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  1. #31

    Default Re: Newbie asking for a recommendation - in a weird way

    It will be a while until I can test most of them.

    This forum looks dangerous though. For my wallet.
    Last edited by sarıpatates; 17th April 2010 at 02:30 AM.

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    Querelle by Parfumerie Generale

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    Default Re: Newbie asking for a recommendation - in a weird way

    Quote Originally Posted by sarıpatates View Post
    This forum looks dangerous though. For my wallet.
    +1 Quoted for truth. LOL.

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    This is a very interesting question indeed!

    The fragrance that immediately comes to mind for me is Parfumerie Generale L'Eau Guerriere
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  5. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarıpatates View Post
    It will be a while until I can test most of them.

    This forum looks dangerous though. For my wallet.
    you are right you have to have a lot of self control be afraid very afraid lol

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    Ok, an update. I'll be writing this with as much objectivity and honesty as possible.

    After seeing the most common element was vetiver, I took off to get to know it. I realize now it's not easy to understand it completely as I've already seen so many different faces of it.

    My first stop was L'occitane. I tested their "vetyver" In retrospect I'm glad it was the first scent I smelled, this was the greenest, most herbal vetiver of all.

    My second stop was guerlain's vetiver. I think I had high expectations of it. I thought it was good, but very focused to do its job, being a functional fragrance. If that makes sense. It wasn't as raw as L'occitane's vetyver either.

    Then... I tried Encre Noire. I was literally blown away. It was like a simple sentence with deep implications. I don't know if it's just the vetiver, but the quality I attribute to it is definitely a whole new face of the ingredient. I bought it, just because it's already an excellent fragrance, and suits my usual tastes perfectly. But by itself, it was not what I set out to find. There is barely any sky, or wideness. It's distant but tight. Though I digress, any review I can make can wait until I wear it for a while.

    According to my list, and the boy at the shop, I had exhausted my options available there. So I hung around a bit, smelling my wrist drenched in encre noire.
    While checking the shelves, I saw an intriguing bottle. It was named Kenzo Air. Huh, I said. Maybe I should check this as well. I sprayed some on my available inner elbow... And nothing? All I could smell was vetiver, probably due to a fatigued nose, and the scent I was already wearing. I waited a while, smelled my inner elbow again. No. I had it sprayed to a card before I left.

    We sat at a coffee shop to rest. After drinking my coffee and being confident that my nose was probably ready for action again I smelled the card and wow. Vetiver. And a great smell overall. I decided to give it another shot from beginning to end another time.

    Next day, which is today, I visited another shop just to try Kenzo Air again. To cut to chase, I loved it more than I though I would. A very open and totally great scent. The vetiver was much more similar to Encre Noire than the other ones, but with a much different feel to it. If it had some dirt to it, and some misty air, this could be perfect. Kenzo? I thought. I don't know how it's perceived in other places, but the Pour Homme was today's Gio back at times. That made me remember Kenzo pour Homme. I loved the scent when it was around despite the stigma attributed to it. And if I remembered correctly, it definitely had a "reverbed" misty high altitude (or ocean) air.

    I went and sprayed some Kenzo Pour Homme on my Kenzoair'ed wrist. I thought, and I still think, it's a great combination, albeit makeshift and uncontrolled. Which I don't like. I humbly think some attributes of Kenzo Pour homme combined with most of Kenzo Air, with a part of moist soil and mushrooms sitting close to skin would be almost perfect.

    After I came back home, and found out that Terre d'Hermes is also a vetiver including scent, and earthy enough to deserve a Terre in its name. I will check it out as well. I will also do my best to hunt down at least some samples of the rarer fragrances mentioned here in the mean time.

    I already got myself a great fragrance out of this, and got to know a wonderful ingredient, so thanks a lot. I'll keep updating this.
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    Very Irrésistible for Men (2005)
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    http://www.basenotes.net/ID26124468.html

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    Dirt ozone dry grass puts me in the mind of vetiver...but which one will suit is the question.

    Tauer's Vetiver Dance has a very earthy opening and felt very raw to me.

    Creed's Original Vetiver with which I am not personally familiar has many fans.

    Gueralin's Vetiver maybe to subtle and refined for you. (NOT meaning you're not refined!)

    Encre Noir I see you liked. It's unique.

    Creeds Vetiver (1948) might be a bit too elegant; not earthy enough.

    I do like Green Irish Tweed, but it seems less deep and friendlier than what you seek.
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  9. #39

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    DIOR FAHRENHEIT is what you are looking for.

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    Nice notes about those three you tried and I generally agree with your assessment of them.

    - I found the L'Occitanes in general a little harsh and sharp, like home-ade chemistry. I think its got some clove or nutmeg or something in there. Not well rounded, but they are affordable and surprisingly good. A little too rugged for me though.
    - The Guerlain Vetiver I also really like, it's much more complex and at times I find it a little dirty and ashy (tobacco notes).
    - The Encre Noire is probably the most unique IMO, but too cold for my tastes. To me it's a wood fire on a cold crisp night. PS, scentedmonkey had 50ml bottles for under $30... the 100ml is $37, plus add a discount... http://www.scentmonkey.com/product.php?code=M-3128

    Lastly, if you want a touch of sweetness, and you don't really like money, have you tried Chanel Sycomore? also a smokey Vetiver, lasts pretty well, sweet and smokey.

    As for Terre D'Hermes, yes it's got vetiver and it's "earthy", but I feel like it's fundamentally a warm frag. like I picture a warm sunbaked stone in the sand. To me it's a dry heat with a little spicy and some sparkling orange to begin. Your picture makes me think of cold and damp. Still a great frag though, so maybe you'll like it.

    I'd still suggest trying out GIT if you can, just because it's generally so well recieved.
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    I guess what you're are looking for doesn't really come in one fragrance only. It seems you can get different aspects of it from different scents. Another one I can recommend is S-eX by S-Perfume if you looking for space or vastness. Though, it doesn't have the green grassy or dirt earthiness you're looking for.
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    Master-Classter thanks for your reply. I like money, but it doesn't like me too much. Still I will try to test Sycomore as well.
    Some of the perfumes previosly mentioned, including GIT, are hopefully on their way to me in sample bottles. I don't have high hopes for it really, but maybe that's for the best.

    I think fireplace on a cold night is a very apt description of encre noire. I love it. I already bought a 100ml of it, but that price is very good. Thanks for letting me know.

    Guerlain vetiver, well.. I think it's a perfume for men that wear suits. I don't wear suits. And I don't get dirt at all. It's squeaky clean for my nose.

    I haven't tested Terre D'Hermes yet, but I will soon. Thanks a lot.

    @nsamadi:
    I'm still hopeful that I can get near. But I DO get different aspects of it from different scents. Time will tell

    @adesor: I've been wearing fahrenheit for 13 years or so. I love it. And I think I get why you recommend it. It has a cold, distant breeze to it, even though it is not a fresh scent at all.

    @stylinLA: thanks for the reply and recommendations, and lol. I absolutely understand what you mean by that refinement remark.

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    I think you'll find that Sycomore is very similar to Encre Noire, though Sycomore is a touch more refined (and a LOT more expensive)

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    KOUROS.


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