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    Default Re: Bleu de Chanel by Chanel - New fragrance

    Quote Originally Posted by moon_fish View Post
    Oh come on!!!
    So nobody could remember 28 La Pausa, Coromandel, #18, 31 Rue Cambon, Sycomore, etc?
    Or those are not relevant fragrances anymore?
    And they did not require any perfumer`s work whoever they were?

    I believe that Les Exclusifs de Chanel is blessing and damned thing to Polge+Sheldrake.
    They just made the collection of so high level of exorbitant quality that truly outstands any luxury standards - so we began to expect SOMETHING MORE in usual Chanel`s luxury perfumes.
    False expectations.
    Luxe perfumes are luxe perfumes. They have a (definitely lower) budget. They have a (strict) brief. They have a (detalised and profit-oriented) marketing plan. And they have a lot of other people involved in perfume-creation process.
    I do not suppose that all of them aren`t as brilliant as Polge - they just pull in their own side. And the thing comes to grey-blue colour.
    And it`s not new - what, there`re no lovers/haters of previous luxe by Chanel: Egoiste, Egoiste Platinum, Allure, Pour Monsieur? Yes, there`re. Some loves, some hates, some cannot understand the hype, etc.
    Or maybe they are extra-original? Only for blinded by love fans of some scent.

    So... sorry for my long text. thanks for your attention.
    Take the long story short: lets don`t expect much from any new scent. It pays.
    I'm not including Les Exclusifs as part of this discussion. What Chanel masculine (non exclusif) do you consider bottle worthy since Egoiste was released (1990)?

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    Default Re: Bleu de Chanel by Chanel - New fragrance

    Quote Originally Posted by KMF View Post
    I'm not including Les Exclusifs as part of this discussion. What Chanel masculine (non exclusif) do you consider bottle worthy since Egoiste was released (1990)?
    Why wouldn't you include the Les Exclusifs? I suspect that the male fragrance market is far more competitive than it was back in 1990, and for Chanel to maintain is relevance it must keep its name on the tip of consumers' tongues. It's mainstream range has become similar to that of Guerlain, simply means to pay the bills. I wouldn't expect much of anything released to the mainstream market in nowadays.
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    I smelled this today. What a cheap, synthetic, waste of resources this is. Its simply not needed in the fragrance world. Very disappointed indeed!
    Is the juice worth the squeeze?

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    The aftershave, watered down, makes my impression of it even worse.



    I'll stick to Edition Blanche as my next likely buy for Chanel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtgprox05 View Post
    Why wouldn't you include the Les Exclusifs? I suspect that the male fragrance market is far more competitive than it was back in 1990, and for Chanel to maintain is relevance it must keep its name on the tip of consumers' tongues. It's mainstream range has become similar to that of Guerlain, simply means to pay the bills. I wouldn't expect much of anything released to the mainstream market in nowadays.
    I agree somewhat, but to be honest, I don't even know where the Chanel boutique is, and since Chanel only sell women's clothing, no guy would think of going in by themselves, and they'd probably consider them women's fragrances. So I'd consider that the Les Exclusifs line is essentially for women, even though it's not labeled as such.

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    Default Re: Bleu de Chanel by Chanel - New fragrance

    I smelled this briefly on a test strip. I perceived the opening as a more expensive smelling alternative to Cool Water, incorporating Chanel's house-note. I still prefer Cool Water to this, but that's the first thing to come to mind. I'm not a big fan of Chanel to begin with, however I love Allure Sport Cologne Sport.

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    Default Re: Bleu de Chanel by Chanel - New fragrance

    I've been riding around with the test strip in the car, and if the strip is any indication, longevity shouldn't be an issue with this one. It has kept my car pretty fragrant for 2 days now.

    I still need to go back and do a proper skin test. However, as I mentioned in an earlier post, it went through a phase on the card (briefly) were I was reminded of something from A&F. The smell had changed when I got in the car this morning, and for most of today I've been trying to figure out what it reminds me of now. Then it hit me - DKNY Men (the new one).

    Skin test in my future. Bottle worthy - IDK.

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    Default Re: Bleu de Chanel by Chanel - New fragrance

    Quote Originally Posted by mtgprox05 View Post
    Why wouldn't you include the Les Exclusifs? I suspect that the male fragrance market is far more competitive than it was back in 1990, and for Chanel to maintain is relevance it must keep its name on the tip of consumers' tongues. It's mainstream range has become similar to that of Guerlain, simply means to pay the bills. I wouldn't expect much of anything released to the mainstream market in nowadays.
    I wouldn't include the Les Exclusifs because i'm trying to make an apples to apples comparison. Comparing a mainstream fragrance marketed to men with $200 niche scents that aren't (are any Les Exclusifs marketed to men?) isn't an apples to apples comparison. What percentage of men even know what the Les Exclusifs are? As far as paying the bills is concerned, I'm sure when Antaeus & Egoiste were first released, they didn't have a problem paying the bills. You don't pay the bills by releasing "me too", you pay them by being better without charging an arm and a leg for it. I realize you can't make something like Antaeus today and expect it to be successful, but surely Chanel can do better than this, without charging me $200 for the privilege...

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    Default Re: Bleu de Chanel by Chanel - New fragrance

    Quote Originally Posted by KMF View Post
    I wouldn't include the Les Exclusifs because i'm trying to make an apples to apples comparison. Comparing a mainstream fragrance marketed to men with $200 niche scents that aren't (are any Les Exclusifs marketed to men?) isn't an apples to apples comparison. What percentage of men even know what the Les Exclusifs are? As far as paying the bills is concerned, I'm sure when Antaeus & Egoiste were first released, they didn't have a problem paying the bills. You don't pay the bills by releasing "me too", you pay them by being better without charging an arm and a leg for it. I realize you can't make something like Antaeus today and expect it to be successful, but surely Chanel can do better than this, without charging me $200 for the privilege...
    I agree with the idea that Les Exclusifs are relevant , but I also agree with your idea that Chanel could do better in their mainstream frags. Bleu is far from bad IMO, but it's just not WOW material, of which there are several in the mainline feminines, including some recent ones.

    It's pretty clear that the brief was to make a "blue" frag and jump on the blue bandwagon - and it was almost certainly marketing-driven. Starting with the brief, Chanel could have done better. But given the likely HUGE constraints put upon the project, it's not all that bad.
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    Default Re: Bleu de Chanel by Chanel - New fragrance

    A friend of mine and I agree that Aramis Cool Blend is much better than Bleu.

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    I want so much to expand my wardrobe with Chanel fragrance but so far I can't find anything that would justify its high price. And after reading this thread... my hopes are lost .
    TOP 3 hot weather:

    1. Gucci Pour Homme II
    2. Creed Millesime Imperial
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    1. Dior Homme
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    Quote Originally Posted by KMF View Post
    I'm not including Les Exclusifs as part of this discussion. What Chanel masculine (non exclusif) do you consider bottle worthy since Egoiste was released (1990)?
    I have and wear Egoiste, but also FB of Egoiste Platinum and Allure Homme by Chanel. All of them fit your question. And pre-Egoiste colognes, Pour Monsieur & Antaeus also.

    And I would not exclude Les Exclusifs from the list.
    Partly being reasoned that it required some perfumer`s work.
    Partly because we`re Basenoters, and we are the group of well-informed people, devoted to perfumes & "spoiled" by reviews of each other, by reviews of C. Burr and L. Turin, by hellovalot of perfumebloggers which are sometimes pure geniuses of perfume history etc;
    we do know about Andy Tauer, Serge Lutens, Fr. Malle, Parfumerie Generale perfumes etc - and those are the brands that could not be easily found in Macy`s (US) or Sephora (France) or L`Etoile (Russia).
    we do remember all those vintages which were forgotten by masses - Djedi & Sous le Vent Guerlain, Genghis Khan by Morandiere, Vetiver Givenchy, Sagamore Lancome, and all those forgotten gems from the past.
    we are looking for the originality and innovation in perfumery - not just good smell, aren`t we?
    and how many people do you know from your neighbourhood - who looks for the same?
    NOONE near me!
    All my perfume-adviser experience in my city tells me - people likes to smell alike! Like friends, like colleagues, like relatives, etc. They are looking for something that will be approved by other. Not original, but safe. And I wear some original scents by Malle or Tauer without any good comments from others - they just does not know what is it? They does not have smth to compare with, or say "yammy smell"!
    Now, I`m sure they will like BdC. It will be commercial HIT this or next year.

    But we BNoters make our estimation of Bleu de Chanel being more informed and dare I say - picky.
    I`m not going to say - BdC is the perfect pinnacle of 2010 perfumery, but it`s worth its money.
    And I`ll look forward for other scents too. Yes, for innovation & originality. And I hope next year Chanel will launch some perfume in Les Exclusifs collection.
    Vetiver The Great!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    Yes, there is this point in the beginning that I find REALLY interesting - but it fades out with the topnotes. Just GONE. If they could bottle and freeze-frame that in an intense version, no matter how linear, it would be most awesome.
    Me and you have the same wishes of linear everlasting "points in development"..........the singularity is near. let's just hope we can team with turin's resonant-vibration-olfactory-synonym-software and non-toxic-extreme-volatility-modifiers to highlight every greatest peak in the greatest frags O.A.T.......and even some peaks of the lessers.........




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    So far, Chanel Bleu will be my birthday scent gift at the end of August. I always get a scent, and this is the current leader. Maybe I should consider a 1 OZ of Aventus?

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    Default Re: Bleu de Chanel by Chanel - New fragrance

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckW View Post
    So far, Chanel Bleu will be my birthday scent gift at the end of August. I always get a scent, and this is the current leader. Maybe I should consider a 1 OZ of Aventus?
    it sounds like you could get more BANG for your buck. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonyprince View Post
    it sounds like you could get more BANG for your buck. :-)
    Is that you, Marc? LOL!

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    When is it available in the States??? It's available August 16 in Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Picasso View Post
    When is it available in the States??? It's available August 16 in Canada.
    My Macys SA says they will receive it Aug. 16 as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock_With_Scents View Post
    My Macys SA says they will receive it Aug. 16 as well.
    When I was at Macy's three days ago, I saw them unboxing it from their shipment.

    Must be a nationwide launch then... from what I could see, there wasn't an initial exclusive.
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    In Russia it will be available from 15th August. Waiting with a 1% of hope.

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    Default Re: Bleu de Chanel by Chanel - New fragrance

    Quote Originally Posted by KMF View Post
    I wouldn't include the Les Exclusifs because i'm trying to make an apples to apples comparison. Comparing a mainstream fragrance marketed to men with $200 niche scents that aren't (are any Les Exclusifs marketed to men?) isn't an apples to apples comparison. What percentage of men even know what the Les Exclusifs are? As far as paying the bills is concerned, I'm sure when Antaeus & Egoiste were first released, they didn't have a problem paying the bills. You don't pay the bills by releasing "me too", you pay them by being better without charging an arm and a leg for it. I realize you can't make something like Antaeus today and expect it to be successful, but surely Chanel can do better than this, without charging me $200 for the privilege...
    But another point I was trying to make was that when Antaeus and Egoiste were released the masculine fragrance market were likely much smaller. Now when Chanel releases a scent, the name alone will only get them so far, they must compete with a far more crowded counter of fragrances. I don't think in the current market and economy, releasing something truly experimental or even avante garde would prove to be a wise business decision.
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    Default Re: Bleu de Chanel by Chanel - New fragrance

    My question is... Why are they releasing and aquatic now? Summer is coming to a close.

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    When I think of the more "avant garde" scents that have been released lately, Zihr Ikon and Mugler B-Men come to mind, and truthfully, they did not sell very well. It is a risky business to release scents without almost universal appeal, especially in the current economy.

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    Default Re: Bleu de Chanel by Chanel - New fragrance

    Quote Originally Posted by mtgprox05 View Post
    I don't think in the current market and economy, releasing something truly experimental or even avante garde would prove to be a wise business decision.
    In general I agree with this, though Dior Homme is pretty avante garde, (for a masculine) and that is doing pretty well. It's one thing to release something experimental or avante garde, it's quite another to come out with something that is appealing to the masses, yet interesting enough for the critics. That's where I'm finding fault with Chanel's recent mainstream masculines...

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    Quote Originally Posted by b0n3z View Post
    My question is... Why are they releasing and aquatic now? Summer is coming to a close.
    Because in fall and December much more perfumes are being sold. And they don't name it aquatic.

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    Sniffed it again today. . . sorry, just not too impressed. . . it might grow on me, but I'm not seeing it yet. . .

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    I'm no fragance guru or expert, and i can say that this new chanel is just an epic fail. No comparision with allure, egoiste, platinum, etc... it smelled cheap, weird, not elegant, not interesting.

    Not worth the price. It could get by as some Hugo Boss on a bad day frag.

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    Default Re: Bleu de Chanel by Chanel - New fragrance

    I got to test this today in the mall. Nothing really spectacular. Just another aquatic scent out there. Not really looking forward to getting a full bottle of this one.

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    Nordstrom's decanted a large sample for me yesterday and, so far, all I can say is B-O-R-I-N-G.
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    Default Re: Bleu de Chanel by Chanel - New fragrance

    Went back to Macy's and sprayed some on from the tester yesterday. It really isn't much different on the skin that it was on the card. I'm still indecisive on whether I really like it or not. I personally don't think it smells bad, though some on this thread do. It just isn't anything special. Nothing that would make me drop the money on a bottle. That said, I would probably buy a decant if I find someone selling them in the future.

    I posted earlier that it reminded me of the new DKNY Men. Don't get me wrong, they don't smell exactly the same, but my verdict would be that Bleu slightly more sophisticated version of DKNY Men. I have a decant of DKNY that I like (also not bottle worthy), and I slightly prefer Bleu.

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