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    Default Knize 10 pronunciation: German or Austrian basenoter help?

    I note in U.S. we tend to pronounce Knize like "Nize," but something tells me that's incorrect.

    What is proper pronunciation in German? (Though I believe it's a Czech name, no?)

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    Default Re: Knize 10 pronunciation: German or Austrian basenoter help?

    I heard that it's hungarian. Kneege maybe? Like cheese, but Kneege. I think "g" is better than "z", because "z" turns to "s" and it's not Kneese.
    But I could be wrong of course ....
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    Default Re: Knize 10 pronunciation: German or Austrian basenoter help?

    There was quite a lengthy thread regarding this at the end of 2008. The link is below.

    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/218...=knize+pronoun

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    Default Re: Knize 10 pronunciation: German or Austrian basenoter help?

    It's Czech and would properly be pronounced roughly like knee with the k NOT silent plus the French "je" (i.e. I) - that particular sound does not exist in English, but you may know it from Jacques Guerlain, Angelina Jolie etc. I heard onve that Knize themselves also accept the Anglicized version (after all it was marketed internationally as "The Knize Ten")
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    We have looked into that before. I wouldn't worry and just continue pronouncing it the English way. That's how Knize Tailors wanted their customers to pronounce it . Reason: At the time, English cloths and tailoring dominated the fashion for Gentlemen on the continent, also in Vienna and Berlin. (French was a bit out for better menswear, not for couture, though.) Ten is just a number, but the label spells that out in English (not in German, Hungarian, or a third language in the old Habsburg Reich). Little detail which everybody ignores nowadays: the correct fragrance name is not Knize 10 but "The Knize Ten", complete:

    " The Gentleman's Toilet Water
    The
    Knize Ten "

    By the way, The Knize Ten was then an exclusive for the customers of the house, not a widely distributed cologne for men.

    (If you want to search back a year or two, you'll come across at least one thread where this has been discussed last; edit: and Inselaffe already posted link#1 which includes also include one more link: see post #3, Thank you !)

    edit:
    mere coincidence, the_good-life. I took longer to edit. Czech of course it is!
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    Thanks Narcus. Interesting and enlightening. Sounds quite accurate.

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    Sounds like a project for http://belabela.posterous.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quarry View Post
    Sounds like a project for http://belabela.posterous.com/
    I just love the angry parisian comments under the names..... Or do I....

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    Default Re: Knize 10 pronunciation: German or Austrian basenoter help?

    k nee sheh That is the pronunciation that was used by the company when I contacted them. They pronounce it the Czech way, not the German way.

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    When I was in Vienna the people there pronounced it: k-NEE-zheh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noggs View Post
    When I was in Vienna the people there pronounced it: k-NEE-zheh.
    Being a Knize fan and quite familiar with Vienna, I recall having heard on multiple occasions exactly the same pronunciation

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    Quote Originally Posted by narcus View Post
    We have looked into that before. I wouldn't worry and just continue pronouncing it the English way. That's how Knize Tailors wanted their customers to pronounce it . Reason: At the time, English cloths and tailoring dominated the fashion for Gentlemen on the continent, also in Vienna and Berlin. (French was a bit out for better menswear, not for couture, though.) Ten is just a number, but the label spells that out in English (not in German, Hungarian, or a third language in the old Habsburg Reich). Little detail which everybody ignores nowadays: the correct fragrance name is not Knize 10 but "The Knize Ten", complete:

    " The Gentleman's Toilet Water
    The
    Knize Ten "

    By the way, The Knize Ten was then an exclusive for the customers of the house, not a widely distributed cologne for men.

    (If you want to search back a year or two, you'll come across at least one thread where this has been discussed last; edit: and Inselaffe already posted link#1 which includes also include one more link: see post #3, Thank you !)

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    mere coincidence, the_good-life. I took longer to edit. Czech of course it is!
    It is still produced by a small german company in very limited quantities. Talk about exclusivity!

    The last time I checked, Luckyscent is on backorder since last year. Other websites that list it are also out of stock.

    Luckily, I managed to find a seller from Australia on eBay offering 5 and 10ml decants. Guess that will have to do until the backorder comes through.

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    Default Re: Knize 10 pronunciation: German or Austrian basenoter help?

    I live in Vienna and have been at the Knize store several times -- they also have some nice clothes and shoes, it's worth a visit. In my experience the name is pronounced K-nee-je (the "je" similar to the one in "jerk").
    Something that struck is they have a big range of bottle sizes -- 15, 30, 50, 75, 100, 125ml, and even bigger, if I'm not mistaken.

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    Just go to the google translate,
    they have a listen function:

    Kneezah [With a K like in kill]

    http://translate.google.dk/#cs|da|knize

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    Default Re: Knize 10 pronunciation: German or Austrian basenoter help?

    you can only pronounce it correctly if you heard a born Czech to speak it out. Or a Slovak, eventually (I am a born Slovak :-))
    so . ....

    KNEEEEZHE provided that "n" is very soft, like "nj" or how it could be heard in Eastern European countries. The end "e" is also open.

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