfumes, almost everybody thinks that they are an expert, while at the same time, professed experts are either canonized or derided mercilessly, with little or no middle ground.

    My personal attitude is best summed up by a winemaker I once talked to, who said: "If you like a wine, it is good...if you hate it, it is sh*t. That's all that matters."

    That said, out of my wardrobe of 30 or so fragrances, I seem to wear/love L'Air du Desert Marocain more than the others. It's beautiful, distinctive, just complex enough to remain interesting over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by narcus View Post
    Hanging the bar as high as that, we don't have all that many to choose from, do we?
    Many excellent, top notch, five star fragrances out there; but a masterpiece? IMO, the bar should be high for such a label!

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    ^ That is a masterpiece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclmind View Post
    Many excellent, top notch, five star fragrances out there; but a masterpiece? IMO, the bar should be high for such a label!
    Yes, the title masterpiece is thrown around cheaply nowerdays and I personally believe it should be more exclusive in its definition. Yes each person will have his or her own personal interpretations of a good scent but the general guiding principles on how to judge if you have come across a masterpiece should be the same.
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    Something that smells really good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken_Russell View Post
    In my opinion, any frag stylish and classic enough to stand the test of time.
    Correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclmind View Post
    To me a masterpiece is a perfume that has a composition which displays a definite perfumistic concept which is executed with balance and development, wherein the structure of the scent displays the perfumer's concept while maintaining an aesthitic that is wearable, pleasing and somewhat challenging. A masterpiece is often ahead of its time and tends to set trends in the perfume industry for decades to come, while not always being popular in its own day.
    Every one of those factors is absolutely true. I would also add:

    A masterpiece gets every single detail right; there is not so much as a minor mis-step. The concept, the name, the typeface, the logo, the packaging, the bottle, are all powerfully evocative, beautiful, and consistent with the fragrance's style. The scent is, first and foremost, beautiful, but also displaying complexity, balance, and an interesting development through time. (Some people would also add longevity, strength, and sillage as factors.) The fragrance is unique, either totally groundbreaking, an example of a new type, or, as with many classic Guerlains, an improvement upon an existing accord.

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    Foetidus's reviews are all masterpieces.
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    A masterpiece gets every single detail right; there is not so much as a minor mis-step.
    Hope you don't mind a slightly dissenting opinion about the nature of masterpieces in general rather than perfume in particular. Some of the world's legitimate masterpieces do contain missteps, momentary stumbles, a detail or two gone briefly awry, but the masterpiece corrects those missteps, somehow rights itself, and emerges better and richer for that. A touch of the banal never really hurts the great ones.

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    High-quality ingredients, no "off" notes, not too chemically (unless that was actually the pefumer's intent), distinctive, unique. I never buy the "must stand the test of time" argument. The world's greatest works of art were no less "masterpiece" five minutes after they were created than they were 500 years later. A masterpiece is a masterpiece.

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    Any, and all masterpiece fragrances are decided solely by the wearer.
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    I believe all art is subjective, and that includes fragrance.

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