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    Default Re: in defense of: Original Santal by Creed

    As much as l like pleasing the ladies, I must be able to stand it myself. On me, I get a cinnamon note that is not pretty. Yankee Candle makes a better cinnamon.

    This is unfortunate since Creed can apparently get their hands on some awesome sandalwood; Original Vetiver has it. All Creed had to do was let the sandalwood shine through. It's beautiful and needs few supporting notes.

    Glad it works for some.

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    Default Re: in defense of: Original Santal by Creed

    Anyone who thinks Original Santal is a sillage monster hasn't tried the 70s and 80s mens classic colognes, the heavy orientals currently doing the rounds in niche fragrances, or even Creed's own Royal Delight, Fleurs de Bulgarie, or Jasmin Impeatrice.
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    Default Re: in defense of: Original Santal by Creed

    I do think it stacks up with those other Creeds in terms of sillage. We get sillage of both OS and FdB around these parts, and I'd say they give each other a run for the money!

    OS is an interesting frag. Applied too strongly in multiple sprays, it's cloying and objectionable to me. Applied too weakly, like a mist-and-walk-through, it's dry and one-dimensional. But when I get this stuff on in a single wet spot, it's just memorable as hell. Some frags seem to work for me no matter how I apply them, but OS is not one of them.

    People bitch incessantly about the need for more powerhouse frags - well, OS is a good one. Too much for everyday wear, but good when I want something that flexes some olfactory muscle.
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    Default Re: in defense of: Original Santal by Creed

    Quote Originally Posted by zztopp View Post
    Anyone who thinks Original Santal is a sillage monster hasn't tried the 70s and 80s mens classic colognes, the heavy orientals currently doing the rounds in niche fragrances, or even Creed's own Royal Delight, Fleurs de Bulgarie, or Jasmin Impeatrice.
    DoubleZed, I'll have to check those latter out. I have always liked Royal Delight, and I love a rose, and I love a jasmin. Time to give the latter two a visit.
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    Default Re: in defense of: Original Santal by Creed

    Quote Originally Posted by DustB View Post
    DoubleZed, I'll have to check those latter out. I have always liked Royal Delight, and I love a rose, and I love a jasmin. Time to give the latter two a visit.
    Definitely! FdB is one of the classiest retro rose scents out there, and JIE is just a stunner. Mimi also likes Jasmal - I've always been a fan of JIE, but I want to see how I feel about Jasmal after a close comparison to JIE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    I do think it stacks up with those other Creeds in terms of sillage. We get sillage of both OS and FdB around these parts, and I'd say they give each other a run for the money!
    Do you think that OS's timid drydown of tonka and a tiny vanilla note can compare to FdBs flush, intense drydown of ambergris, musk and rose ? Either I am wearing a wrong OS version or we are getting a vastly different drydown...
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    Default Re: in defense of: Original Santal by Creed

    Quote Originally Posted by zztopp View Post
    Do you think that OS's timid drydown of tonka and a tiny vanilla note can compare to FdBs flush, intense drydown of ambergris, musk and rose ? Either I am wearing a wrong OS version or we are getting a vastly different drydown...
    I'll admit I'm pretty much ignoring the drydown. But on my skin, I don't get to drydown for about 12 hours with OS. I get huge sillage for about 6-8 hours, decent projection out to 12 hours, and 12 MORE hours of drydown. My wife gets sillage for 3-4 hours with FdB, and tapering off over 8 hours after that. But in the morning when we're both sillaging heavily during those first few hours, it's a horse-race (a good-smelling one, mind you).
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    OS and Joop are like distant cousins. Joop is synthetic and nauseating where OS is more pleasant and classy. You can definitely tell the difference between the two in that CREED uses MUCH better ingredients.

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    I love OS, in fact it's the only Creed I like enough to own, which I do.
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    This is actually my favourite Creed. My appreciation for many of their heavy hitters has diminished over time (GIT, OV, BdP, etc), but I go back to this bottle all the time.

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    Royal Delight is indeed a sillage monster but I also hold REL in the same regard.
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    I love OS. So did my brother, so i had to give him my first bottle (seeing i had several other Creeds). The re-emergence of this thread very recently inspired(!!!) me to replace the first OS.

    On the noted difference in power between the top and base, I must admire Creed's marketing, knock it as many are prone to do. Shoppers (potential revenue contributors) are getting younger and have more choice. Many of them are not aficionados but have disposable cash. If they came across the overwhelming range of Creed offerings and sniffed as much as olfactorily possible, i would bet that OS would be familiar-ground (of much better quality) to most. The powerful top is, IMO, a magnet of sorts. People will take notice.

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    I was sent a sample of this to try from my Creed product specialist and wore it for the first time today. In the beginning the top notes were refreshing with a bit of the juniper berry with subtle cinnamon overtones and finally the coriander. I did not get the strong cinnamon gum wave people mentioned previously. I find the middle notes of sandalwood, lavender, rosemary, ginger and orange tree to be a little less appealing. I love sandalwood but somehow the combination of notes seems to be a little too sweet and perfume like. I do like a little of the base notes of Tonka beans and vanilla but feel the residual sandalwood notes muddies this and the hole fragrance move more toward the sweet side. I personally, am not a sweet sent lover. I will try this a second time and I'm warming up to Original Santal but not sure this would ever be in my top pics.

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    Default Re: in defense of: Original Santal by Creed

    Quote Originally Posted by perfaddict View Post
    I love OS. So did my brother, so i had to give him my first bottle (seeing i had several other Creeds). The re-emergence of this thread very recently inspired(!!!) me to replace the first OS.

    On the noted difference in power between the top and base, I must admire Creed's marketing, knock it as many are prone to do. Shoppers (potential revenue contributors) are getting younger and have more choice. Many of them are not aficionados but have disposable cash. If they came across the overwhelming range of Creed offerings and sniffed as much as olfactorily possible, i would bet that OS would be familiar-ground (of much better quality) to most. The powerful top is, IMO, a magnet of sorts. People will take notice.

    This will be my SotD tomorrow. I cant wait............
    I agree completely - OS stands out of the lineup, and is something of a magnet. In fact, I was initially attracted to it exactly as you describe. The lineup was overwhelming and not sorting itself out for me. OS jumped out while testing - and BAM - I bought it. It wasn't until later that the quiet Creeds got a hold of me.
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    My final note about Original Santal. I wore this today and someone said that the scent reminded them of hairspray.

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    Hairspray?? Really??

    Although it's not the best Creed, it's far from the worst. It's biggest crime will always be that it's mistaken for Joop (albeit a far more subtle variant).

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    I liked OS but I'm finding that frags with too much cinnamon in it tickles my nose to the point of making me want to sneeze. It's better for me in the dry down with the nose tickle but I can't wait all that time for it to come. I like it though.

    It's not all cinnamon, like in tea or food, just in frags. Must be the synthetic variety not the natural kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusInKensington View Post
    Hairspray?? Really??

    Although it's not the best Creed, it's far from the worst. It's biggest crime will always be that it's mistaken for Joop (albeit a far more subtle variant).
    They thought OS was O.K. early in the day but felt that it just resembled hairspray after many hours.

    It's about 12 hours after application of Original Santal and i can still get a strong scent. After this amount of time it has a great deal of Sandalwood, Tonka Bean and Vanilla. I detect absolutely no hairspray.
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    Wich is more closely?

    Green Irish Tweed -> Cool Water
    Original Santal -> Joop

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    Quote Originally Posted by d4N13L View Post
    Wich is more closely?

    Green Irish Tweed -> Cool Water
    Original Santal -> Joop
    Original Santal to Joop.....far closer.....both compositionally and qualitatively.

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    Wow, if OS is more close to Joop than GIT to CW, so its exactly the same!!
    Dont know if i will buy OS anymore, i have Joop, and i think nothing will last more than Joop.

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