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    Default Bond No. 9 New Haarlem

    Would I like this if coffee is not my favorite note?

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    Nooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Default Re: Bond No. 9 New Haarlem

    No. Try Rochas Man instead.

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    You might. I'm clearly biased since New Haarlem is my favorite ever but there's quite a bit going on there other than the coffee. Try it.
    Rochas Man is too sweet.

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    Default Re: Bond No. 9 New Haarlem

    I think if you like those flavored coffees with caramel, whip-cream, and a truck-load of sugar, and want to smell like that, then New Haarlem is an excellent choice.

    For the smell of the beans or a black cup of coffee, look elsewhere.
    Last edited by Sugandaraja; 7th May 2010 at 01:33 AM.

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    Default Re: Bond No. 9 New Haarlem

    I just gave it a brief in store sniff. The coffee was not overwhelming. It smells inordinately close to Rochas Man.
    I get more lavender, vanilla, touch of chocolate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StylinLA View Post
    I just gave it a brief in store sniff. The coffee was not overwhelming. It smells inordinately close to Rochas Man.
    I get more lavender, vanilla, touch of chocolate.
    I puzzle over how people compare Rochas man to New Haarlem. Since they were made by the same guy the skeleton is the same so to speak but the ingridients are so amazingly different that to my nose they're not at all reminiscent of each other.
    I mean, they're in the same gourmandy ballpark but completely different. Rochas man is smooth sweet cotton candy-like giving-you-cavities-as-you're-smelling-it while New Haarlem is astringent with more prominent florals and coffee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladdypwnz View Post
    I puzzle over how people compare Rochas man to New Haarlem. Since they were made by the same guy the skeleton is the same so to speak but the ingridients are so amazingly different that to my nose they're not at all reminiscent of each other.
    I mean, they're in the same gourmandy ballpark but completely different. Rochas man is smooth sweet cotton candy-like giving-you-cavities-as-you're-smelling-it while New Haarlem is astringent with more prominent florals and coffee.
    I completely agree. I own both Rochas Man and New Haarlem and despite having similar layouts they don't smell much alike. They're both gourmands but as you said, Rochas Man is a smooth sugary vanilla lavender with anise and a hint of coffee. New Haarlem is a less sweet strong coffee scent blended equally with other notes reminiscent of caramel, green notes and slight florals.

    The same notes definitely don't equal the same fragrance.
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    If you don't like coffee notes, then you had better like lavender ones if you are going to enjoy it !
    Last edited by Bigsly; 7th May 2010 at 03:05 AM.

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    I think you would like Rochas Man better, I don't smell any coffee in it, just sweet vanilla and lavender with a little resemblance to Givenchy Pi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladdypwnz View Post
    I puzzle over how people compare Rochas man to New Haarlem. Since they were made by the same guy the skeleton is the same so to speak but the ingridients are so amazingly different that to my nose they're not at all reminiscent of each other.
    I mean, they're in the same gourmandy ballpark but completely different. Rochas man is smooth sweet cotton candy-like giving-you-cavities-as-you're-smelling-it while New Haarlem is astringent with more prominent florals and coffee.
    Quote Originally Posted by LoneWolf View Post
    I completely agree. I own both Rochas Man and New Haarlem and despite having similar layouts they don't smell much alike. They're both gourmands but as you said, Rochas Man is a smooth sugary vanilla lavender with anise and a hint of coffee. New Haarlem is a less sweet strong coffee scent blended equally with other notes reminiscent of caramel, green notes and slight florals.

    The same notes definitely don't equal the same fragrance.
    I agree with both of these guys. I've said it dozens of times--New Haarlem is to Rochas Man what Green Irish Tweed is to Cool Water. In other words, there may be vague similarities but NH and GIT are in a class by themselves.
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    Default Re: Bond No. 9 New Haarlem

    A+ frag, highly recommended. Very sweet and edible.
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    Default Re: Bond No. 9 New Haarlem

    No you would not like this fragrance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugandaraja View Post
    For the smell of the beans or a black cup of coffee, look elsewhere.
    Where?! for god sake where?!

    on my coffee list is:
    A*Men Pure Coffee - hard to find
    Ava Luxe Cafe Noir - apparently exactly what i want but a little pricey, only in oil form, and only small amounts for sale.

    Malone Black Vetiver Cafe - smells great for all of about 5 minutes then it's gone
    Rochas - more like a warm sugary drink, not dark bitter roast coffee
    CSP Vanilla Mokha - more like a latte or cappuccino - getting close but not quite
    Penhaligons Endemion - coffee note sure but lots else
    Polo Double Black - ok, right idea but it's also a strong mango, and the juice is really subtle.


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    Default Re: Bond No. 9 New Haarlem

    1. I don't understand the Cafe Noir auction price since their site still sells it for about $25 instead of $50 in the auction.

    2. Looking for OTHER/NEW recommendations... (thanks for the links though!)
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    Default Re: Bond No. 9 New Haarlem

    Quote Originally Posted by neal View Post
    Would I like this if coffee is not my favorite note?
    No, you wouldn't. New Haarlem is coffee note centric.
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    Default Re: Bond No. 9 New Haarlem

    Do you think it has some similarities with P-G Coze, and M-P-G Eau des Iles?

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