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    Default Re: Why I Hate the Mall

    I like the advice given by Ronin and MrCologneGuy in this thread.

    I also want to say that the fragrance counters seem to attract certain "types" of persons ( if you know what I mean). Not all of them, but alot. But I think trying to make the best of the situation is the way to go. I tend to buy alot of samples anyways. It makes me spend much more money, but I don't have much of a choice because.........I hate the mall.

    I dislike loud booming music. I dislike packs of people acting obnoxious. I dislike every store being as uninteresting as the next one. I just dislike the make up of the modern shopping mall. Thankfully there is a couple of fragrance shops I feel okay going to.

    But I like Basenotes.
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    When it comes to fragrance shopping, I find most malls are completely dreadful. Some of the upscale ones that have stores like Hermes, Chanel, Neiman Marcus - they carry Tom Ford, Creed, Guerlain, etc., one can keep one decently amused. But nothing replaces a great independent shop that carries things like Czech & Speake, Amouage, Heeley, Ulrich Lang, Histoire des Parfums. It's sad that the US has so few of these shops.
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    My favorite shops to find are the small holes in the wall ones, in the mom & pop tradition. They're usually packed with high shelves with old Guerlain, Chanel, Dior, and Caron stuff. Best of all they have the smaller, minor houses like Alain Delon, Moribito, Carlo Corinto, Molinard, and the lesser known ones by Azzaro, say, or Jean Patou. These are the places that don't have mall-shop corporate money to buy their space and have everything crammed in.

    These shops are hard to find. My metropolitan area used to have four but now has two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DustB View Post
    My favorite shops to find are the small holes in the wall ones, in the mom & pop tradition. They're usually packed with high shelves with old Guerlain, Chanel, Dior, and Caron stuff. Best of all they have the smaller, minor houses like Alain Delon, Moribito, Carlo Corinto, Molinard, and the lesser known ones by Azzaro, say, or Jean Patou. These are the places that don't have mall-shop corporate money to buy their space and have everything crammed in.

    These shops are hard to find. My metropolitan area used to have four but now has two.
    My goodness, I would love to have those types of shops in my area. Color me jealous ( or is it envy?). I would lose all my money , though I find the idea of those shops exciting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfacing View Post
    My goodness, I would love to have those types of shops in my area. Color me jealous ( or is it envy?). I would lose all my money , though I find the idea of those shops exciting.
    Surfacing, I couldn't believe my good luck several times I went into the ones here. Azzaro Acteur, Balenciaga Ho Hang Club, Fragonard Zizanie, Jicky pdt, ancient Tabac Blonde exrait, both Patou Pour Homme, Heritage edp, and others I can't remember. I was buddies with one of the owners of one that closed and he was happy to sell me testers and happy to sell odd thing when he had to close the shop. It was really great. Part of the fun of his independent store was that unlike the mall shops like Sephora, the high-school and college women who worked at his shop all really and truly knew their stuff. It was they who pointed out how Bandit is like Bel Ami sorta, they who said Chopard's Madness is a hilarious and delicious delight, and they who teased me because "you like all the trashy ones."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
    Oh don't get me started on this one. The worst was the SA who after much persuasion, grudgingly sprayed a drop of Diorissimo on her finger and then dabbed it on my arm. I was livid (well, almost). Was I supposed to buy fragrances blind?
    LOL... champion. She probably wanted to make sure she got some on herself (finger) if she was going to spare a drop for you. *shakes head*

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustB View Post
    Surfacing, I couldn't believe my good luck several times I went into the ones here. Azzaro Acteur, Balenciaga Ho Hang Club, Fragonard Zizanie, Jicky pdt, ancient Tabac Blonde exrait, both Patou Pour Homme, Heritage edp, and others I can't remember. I was buddies with one of the owners of one that closed and he was happy to sell me testers and happy to sell odd thing when he had to close the shop. It was really great. Part of the fun of his independent store was that unlike the mall shops like Sephora, the high-school and college women who worked at his shop all really and truly knew their stuff. It was they who pointed out how Bandit is like Bel Ami sorta, they who said Chopard's Madness is a hilarious and delicious delight, and they who teased me because "you like all the trashy ones."
    That is just awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
    But I blame the store owner. When you pay in peanuts, you only get monkeys working for you.
    And that's the quote for the day!
    BN members know more about fragrances than the average SA's--Some of us know far more than some store owners.

    SA's usually amuse more than anger me.

    The men pronounce " Hermes " not only with a silent H, but with an over the top French accent that would make Parisians cringe.
    The women wax ecstatic about how they drooled with a certain frag on their BF--coincidentally the one the store's pushing that week.

    It's really rather sad. Among the most underpaid jobs are retail and fast food.
    And if you're a waiter at middle-class restaurant I suppose you'd be taught to ask customers if they'd like pommes frites instead of " french fries" with their California Nouvelle Cheeseburger.

    ( Probably why the best food I've eaten has been in either are lower or higher class joints )

    Middle class tends to thrive on glitz, brand names, overpricing and pretentiousness.
    Welcome to 99% of malls!

    The funniest 'encounter' I had was not with frags, it was a men's clothing store. I tried on a leather jacket and asked about the price.
    It was--I can't say outrageously---it was absurdly expensive.
    Truly worthy of an AB/FAB episode

    The SA explained: " Oh but you see, it's made by . . . Raphael "
    Before I knew it I shot back with: " But he's been dead for 400 years. "

    Well, at least the customers were amused.

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    As fragrance aficionados, the mall SAs are just something we have to learn to deal with. Unless they are very into their job, most of us will have way more knowledge than they do. The only ones I've run into with any depth of knowledge are the ones that have been in their job awhile and work at higher end stores. Few have heard of Basenotes, which always surprises me. Unless you build some rapport with an SA and they get to know you a bit, they'll always be pushing stuff at you. It's their job.

    In the average mall, this is a "job" for the SA, not a career path to pursue with zeal. In their average work week, it's unlikely they run into more than one or two people nearly as discerning as most of us. In my life, I observe that men in particular are on average real dummies when it comes to frags.

    There is a perfume cart at an outdoor mall near me that is a constant source of amusement. Half the cart is filled with classics at not unreasonable prices (Caron, Guerlain and others). Half the cart is really rank, cheap faux designer smell alike junk that can be found online for $20 or less. The SA aggressively- very aggressively - pushes these horrific designer frags at the "bargain" price of $50. They only have open testers for the cheap junk.

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