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  1. #61

    Default Re: best oud = agarwood scents ???

    From this day forward, I will recommend Ajmal's Lujain to anyone looking for an introduction to oud, especially the stinky kind.
    I don't know if there is real oil inside or not (they claim it's real, cultivated) but I don't care. It smells very good, and it's very affordable.

    Green, tart, hay and fecal.
    45 bucks for 25ml edp

  2. #62

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    any other suggestions?
    Currently wearing: Sauvage by Christian Dior

  3. #63

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    The smell of oud varies and can be very harsh, and sometimes not so much so. I've tried many from Montale's Aoud line and a few other ouds from other houses. As far as Montale goes, I really enjoy White Aoud (saffron/oud) and Black Aoud (roses/oud). I recently tried Royal Oud by Creed which was also very pleasant. I think it is just a matter of getting your hands on some samples and giving them a test run.
    Currently wearing: White Aoud by Montale

  4. #64

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    First of all with respect commarades oud is nearly vanishing by masssive poching untill the aragrwood specie has been included in Cites appendix.
    Second,oud oil can be distilled from infected part of the tree which occurs by the time.
    Thirdly,Agarwood trees are being infected synthetically to produce more fragrant material.
    What we may have as ouds todays are as follows:
    1/Oud oils made from low quality agarwoods .They are on sale as true agarwood oils however they are not because the oil being distilled is not mainly from infected part.
    2/Synthetic oud oils which are Agarwood bases meant to reconstitute Agarwood scent.They are made generally from Aroma chemicals.
    3/Agarwood reconstitutions The most famous of them are Givaudin's Black agar and Fermenich oud Blend
    Widely used by french Perfume houses to make their floral orientals or so called ouds destned to the western markets.
    4/ Arcadi boix Camps agarwood oils which better then the two latters .He spent around 30 years on research of agarwood captive moleculesto end up reconstituing many oud oils by almost 95 percent.
    5/True artisanal oud oil ,which is found in small batches or amounts made by a very few local distillators and adventurous entrepreneus like ensaroud.It is costful however it merits for its originality.

    M7 aphrodisiatic compain and and weird brief "Torrid,male,and extremly sexy"made Note that is quality is known by connesseurs only and the are
    Jacques Cavallier and Alberto Morillas, use Karanal boosted by mandarine with bitter and sweet facettes of myrrhe ,a cherry twist which remind me of le Boxeuses of the dreamer Serge Lutens. A a fumugating caramal note évoquing the fume of oud with hints of castoréum and indole to round it well .
    An impolite marketing compain.
    A well recieved perfume.
    an untrue oud by the end.
    French perfumery .

  5. #65

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mohamed1988 View Post
    First of all with respect commarades oud is nearly vanishing by masssive poching untill the aragrwood specie has been included in Cites appendix.
    Second,oud oil can be distilled from infected part of the tree which occurs by the time.
    Thirdly,Agarwood trees are being infected synthetically to produce more fragrant material.
    What we may have as ouds todays are as follows:
    1/Oud oils made from low quality agarwoods .They are on sale as true agarwood oils however they are not because the oil being distilled is not mainly from infected part.
    2/Synthetic oud oils which are Agarwood bases meant to reconstitute Agarwood scent.They are made generally from Aroma chemicals.
    3/Agarwood reconstitutions The most famous of them are Givaudin's Black agar and Fermenich oud Blend
    Widely used by french Perfume houses to make their floral orientals or so called ouds destned to the western markets.
    4/ Arcadi boix Camps agarwood oils which better then the two latters .He spent around 30 years on research of agarwood captive moleculesto end up reconstituing many oud oils by almost 95 percent.
    5/True artisanal oud oil ,which is found in small batches or amounts made by a very few local distillators and adventurous entrepreneus like ensaroud.It is costful however it merits for its originality.

    M7 aphrodisiatic compain and and weird brief "Torrid,male,and extremly sexy"made Note that is quality is known by connesseurs only and the are
    Jacques Cavallier and Alberto Morillas, use Karanal boosted by mandarine with bitter and sweet facettes of myrrhe ,a cherry twist which remind me of le Boxeuses of the dreamer Serge Lutens. A a fumugating caramal note évoquing the fume of oud with hints of castoréum and indole to round it well .
    An impolite marketing compain.
    A well recieved perfume.
    an untrue oud by the end.
    French perfumery .
    Very interesting and helpful post Mohamed. Thank you!

  6. #66

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    I'm not very much into oud (to be honest, I find it a difficult note to appreciate), but among the things I do have, I'd probalby say TDC Oud Shamash or the obvious Montale Black Aoud. On a sidenote, I've noticed that my GF, who is not into fragrances at all, enjoys the smell of oud on me more than I enjoy wearing it (she loves both of the above)...

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    Oud Wood, hands down!

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    TDC OUD Shamash or Montale black oud all these ouds meant to reintroduce the west to the mystic oud oils However in fact they were destined to the middle eastern markets where oud is deeply rooted in perfuming traditions.
    Few where the perfumery houses which used real agarwood oil in their so called oud verisons and one of the latters TDC OUD Shamash which used a low quality Oud butter from Laos costing more than 14000 Euros per Kilo and sold by biolandes france company .
    I have tried the Laos oud butter once and it was absolutely stinky and I am sure that it is in very low quantity in OUD Shamash for three reasons:
    1/Cost reduction purpose.
    2/Risk of corrupting the blind,and for this reason it was over layed by spices,rose ,nagramotha(cypriol),vanilla,Toulou Balsam,and ambry notes.
    3/TDC's engagement for quality ingredients which I do respect.
    OUD butters are always different than oud oils and oud oils are also different in qualties.Even oud oils from different places ,Combodian,Laos,Assam, differ in nuances.
    True oud oils ar genuine and very smooth in scent they cannot be hated even if one does not like woody scents,and as for Bertrand Duchafour made an acceptable woody oriental but the name of the creation is a bit weird . Shamash god of the sun by Akkadians in mesopotamia.
    If it was named OUD Laos it was to be better recieved.

    Creative directors are sometimes weird.

  9. #69

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    For ajmal they have a luxury range which I did not tested however I doubt all the rest of their ranges will include Givaudin's Fermenich'sand symrise's oudy bases as Ajmal admitted.
    We need to know that oud oil is e-x-p-e-n-s-i-v-e and quantities are not so important.
    An honest oud introduction is a bit expensive ut it merits if one have extra and extra monies.
    https://ensaroud.com/product/ultimate-oud-sampler/189
    The only OUD oils I trust to buy although they are very expensive.
    This man is doing a good job and he is among the last oud connesseurs.

  10. #70

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    It all depends on the type of make and agarwood. Sometimes its incomparable as different agarwood lovers prefer different scent. But grading AAA or +++ are more expensive and deep smell.

  11. #71

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    XXV For sure....
    Quote Originally Posted by Stalkerboy View Post
    Oud Wood, hands down!
    While this is fantastic scent, the Oud is in the background...not prominent like GPH, XXV, or some of the Montales.
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    1. Dior - Homme/Intense (vintage)

    2.
    Creed - Aventus

    3.
    Amouage - Jubilation XXV

    4.
    Amouage - Reflection Man

    5.
    Dior - Feve Delicious

    6.
    Hermes - Terre d'Hermes

    7.
    Parfums De Marly - Herod

    8.
    Tom Ford - Oud Wood

    9.
    Serge Lutens - Chergui

    10. Lalique - Encre Noire Extreme

    Life's too short for average fragrances.
    Currently wearing: Jubilation XXV by Amouage

  12. #72

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    While uncertain as to how good it is-not just in terms of the pleasantness it has, but the sheer quality of its ingredients and manufacturing, enjoying LM Black Oud quite a bit lately
    Currently wearing: Pour Un Homme by Caron

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    I currently enjoy The Night by Frederic Malle
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    Oud Wood +1, Aoud Rose, Jubilation XXV, Mona di Orio Oud.

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    I have some original oud from Assam ( CO2 extract). Concentrated-The opening notes are very sweet, woody, and when diluted with jojoba oil and some fraction of sandalwood oil the opening notes are very fecal and a bit overwhelming. It looks like this needs very diluted portions to kick the first smell woody with a hint of smoke- off. I am still working to formulate a right proportion of the ingredients.

    Another observation: Adding a little bit Haitian vetiver changed its performance. In other words, vetiver took over the main notes- woody and earthy a bit dirty too if I dare to mention this.

    I know that the OP must have had their experience of oud a while ago, however; I still wanted to provide some feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mohamed1988 View Post
    First of all with respect commarades oud is nearly vanishing by masssive poching untill the aragrwood specie has been included in Cites appendix.
    Second,oud oil can be distilled from infected part of the tree which occurs by the time.
    Thirdly,Agarwood trees are being infected synthetically to produce more fragrant material.
    What we may have as ouds todays are as follows:
    1/Oud oils made from low quality agarwoods .They are on sale as true agarwood oils however they are not because the oil being distilled is not mainly from infected part.
    2/Synthetic oud oils which are Agarwood bases meant to reconstitute Agarwood scent.They are made generally from Aroma chemicals.
    3/Agarwood reconstitutions The most famous of them are Givaudin's Black agar and Fermenich oud Blend
    Widely used by french Perfume houses to make their floral orientals or so called ouds destned to the western markets.
    4/ Arcadi boix Camps agarwood oils which better then the two latters .He spent around 30 years on research of agarwood captive moleculesto end up reconstituing many oud oils by almost 95 percent.
    5/True artisanal oud oil ,which is found in small batches or amounts made by a very few local distillators and adventurous entrepreneus like ensaroud.It is costful however it merits for its originality.

    M7 aphrodisiatic compain and and weird brief "Torrid,male,and extremly sexy"made Note that is quality is known by connesseurs only and the are
    Jacques Cavallier and Alberto Morillas, use Karanal boosted by mandarine with bitter and sweet facettes of myrrhe ,a cherry twist which remind me of le Boxeuses of the dreamer Serge Lutens. A a fumugating caramal note évoquing the fume of oud with hints of castoréum and indole to round it well .
    An impolite marketing compain.
    A well recieved perfume.
    an untrue oud by the end.
    French perfumery .
    Interesting, Thanks. Karanal is powerful stuff.

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    This new House of Oud....Crop 2016, is really growing on me!

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    Default Re: best oud = agarwood scents ???

    Just a youtube clip how agarwood is artificially "made": Pretty S/M stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHoMaKPTsaE

    Agar Aura samples 5 pure oud oils (Al Syed Ceylon No1, King Koh Kong, Mahabali, Lao Chen Xiang, Kehebatan) and 3 oud Mukhallats (Kinam attar, Neriko Attar, Intiqa'ie) arrived.
    Olfactory insanity.
    Artisanally distilled oud oil attar samples.

    I whiffed the scents for hours after their arrival.... I can confirm that the Ajmal Mukhallat Dahn Al Oudh Moattaq contains real oud. But these little vials were much more concentrated and diverse each. The pure oud oils come from different provenances (Sri Lanka, Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia, India) and their scent universes are clearly distinguishable, multi layered and they bring the scent universe to a whole new level. Really.
    Below are the 5 pure oud oil samples

    No "stinking grade" agarwood mimicking aromachemicals here.

    In my opinion these unique distillations are not consumables but collectibles.

    https://www.asiaplantationcapital.com/products/agarwood
    " The latest records from CITES indicate that recorded global trade in oud oil in 2012 was 4,870 litres, a 1,512% increase in volume from 2004."

    Plantation oud oils will be there, since the global market grows for them, not only for fragrance but also therapeutical values in medicine. Wild oud, and especially oil distilled from wild oud chips will vanish quickly with the exponential population explosion and deforestation.
    Last edited by HTom; 7th May 2017 at 10:49 AM. Reason: OK

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