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  • Guerlain Vetiver

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  • Serge Lutens Ambre Sultan

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    Default BMM10: 3/22 Game 57 (Essential Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Basenotes March Madness 2010

    Games 57 & 58
    (Round 4)
    Poll ends March 23.


    (1) Guerlain Vetiver vs. (2) Serge Lutens Ambre Sultan

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    All games in this round are worth 8 points, all threads will have one game only from here on.

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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Here it is, the premiere matchup of the tournament, a 1-seed versus a 2-seed. I suspect this may go to overtime. I voted for Guerlain Vetiver but my heart is in Ambre Sultan.
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    The Zeitgeist Sez...

    Predictions:

    (4) Dior Homme def. (12) Serge Lutens Chergui
    (1) Thierry Mugler A*Men def. (13) Creed Silver Mountain Water


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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Gonna be a tight match. I know that I would rather wear Guerlain Vetiver for a month straight rather than Ambre Sultan for the same duty, but the GV champ might be hindered because the cheering section won't be there for it as much since, well, it's the champ and we kind of take its wins for granted. Truth is that I would sure pick it for wearings in ways I wouldn't pick AS.
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Ambre Sultan is a lot more interesting than Guerlain Vetiver.

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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    That bracket looks amazing so far!

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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Spray View Post
    Ambre Sultan is a lot more interesting than Guerlain Vetiver.
    There you have it folks, vote in agreement with me or in agreement with Spray. (Hehehe.)
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    In a way, this could have been the final game...1 and 2 seeds against each other, and all.

    I find Vetiver to be more wearable for me (and therefore worthy of my vote), and I hope a lot of others do too!
    Last edited by Asha; 22nd March 2010 at 04:44 AM.

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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Guerlain Vetiver is nowhere near the best vetiver out there, while Ambre Sultan is one of the better ambers, so I'm going to have to go with the Sultan.
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Interesting, SoS. I tried a wide range of vetiver fragrances (including Route du Vetiver, Vetiver Extraordinare, Encre Noire, etc.), and I found Guerlain Vetiver to be the best for overall longevity, interesting development and classic style. Not to say the others are not good, but rather than nothing out there really even is in this same category for a lighter vetiver fragrance. I agree with Luca Turin--GV is a "reference vetiver" fragrance.

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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    I'm with DustB. I wore Guerlain Vetiver for probably 10+ days straight after I got a bottle. My Ambre Sultan sample, on the other hand, never gets consecutive wearings.

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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Asha View Post
    Interesting, SoS. I tried a wide range of vetiver fragrances (including Route du Vetiver, Vetiver Extraordinare, Encre Noire, etc.), and I found Guerlain Vetiver to be the best for overall longevity, interesting development and classic style. Not to say the others are not good, but rather than nothing out there really even is in this same category for a lighter vetiver fragrance. I agree with Luca Turin--GV is a "reference vetiver" fragrance.
    Have you tried Vetiver de Puig?

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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    with 44 votes 22 - 22 this is a tight match as it is a tight decision.

    Although Guerlain Vetiver is more wearable and suitable for different occasion and better fit for frequent rotation, Ambre Sultan is the scent I would wear around a lady.

    Also there are IMO more beautiful vetivers over GV than there are Ambers over AS.

    The Sultan has my vote for tickling my senses.
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    I've a sample of Ambre Sultan and a bottle each of Guerlain Vetiver circa 1980s and Guerlain Vetiver circa 2005. That sample will outlast those bottles in my collection. Hrumph..
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    I just made it 50-50. My vote went to the Sultan, of course.

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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    I voted for Vetiver. Partly out of spite for AS beating Antaeus earlier and mostly because Vetiver is the better frag imo.
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    I agree with DustB that Vetiver would be much more suitable for consecutive wearing. However, I like Ambre Sultan much better and hardly remember the last time I wore anything consecutively! :P
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Oh no.........Guerlain Vetiver is trailing 26 to 29.......and that too to Ambre Sultan.......What has the world fallen down to?

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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Oh no, worse still. This is another one when the score gets worse when you take your eyes off the screen.
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    The current formulation of Vetiver is one of the dullest vetivers around. AS is far more interesting.
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    I voted for GV. I find it incredibly boring. But I could not vote for AS because this scent for me is sadness in a bottle. Which means that it it is a real piece of artwork. Which is something I appreciate in a fragrance. Am I going crazy?
    To rationalize this a bit GV is TO ME tha equivalent of an Anne Geddes picture while AS is the equivalent of a Hieronymus Bosch painting.

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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Wouldn't that be a reason to vote for Ambre Sultan?

    Surely I'd vote for a frag I found to be highly artistic over one I found boring but wearable.
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Ambre Sultan is beautiful, but I can't in my heart of hearts go for it over GV, which even in its current formulation remains a classic and justifiably great fragrance.
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Quote Originally Posted by SculptureOfSoul View Post
    Wouldn't that be a reason to vote for Ambre Sultan?

    Surely I'd vote for a frag I found to be highly artistic over one I found boring but wearable.
    I see your point but the emotional impact of AS is just overwhelming to me. Maybe I am in "I want to feel good" state of mind these days :-)
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    Wow!

    That really is an intense reaction! I suppose I see your point now!
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Truth be told, amber-centric scents are usually to me the ugly dog in armour in the bottom right corner of the picture. Lutens/Sheldrake have managed to reproduce the entire painting. :-)
    Ambre Precieux is the only amber-centric fragrance (is it really?) I enjoy.
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    I went with Vetiver. I like Ambre Sultan though.

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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    had to vote on Ambre Sultan
    I get a very strong "infamous" hay note in GV that I can't stand
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    The current formulations of both fragrances are dull. However, Vetiver is less dull and is still one of the better vetiver fragrances of its type. So it gets my vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SculptureOfSoul View Post
    Guerlain Vetiver is nowhere near the best vetiver out there, while Ambre Sultan is one of the better ambers, so I'm going to have to go with the Sultan.
    Great point SoS I'm voting Ambre Sultan. I quite enjoy wearing it, actually. Also, I just cannot stand vetiver dominated scents !
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    SOTE: Ambre Sultan on my right wrist, Vetiver on my left. I stand by my vote. Go Vetiver!

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    V-E-T-I-V-E-R

    Go-o-o-o-o Vetiver!

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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    The Ambre Sultan fans only have about twenty minutes to stage a comeback.

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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    45-43 with five minutes left. Can Ambre Sultan stage a last-minute comeback?
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Please oh please let AS come back!
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Games 57 & 58 (Olfactory Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Didn't budge, but it was a close one after all.
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Game 57 (Essential Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Yes, I too totally agree with the above statements that G~Vetiver is a great vetiver, and certainly the more "wearable" of the two. Especially if one is looking for an "everyday" vetiver. (Being much more of a "day" scent for me.) ...
    And A~Sultan is the more interesting and captivating, in terms of "richness", power, longevity (lasts 3 days on me easy, and longer even on my clothes), beauty and shear artistry in amber. (Better suited to "night" (seduction !? ), for me. ...

    THOUGH, still, it's definitely not my "fave vetiver", ... or my "fave amber", for that matter. Having others that I much prefer, hands down, if I really had to choose. (Lubin Vetiver & Ambre 114 , just to name two others which (IMHO, of course) are far superior ! ( And which unfortunately aren't even in the running !? )

    But, besides that ... The point I was trying to make : ... It really all depends on, are we really supposed to be voting on "convenience" and "wearabilty" ? ... Or rather excellence and mastery of composition ? ~ One's shear intoxicating power ??? (Or "Swoonworthiness", as I like to call it )

    I too definitely also wear G~Vetiver much more often. ... BUT that in itself already makes "the lessor worn one" often all the more special when I do. Chosen rather for special occasions, sort o'thing. ... AND I'm just a damn sucker for smouldering "AMBER" ambers anyway. ... Sooooo ... ?????

    AAAAARRRRGGGHH ... HOW DO I GET OFF THIS DAMNED FENCE ???

    Maybe I will just have to go the strategy route instead ??? Before my damned head blows off ??? (And I'm not even on the last leg yet (LOL))


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    Just by the way, ... I really think it's gonna be a ... CHERGUI >>>/\<<< L'AIR DDM ... massacre for top title ! ~ (YAY !)

    AND I must say, I'd actually be glad with either one !!! (BUT to choose between those two, for me, will be IMPOSSIBLE !!!)

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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Game 57 (Essential Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    I'm shocked that the safe fragrance defeated the risky one.

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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Game 57 (Essential Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sybarite View Post
    Are we really supposed to be voting on "convenience" and "wearabilty" ? ... Or rather excellence and mastery of composition ?
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Game 57 (Essential Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    March Madness is about mastery.
    Yes, that is what I would have thought, (and how I've been voting). .... But it seems "the workhorse" won out over "mastery" this time round !

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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Game 57 (Essential Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Spray View Post
    I'm shocked that the safe fragrance defeated the risky one.
    It sure is ironic given that the #1 criticism leveled against frags here on BN - designer and niche - is that they are too safe!
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Game 57 (Essential Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Whew!
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    Default Re: BMM10: 3/22 Game 57 (Essential Eight Begins! Guerlain Vetiver vs. Ambre Sultan!!!)

    Quote Originally Posted by DustB View Post
    Whew!
    +1!
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