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    Default I've Ventured Into the World of Creed.

    OK, so 2 months ago I went to sample some Creeds at Harvey Nichols... I tested GIT, Himalaya, Orginal Santal, MI and VIW... initial impressions were great of all of them. Since then I was questioning why GIT got all this hype and thought it smelt good but not as good as many made out. The Cool Water comparisons were always in the back of my mind and I started to give it a negative and unfair rep. Today I went back to Harvey Nichols and was either going to buy GIT, Original Vetiver or VIW. I now curse the day I bad mouthed GIT... I smelt it again (with my nose being more refined) and couldn't get over how amazing it smelt and now I totally understand why it's Creeds #1 selling fragrance. Ironicially after giving it a bad rep previsiouly I actually bought a 75ml bottle today and I'm so pleased with my first ever Creed purchase; Cool Water doesn't even come close to it.

    So my question is has anyone else had a different 2nd impression of any of the Creed fragrances?

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    Wow! Your experience is MUCH similar to that of mine.

    My firs creed sampling was GIT and the first time I thought "meh?". Why all the hoopla? There's nothing great about this stuff. I'm not buying this.

    Over time, I actually see that my olfaction is improving a lot (I cannot believe I have started to hate one man show, which I liked very much in the past). And now I tried GIT just today again, and I'm very impressed with the quality. While I think that it may not be the best from the house of Creed, it definitely is of fine quality.
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    Default Re: I've Ventured Into the World of Creed.

    it happened to me with BdP and now is my favorite Creed and perhaps among my top 3 fragrances ever.
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    Default Re: I've Ventured Into the World of Creed.

    Yes. I originally hated Vintage Tabarome and recently retried it. If it's not my current favorite, it in top five along with Royal English Leather which I also did a 180 on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojskovođa View Post
    So my question is has anyone else had a different 2nd impression of any of the Creed fragrances?
    Sorry to say (not really), that that kind of experience is quite common with an austere, critical smelling of everything imaginable. A second sniff times later is expected to be related to different references, hence different. That for people, who are trusted for millions in the business - the noses - would never justify a scent on their owns.

    The more I read on Creed the more I get, let's remain polite, confused. As if Creed had had invented perfumery, they didn't! Creed is a fashion house that found perfumery more profitable in the 19-7ties. So they went fragrance. That's it.

    Would You as a fragrance lover consider to work out for instance Celliers BANDIT vs. Carles' MA GRIFFE? Both are - unusual for their times 'green'. The first going leather (yeah, an other 'invention' of Creed), the latter aldehydes (hey, any Creed?). What would You say if Creed "GIT" was a flanker of the original Cool Water, but with some stunningly ugly alterations like a nose to big? Just to be sure to be different! But exclusive. You are sure You like Creed NOT for just being more expensive than the original, more sophisticated CW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by merry.waters View Post
    But exclusive. You are sure You like Creed NOT for just being more expensive than the original, more sophisticated CW?
    Merry.Waters, I don't want to get into a fight, but the gentleman clearly says he is impressed by the smell of the product, and likes it very much. He's in a position to tell what he likes, and it's unfair to him to have you, or anyone, second-guessing what his motivations for liking the smell are, and further suggesting that his motivations are because the product is more costly.

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    Happened to me with Royal English Leather.. First try was "Meh".. Tried it again later and loved it!! Plan on picking up a bottle soon.
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    There is too much variety among their offerings to make blanket generalizations about them. I like the ambergris base but not enough to shell out the big bucks, and I like the new Tabarome's top notes. That's about it, among those I've tried (about 10, some of which repelled me while others I just didn't think were anything special).
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    Quote Originally Posted by DustB View Post
    Merry.Waters, I don't want to get into a fight, but the gentleman clearly says he is impressed by the smell of the product, and likes it very much. He's in a position to tell what he likes, and it's unfair to him to have you, or anyone, second-guessing what his motivations for liking the smell are, and further suggesting that his motivations are because the product is more costly.

    If he likes it it's because he likes it.
    Sorry, The original question was about the infamous second whiff. Yes I know about it. Alas, not experienced with Creed. So I'm not qualified to participate in this thread.

    Smelling is quite subjective. At least if costs come into account. That's a matter of fact. I'm not with You as I never would pay for the exquisite Creed exclusivity. I'll stick with my mediocre -true- classics. And shut up.

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    Any thread with Creed brings in someone to disregard the question in order to piss on Creed. I quite enjoy it now. I miss 55Karl.
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    Creed's mix of refinement and luxury is quite seductive. I deeply love two of their offerings: Jasmin Impératrice Eugénie, for its mix of jasmine and sandalwood and Royal Scottish Lavender, for its fine lavender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merry.waters View Post
    Sorry to say (not really), that that kind of experience is quite common with an austere, critical smelling of everything imaginable. A second sniff times later is expected to be related to different references, hence different. That for people, who are trusted for millions in the business - the noses - would never justify a scent on their owns.

    The more I read on Creed the more I get, let's remain polite, confused. As if Creed had had invented perfumery, they didn't! Creed is a fashion house that found perfumery more profitable in the 19-7ties. So they went fragrance. That's it.

    Would You as a fragrance lover consider to work out for instance Celliers BANDIT vs. Carles' MA GRIFFE? Both are - unusual for their times 'green'. The first going leather (yeah, an other 'invention' of Creed), the latter aldehydes (hey, any Creed?). What would You say if Creed "GIT" was a flanker of the original Cool Water, but with some stunningly ugly alterations like a nose to big? Just to be sure to be different! But exclusive. You are sure You like Creed NOT for just being more expensive than the original, more sophisticated CW?
    Fair enough.

    Like I mentioned in my original post, when I smelt GIT the first time I don't think my nose was not quite refined enough and didn't appreciate the quality enough but still thought it smelt pretty good. Now that my nose has developed becoming more refined I can now appreciate how great GIT is I understand why it gets the hype.

    And no, I didn't buy GIT just because it's a more expensive and far superior compared to Cool Water. If it smelt too similar to Cool Water I wouldn't of shelled out the expensive sum for what I paid if I could of got a 100ml bottle of Cool Water for 1/5 of the price. I personally think the Cool Water comparison has dragged on a bit has got a little bit tedious now. OK yes, for the first 20 minutes or so the smell a little bit similar but once GIT developes on my skin it gets better and better and much less like than Cool Water. There are a few different fragrances which smell similar why the GIT-Cool Water get the biggest press I do not know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StylinLA View Post
    ... in order to piss on Creed.
    May be the nation suffers from a schism as with Ronald The Reagan. One half feels comfortable, the other runs for the exit.

    The topic isn't to much related to Creed. I encourage everybody to train their noses and style with -true- classics as the ones given. Take a second whiff with #5, Fath Green Water and the like. In the end, have some fun with perfumery! Creeds cant live up the fraudulent advertising IMHO

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    I'm sure the Creed mystique generates plenty of business for them. But many of the attacks in here make the assumption that someone who expresses a like for a Creed fragrance has never smelled it, worn it, liked it and made their own considered decision with their own brain as to whether or not it's worth it.

    Few if any fragrances "live up" to their advertising. Hey, I wore Hai Karate. Didn't have to defend myself from hot women attacks at all.

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    You'll find that will happen with any fragrance from any brand. I'm always very pleased when it does happen - it feels like you've discovered something special.

    merry.waters - I see you're bringing some nice salty input here. I guess quitting the site is a little harder to do than you thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merry.waters View Post
    May be the nation suffers from a schism as with Ronald The Reagan. One half feels comfortable, the other runs for the exit.
    Nice move. Very tasteful of you. Bring up politics. Suggest because of the country people live in their opinions are, well, to be belittled by you. Yes, you know about telling members their issues are like a politician. Very wise. So very tasteful and respectful of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merry.waters View Post
    And shut up.
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    My first experience with Creed was Himalaya and I had a very negative reaction to it. It was probably the most negative reaction I've had to any fragrance so far. However, I just gave it a 2nd wearing today and it's not nearly as bad as I initially thought. It's still too peppery for me though.

    I'm not sure if this fits what you were asking about, but it's definitely a different impression than my initial one. I'm glad that you found one that you really love!

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    It frustrates me that any discussion regarding a Creed product tends to stray.

    Back on track...

    I'm a fan of GIT, right from the first sniff! The similarity to Coolwater is forever discussed because a similar top-note accord. In my opinion the heart and base are night and day.

    Some of the less recent Creed releases are just as impressive if not moreso: Baie de Genièvre, Royal Scottish Lavender, & Selection Verte
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojskovođa View Post
    There are a few different fragrances which smell similar why the GIT-Cool Water get the biggest press I do not know...
    I think the reason the GIT/Cool Water debate goes on so often is because of the subsidiary debate as to whether or not Pierre Bourdon (who created Cool Water) also created Green Irish Tweed.

    I've been wearing GIT for years - I don't wear Cool Water - and even though I find GIT to be a far superior scent, I do think the similarities b/w the two are obvious. They obviously smell very similar. However, as I wrote in my BN review of GIT, Green Irish Tweed has notes in it that give it a certain sparkling opulence that Cool Water simply does not have. Cool Water, though not a bad scent by any means, smells to me like a cheaper knock-off of GIT.

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    Default Re: I've Ventured Into the World of Creed.

    REL, VT and RSL are all Creed scents I revisited and fell in love with. A little late on the VT. MI is growing on me one wearing at a time. I may have to revisit BdP. I bought a bottle years ago- pre Basenotes. I think it is "played out." No way it should be that weak given all the comments I see in here about it.

    I've always liked GIT and I owe it to myself to try Cool Water to see just how similar they really are. The impression I get from some noses I trust in here is that they blast open the same way, but take a different course thereafter.

    Shamu, I don't know like a fact about the Bourdon thing, but Luca Turin is certainly quite adamant he did both.
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    Default Re: I've Ventured Into the World of Creed.

    Some of the Creeds I have, were not love at first sniff. Royal Water, Love In White, Love In Black. Royal Water I still have issues at times justifying the rash buy, but the latter 2, I went back and forth, and finally settled down with full appreciation for them.

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    Happened to me with several Creeds. Initially not so wowed by Neroli Sauvage, Royal Scottish Lavender, Bois du Portugal, Erolfa. Now quite fond of all of them. I purchased a travel size of new Tabarome on a business trip, couldn't wait to get home to put some on, so I gave myself a quick spray in the car on the way home from the airport. I came very close to tossing it out the window, not kidding. Later, I gave it another try, and another. A favorite now.

    I find that all of life's sweetest pleasures are acquired tastes. Most of the exotic food and drink I like, most art, most music -- most of the best I didn't like the first time I tried them. Fragrance is very much in that same group. Don't like it the first time? Give it another try, and another one after that.

    Conversely, I find if I like it too much the first time, I get tired of it quickly. Like the way you get tired of a bad pop song that's a little too catchy.
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    Default Re: I've Ventured Into the World of Creed.

    Bois du Portugal took a while for me to like. I always liked the top notes for their spiciness, but the mid and drydown accords smelled way too stodgy and dandified for me. After like the fourth try, however, I got to really like it, enough to buy myself a bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merry.waters View Post
    One half feels comfortable, the other runs for the exit.
    I'm heading for the exit, but first a spritz of Royal Scottish Lavender - what do you mean there are no exits anymore?
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    I've enjoyed the few Creed I've tried - OV, VIW, SMW, Himalaya - but whether the price is justified seems more a function of disposable income.
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    I've had this experience with Millesime Imperial. The first spray was like a metal polish mixed with bug spray and melon. Such a big let down. I think when you pay that kind of amount, you really expect miracles, but it's just a fragrance.

    Nowadays I wear MI more and boy have I never been complimented that much for a fragrance. Nearly all people I meet had a few words about it. Yesterday while I was waiting for a bus at the bus stop a woman actually slithered behind me and asked the name of the frag saying that it smells heavenly. I guess MI has a different effect when it projects because I still don't think it is a very good fragrance, reminds me of KC Reaction which costs 5 times less.

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    Yeh. I had exact the same experience! As with most of the creed fragrances, you have to give them a second chance. It`s like a good wine or cheese, you have to learn to love them, and when you do, you can`t get enough! Absolutely not the most original and unique fragrances out there, but when it comes to elegance, sophistcation, and the feel of luxury, it`s definitively my no. 1 company!
    I didn`t care much about GIT the first time eighter, but after a couple of wearings i detect i had never smell something so real and natural. It`s the opposite of synthetic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustB View Post
    Nice move. Very tasteful of you. Bring up politics. Suggest because of the country people live in their opinions are, well, to be belittled by you. Yes, you know about telling members their issues are like a politician. Very wise. So very tasteful and respectful of you.
    Ronald Reagan is history. So, it's not politics I thought. It's a matter of fact that the nation separated into Yes and No then, isn't it? A schism, wording wrong?

    Sorry to have put some salt into a fresher wound as I expected. I beg Your pardon. I shut up on Creed, it's just to funny with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merry.waters View Post
    May be the nation suffers from a schism as with Ronald The Reagan. One half feels comfortable, the other runs for the exit.

    The topic isn't to much related to Creed. I encourage everybody to train their noses and style with -true- classics as the ones given. Take a second whiff with #5, Fath Green Water and the like. In the end, have some fun with perfumery! Creeds cant live up the fraudulent advertising IMHO
    I believe your logic is mistaken. There is no intrinsic reverse proportionality between marketing fraudulence and perfume quality, much less personal preferences. Bullshit can sell crap, but bullshit can also sell quality. Even a detractor such as Luca Turin admits that Creed is very adept at creating simple, effective fragrances from top notch materials (Neroli Sauvage, Selection Verte). I consider myself the no.1 Creed myth buster, but I cherish many of their traditional-style fragrances. And you know well enough that it's a syllogistic fallacy to conclude that anyone who likes Creed or prefers it to other brands has fallen for their image mongering, just because many Creed consumers may primarily seek social distinction in Millesime Imperiale. Certainly basenoters, simply becasue of the indepth knowledge they've acquired about the perfume business, are less likely to fall for marketing ploys, and if they do, then with a certain conscious irony. Finally, why is it so hard to believe that Pierre Bourdon simply had a higher budget to work with on Green Irish Tweed and reworked the formula on a tight budget for Cool Water? I can certainly smell the difference in that case, without believing for a moment that Olivier Creed personally sails the seas on the Erolfa in search of the finest ambergris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_good_life View Post
    I believe your logic is mistaken. There is no intrinsic reverse proportionality between marketing fraudulence and perfume quality, much less personal preferences. Bullshit can sell crap, but bullshit can also sell quality.
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