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    Default Cologne du Parfumeur by Guerlain - New Fragrance

    Guerlain has announced the new cologne "Cologne du Parfumeur" created by Thierry Wasser. The first once since 1974! Along with this new launch, the previous colognes see a visual refresh with flacons including the perfumers' name (very frederic malle).

    "green is my tic, I put it everywhere."

    "Originally, I created this Cologne for myself. I composed it at the same time as Idylle, it was my downtime. I wanted a Cologne in the tradition of the great classics but with a modern twist."

    Notes: lemon water, orange blossom, orange juice, lavender syrup, mint and rosemary.

    more info here

    US Pricing: 100ml for $96, 250ml for $205, and 500ml for $300.


    Just in time for summer. I cannot wait to smell this when it launches next month.
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    Default Re: La Cologne du Parfumeur by Guerlain - New Fragrance

    I wasn't sure what the notes were going to be of this, thanks for posting T.

    I thought Cologne du 68 was created only a couple years ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    I thought Cologne du 68 was created only a couple years ago?
    It was, Mike. Either The Scented Salamander forgot about its existence or they don't consider '68' to be a true Eau de Cologne. I believe the latter is the case.
    I'm excited about this, as I love all the Guerlain Eau de Colognes. I think Wasser is growing into his nose at Guerlain. His new AA: Flora Nymphéa is probably the best one yet, it smells of quality, something most of the others truly lack; his Idylle wasn't bad and the new Guerlain Homme Eau is quite respectable. Everyone expects and deserves spectacular from Guerlain, but if Guerlain wants to get a slice of the younger crowds money they do need to lighten it up a bit and I think this is exactly what Wasser is over-seeing.
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    Sounds perfect for summer , just hope its not gone within the hour after applying

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    Default Re: La Cologne du Parfumeur by Guerlain - New Fragrance

    One more for the Guerlain haters to hate.
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    I hope it dosent smell like another existing best seller....

    perhaps Thierry Wasser is trying to impress the fans of the older Guerlains with his skill in making classic scent. I dont know.

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    Default Re: La Cologne du Parfumeur by Guerlain - New Fragrance

    Here's a better marketing angle : instead of saying that it was his personal cologne, he should have stated " I made it for JPGuerlain as a birthday gift" ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by zztopp View Post
    Here's a better marketing angle : instead of saying that it was his personal cologne, he should have stated " I made it for JPGuerlain as a birthday gift" ..
    LOL, then it would be La Colongue du mentor instead of Parfumer :P

    sadly, unlike JP Guerlain Thierry Wasser isnt exactly a celebrity yet. I bet some people would be like "who cares about his personal colongue"

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    Well let's see what it smells like.

    From the tone of various comments here and elswhere about T. Wasser and Guerlain and the LVMH thing it seems to me the guy has an uphill battle. Unlike J.C.E who was able to step into Hermes as their first in-house perfumer, T. Wasser is a younger outsider stepping into a dynasty with four generations of Guerlains before him . . . big shoes to fill.

    The sense I get from talking to at least one Guerlain insider, though, is that he is being encouraged by those on the inside to create (not just, or not only, 'deliver to the shareholders') and that joining the 'club of eaux' with the other four is Guerlain sending out the message that he is the next in line, and this is an endorsement of his arrival, if you will. I don't think it's an ego trip, he seems to be a genuinely humble guy to me, not the self promoting type.

    And if you step back a bit I think one could see this move to chronicle Guerlains heritage by naming each successive perfumer on the eaux bottle is part of a strategy to reasure the more cynical amongst us that LVMH is at making some effort to preserve the legacy of the place . . . let's hope so.

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    My only hope is that Thierry's next offering would be in the same vein as Samsara, Heritage etc. Or perhaps, it starts with an eaux?

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    I hope the cologne will be great!

    But the notes mentioned are for special drink that will be suggested to all customers in boutique 68, Champs d`Elysees when this cologne will be presented.
    Drink and cologne would complement each other, so notes of cocktail are very close to cologne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon_fish View Post
    I hope the cologne will be great!

    But the notes mentioned are for special drink that will be suggested to all customers in boutique 68, Champs d`Elysees when this cologne will be presented.
    Drink and cologne would complement each other, so notes of cocktail are very close to cologne.
    yeah i read that as well. 200 years ago when Colongues were first invented, they were meant for drinking like some sort of a cureall panecea. Interesting how Guerlain is trying to recreate something almost to that effect with the cocktail, since nowadays our EDCs use Perfumers alcohol and not drinking ones.

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    Hi, all!

    The name is Cologne du Parfumeur, not La Cologne du Parfumeur.

    If you're not a native French speaker, it probably won't strike you as wrong (and you might wonder why the fuss), but *I* am and I can't even begin to tell you how wrong it sounds to me. Cologne is not a noun (it is always spelt with a capital 'C') and cannot be preceded by an article. It is quite possible the French will adopt the English fashion of using it as a noun in the future, but not yet, and Guerlain hasn't in this case.

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    PS. Don't just take my word for it (LOL!): there is a pic of the bottle on The Scented Salamander.

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    Default Re: La Cologne du Parfumeur by Guerlain - New Fragrance

    Corrected it in the post :-) Thanks.

    Anyone find it odd the article notes this will launch at Bergdorfs before 68 Champs Elysées?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEoTY26 View Post
    Corrected it in the post :-) Thanks.

    Anyone find it odd the article notes this will launch at Bergdorfs before 68 Champs Elysées?
    That surprised the heck out of me too T.

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    I like the launch idea where one can "drink" the notes of the perfume. As the nose and tongue are so closely associated, why not?!

    I understand perfumes were made with potable alcohol and some women touched the scent to their tongues.

    (Notice how one cannot taste food well during a head cold...)
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    The poet Renée Vivien, who was a dipso- and etheromaniac, used to actually drink eau de Cologne to mask the smell of the noxious substances she was addicted to.

    Anyway, thanks for making the correction.

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    Looks like this will push me to further expand & enhance my formerly utilitarian drink:


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    Default Re: Cologne du Parfumeur by Guerlain - New Fragrance

    Bumping this thread to say I received a package from the Guerlain Boutique in Las Vegas today containing a nice note and two samples from the wonderful SA, Ms Tee.
    "I am so happy to send you the sample of our new La Cologne du Parfumeur"
    "La Cologne du Parfumeur should be arriving in USA around the end of May or beginning of June and I will email to check up on you then."

    i dabbed about 20 minutes ago; so far it's morphing quickly, just as you would expect from an EDC. It's not a bracing citrus opening, smooth and mild citrusy with the lavendar supporting it -and a tiny bit talcy or dry (but NOT powdery) Sorry if that does not make sense. I'm no foetidus or mrclmind.
    Very unisex.

    Edited 5/1 to add: apparently Guerlain HQ didn't even tell their SA's to skip the "La", as evidenced by the quotes cited in my 4/15 post.
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    In case anyone is still not convinced that the name is Cologne du Parfumeur (without an article), here is confirmation from Guerlain themselves. I emailed them the other day about it.

    'Selon le dossier de presse, je vous informe qu'il s'agit du nom "Cologne du Parfumeur".

    "Baptisée tout simplement Cologne du Parfumeur, cette eau mixte nous ouvre les portes d’un univers classique avec des notes d’agrumes comme la fleur d’oranger, le citron ou la bergamote, mais nous dévoile également des notes vertes et musquées plus originales” (extrait du dossier de presse).'


    Obviously, the English translator did a bad job on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bela View Post
    Hi, all!

    The name is Cologne du Parfumeur, not La Cologne du Parfumeur.

    If you're not a native French speaker, it probably won't strike you as wrong (and you might wonder why the fuss), but *I* am and I can't even begin to tell you how wrong it sounds to me. Cologne is not a noun (it is always spelt with a capital 'C') and cannot be preceded by an article. It is quite possible the French will adopt the English fashion of using it as a noun in the future, but not yet, and Guerlain hasn't in this case.
    Maybe it's just short for eau de cologne. Eau is grammatically feminine after all. En tout cas, ils peuvent nommer leurs affaires à leur gré; je m'en fous.

    I just bought this, but only tried it in the store. I haven't had a chance for a full wearing.

    Somewhere I read that perhaps Wasser is bowing to the old tradition of every apprentice perfumer having to produce an eau de cologne on becoming a master. Maybe an hommage to the Guerlains after becoming the firm's chief perfumer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaimeB View Post
    Maybe it's just short for eau de cologne. Eau is grammatically feminine after all. En tout cas, ils peuvent nommer leurs affaires à leur gré; je m'en fous.

    I just bought this, but only tried it in the store. I haven't had a chance for a full wearing.

    Somewhere I read that perhaps Wasser is bowing to the old tradition of every apprentice perfumer having to produce an eau de cologne on becoming a master. Maybe an hommage to the Guerlains after becoming the firm's chief perfumer?
    Thank you, JaimeB. I sampled this and found it did not last long on me. (Again, only a store sample.) It is indeed very citrusy. Just another eau fraiche, in the end. Yes, an apprentice must submit his "diploma" work as proof of his artisanship. (I think I will stick to Imperiale...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaimeB View Post
    Maybe it's just short for eau de cologne. Eau is grammatically feminine after all. En tout cas, ils peuvent nommer leurs affaires à leur gré; je m'en fous.
    *Obviously* Cologne is short for Eau de Cologne, but you are (possibly deliberately) missing the point. And the gender of 'Eau' has nothing to do with anything.

    The point is that *all over the Net*, that new fragrance has been called La Cologne du Parfumeur and that is not its name. Even if you are not a stickler for accuracy as I am, there was no need to be so rudely dismissive (I notice you wrote that bit of your message in French so others wouldn't be aware of how rude you were being).

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    Default Re: Cologne du Parfumeur by Guerlain - New Fragrance

    The reason we who wrote about Cologne du Parfumeur were adding the "La" in is in all of the press materials we were sent the name of this fragrance was La Cologne du Parfumeur. When we get preview samples we do not get full bottles and the name we go with is the one that Guerlain provided us. So while we were wrong by the time the bottles reached the store counters we were right based on the information we were given. I hope this clears up the idea of where the "La" came from.

    As far as the fragrance goes I think this is the best fragrance that Thierry Wasser has done for Guerlain. In the same press materials the back story for this is he was making this for personal use while designing Idylle. I think it shows Thierry Wasser being free to create without thinking about whether what he's making is a Guerlain and in that freedom has created something worthy of being a Guerlain.

    It does have all the hallmarks of traditional eau de colognes in that it is simply constructed of minimal notes and has very average longevity and sillage. If those things are very important for you then you will have a hard time embracing this fragrance. I love eau de colognes as a class and this is one of the best in my opinion.
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    Default Re: La Cologne du Parfumeur by Guerlain - New Fragrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Bela View Post
    *Obviously* Cologne is short for Eau de Cologne, but you are (possibly deliberately) missing the point. And the gender of 'Eau' has nothing to do with anything.

    The point is that *all over the Net*, that new fragrance has been called La Cologne du Parfumeur and that is not its name. Even if you are not a stickler for accuracy as I am, there was no need to be so rudely dismissive (I notice you wrote that bit of your message in French so others wouldn't be aware of how rude you were being).
    Allow me to make a public apology if my words offended anyone, especially you, monsieur. It was not my intention to be offensive to anyone on Basenotes. My words, of course, did not refer to you personally; if anything, they were directed at the giving of silly names to perfumes.

    Let me say further that my words were written in French not because they were directed to anyone in particular, but rather because the subject concerned the use of the French language. In my experience here on Basenotes, a number of people can read and understand French, and it is not the first time I have written a few words in French in a post.

    Perhaps my use of a very common expression in French was ill-considered. In my experience, French speakers use this quite liberally, and so long as it does not refer to a particular person, it seems rarely to cause offense. I simply meant it (perhaps casually or dismissively) to mean "I don't care." It was meant to dismiss the supposed naming as an issue for me, not to dismiss anyone or anyone's opinion.

    I believe I am correct in saying that my reputation on Basenotes as a frequent poster is not as one who is dismissive, but rather as a reconciler and an objective commentator. Perhaps I stepped out of that role for a moment to be a little flippant in French. Nevertheless, I hope my apologies will be seen and accepted as an effort to reconcile any inadvertent rudeness that may have been perceived.

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    I generally avoid arguments about small, unimportant matters like the word "La" - but as Guerlain IS a favourite subject of mine, allow me to show this advertisement:



    So now I'm wondering: Is this advertisement an ad for the WHOLE Eaux line (the small word "The" in front of Cologne to stress that this is an advertisement of the Guerlain perfumers' - any of them - EAUX and not their extraits), while "Cologne du Parfumeur" is the NAME of just Wasser's Eau? If so, it seems like Guerlain once more, on the occasion of Wasser's Eau, tries to put a spotlight on their old cologne tradition, normally standing back for their grand extraits...

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    I remember Jean Paul Guerlain in an interview telling how he created "Le" Vetiver ...but in french (as french is my native language) the use of the article "la" mostly depends on the sentence and on the way you want to underline a common noun and cologne is a common noun (the short way to say eau de cologne)..."La" thus means uniqueness
    for example "Aujourd'hui, je porte La cologne du Parfumeur"
    after a proper noun, you usually don't use an article ; except if you put adjective before the name " Je porte le sublime Shalimar"

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    Tried it today at Bergdorf Goodman. In a word, Glorious! No big revolution here, just a crystal clear Eau de Cologne with a nice cedar accord added. Thierry Wasser's name is upfront on the label. Didn't catch the price, but I'm sure it's ridiculous considering it's a Guerlain.
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