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    Hope you did not skip your history class. I want from you a scent of Gaius Julius Caesar, and one scent of Justinian I the Great.

    Aha, let me see you now gentlemen

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    Don't quote me on this, but I read somewhere that Gaius Julius Caesar smells like horse sweat. In fact, would be curious of what happens if you Google:

    Julius Caesar "horse sweat"
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    Onda by Vero Kern smells of wild animals, smoke and leather. I can't help but think of a fire in the Colosseum when I wear it.

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    I'm sure Julius Caesar would smell of roses galore.

    But take my hero, Caligula Caesar, he would ooze
    some good ol' Xeryus de Givenchy ... if he'd had
    the chance!
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    Horse sweat hahaha, do horses sweat? I know dogs do not for instance...

    Xeryus de Givenchy...never tried it, own Xeryus Rouge, love it!

    Byzantines were obsessed by purple (colour of the nobility), so mayhaps a scent that has this something that reminds one of purple? Not necessarily a purple bottle, but that one too if it goes well with the scent it contains...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zgb View Post
    Byzantines were obsessed by purple (colour of the nobility)
    POISON!

    I'm sure all those extravagant bisexual rulers would have loved that juice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Grand Duc View Post
    POISON!

    I'm sure all those extravagant bisexual rulers would have loved that juice!
    Absolutely, you took the words right out of my mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggles View Post
    Absolutely, you took the words right out of my mouth.
    Call me clairvoyant!

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    [In Rome] - Evidence shows that perfumes with cinnamon and balsam of Judea were the most expensive. Those and other exotic ingredients were added to heated olive oil which was a commonly used base. During the times of Ancient Rome and Greece, the Italian region of Campania became famous for its perfume production. The fields of the regions were abundant in roses and they became a popular ingredient in the production of perfumes.

    http://tips.become.com/perfumes/history-perfumes.html

    The Romans indulged in the practice of applying perfume three times a day. Pet dogs and horses were also perfumed. At feasts, birds were released from their cages to dispense perfume from their wings; draperies, candlesticks, tables, and cushions were all perfumed. The servants wore musk, marjoram, spikenard, and other aromatics.

    http://www.perfumes.com/eng/history.htm

    Justinian I. was a Christian, orthodox, full of zeal for the purity of the faith, and waging a perpetual war against Paganism and heresy. The lower classes of the population were still Pagan in many places, as, for instance, in Peloponnesus and the interior of Asia Minor; and in the upper strata of society there reigned a widespread religious indifference. The latter, Justinian I. compelled to conform, at least externally, to Christianity; and with respect to the former he boasted of conversions by the thousands. The philosophical schools of Athens he closed in 529, and banished the teachers. They went to Persia; but, by the intercession of Chosroes, they were afterwards allowed to return. Less leniently he treated the Christian heretics, - the Montanists, Nestorians, Eutychians, and others; and the marvellous success of the Mohammedan invasion of Egypt and Syria half a century later is generally ascribed to the total disaffection of the population, which resulted from the ecclesiastical policy of Justinian.

    http://www.earlychurch.org.uk/justinian.php
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    Roman:

    Tuscan Soul


    Byzantine:

    Byzance
    I offer you perfume,
    More for its pleasure than for yours;
    You perfume perfume.

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    I think I read somewhere The ancient Romans loved Lavender

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    Nomade & Imagine

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    Quote Originally Posted by adonis View Post
    The Romans indulged in the practice of applying perfume three times a day. Pet dogs and horses were also perfumed. At feasts, birds were released from their cages to dispense perfume from their wings; draperies, candlesticks, tables, and cushions were all perfumed. The servants wore musk, marjoram, spikenard, and other aromatics.
    Sounds like heaven!
    Poor pets, though.

    I must get my own servants to wear musk,
    I've always been a sucker for musk..!

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    When I think of Byzantium, I think of opulent, very heavy incense. The first thing to come to mind was Black Phoenix Cathedral perfume oil!

    The Byzantines intermarried with the Crusader kings of the Latin Kingdom, so I seem to sense a lot of olibanum and frankincense, perhaps with clove and myrrh.
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    Why, Caesars Man, of course......
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    I'm surprised no one has mentioned the one Guerlain named after a roman general:

    C O R I O L A N

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trufflehunter View Post
    I'm surprised no one has mentioned the one Guerlain named after a roman general:

    C O R I O L A N
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    Tsar by Van Cleef & Arpels & Coriolan by Guerlain.

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    In my imagination, Julius Caesar would wear a dry, uncompromising lemon-herbal scent. "Garrigue" in style, and Mediterranean in atmosphere. Eau D'Hadrien fits the bill.
    Justininan and the later Byzantine emperors -- something rich, incense- and spice-laden.
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    Spikenard was a valuable and sought-after (but very expensive) perfume ingredient in classical times. One of the most prized concoctions with nard was unguentum nardinum (sive foliatum), which contained costus (the root of Saussurea lappa), amomum (the fruits of Amomum cardamomum), balm (the oleoresin of Balsamodendron opobalsamum) and myrrh, with Indian nard (Nardostachys jatamansi).

    I bet Caesar and Justinian would both have been happy with a nice big jar of Nardinum to scent themselves with!
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    Julius Caesar would be an interesting one. He, if he wore perfume as we understand it, would have probably used exotic incenses and balms coming from India and China on the Silk Road. It is likely that Justian would have worn similar ointments as the Byzantines themselves never referred to themselves as Byzantine, but insisted they were Romans--descendants of Caesar, Titus, Nero, and Commodus--maybe a few of them were. Justian and his successors albeit it very briefly reconquered most of the lands of the old Roman Empire. We must also remember that the Roman and Byzantine crowns were more egalitarian than those of 19th Century Europe--they were non-hereditary (but often ended up that way). Byzantium had emperors who were shepherds, blacksmiths, and butchers. The Byzantines married into the Russian royal family shortly before the fall of Constantinople in 1453) as the Romanovs or "Romans." Interestingly, there are still a few descendants of the Russian Imperial family living in exile in western Europe who claim to be descendants of the Roman Caesars.
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    Byzance by Rochas comes first to mind; plus, I really like it.

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    This thread blossomed indeed, like it

    Indeed Byzant does strike quite much like an incense type of culture. Byzantine emperor would mayhaps wear some mix of Fahrenhiet Absolute and Body Kouros...

    Roman emperors would wear something citrsuy with floral notes I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zgb View Post
    mix of Fahrenhiet Absolute and Body Kouros...
    A truely bizarre mix!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Grand Duc View Post
    A truely bizarre mix!
    I did not mean that literally! Mix of removing some notes such as benzoin from BK, removing some notes from Fahrenheit Absolute...I was not referring to literal mixing or layering of the two...That's something king of Sodom or Gommorah would do
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