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    I used to enjoy the aquatic feeling that coumarine injects into fragrances but now I am very tired of it like a chronic nose fatigue. All fragrances that include coumarine in their formulas smell the same to me after less than one hour I am pretty much left with a shadow of the initial notes and a huge coumarine smell until the end of the fragrance life.

    For example today I am wearing Polo Explorer and all I get is coumarine and a shy sweet note, yesterday I wore Polo Blue and the day before yesterday Donna Karan Men and it feels as I have been wearing the same for 3 consecutive days.
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    Default Re: Courmarine

    Coumarine is basically tonka bean/sweet grass/hay, there's nothing aquatic about it as far as I know.

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    Perhaps the confusion is in spelling. The chemical is coumarin and it is derived from tonka bean or some grasses. It comes from the French coumarou (tonka bean). The chemical has a sweet, hay-like smell. Hope this helps.
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    I think you might be thinking of calone, rather than coumarin.
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    Try getting your hands on Mouchoir de Monsieur or Cologne Imperiale which both contain a good whack of tonka. They are not grassy or aquatic in the least. The tonka adds a semi-sweet musky skin scent.

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    calone, that is what I tried to say but seems the coumarine also gives you that fresh aquatic note omnipresent in a gazillion fragrances. Today I tested again 1 million and Clinic Happy and they have the same calone vibe.
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    You want to know what coumarin is all about? Try Bois Blond. I think you'll realize it's not what you think you're smelling. And I think the others have it pegged correctly as calone.
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    Actually, coumarin is the antidote to fresh aquatic. As others have said here, coumarin on the contrary exhibits the sweetness of culinary delights, from aniseed and licorice notes as well as macaroons, salty toffees and blond tobacco all the way to hay and toasted bread (to quote Perfumeshrine). Basteri, it's not coumarin you're smelling, it's something else!

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    calone that is what it is. I got mixed up with the words.
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    Default Re: Courmarine

    Calone is an interesting smell...but I don't want it on me.

    Love tonka though.

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    Chergui has a lot of coumarin in it.

    There are two plants that grow around here that are loaded with coumarin. Sweet Woodruff (Asperula odorata) for one and Sweet Clover (Melilotus officinalis) for the other. These are the two most memorable for me, because they are so strong after they have been mewn. But lets not forget tobacco, which gives off coumarin as it dries.

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    Default Re: Courmarine

    Quote Originally Posted by tott View Post
    Coumarine is basically tonka bean/sweet grass/hay, there's nothing aquatic about it as far as I know.
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    I thought I hated calone, but I've come to realize I only hate it when it's used as a main note. When it's used very, very subtly, it can give things a dewy freshness, like in En Passant.

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    Default Re: Courmarine

    Going to close this since the compounds were mixed up and the replies are mainly focused on this, rather than the intention.
    Basteri, please post again about calone if you'd like to open up that discussion!
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