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    Duplicate. Apologies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weylin View Post
    I like this kind of comparison thread. Keep it up!
    Your wish is granted. Within the next couple of hours I will be posting M7 v Bois de Portugal

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    This topic has been discussed to death and then some. No offense, but my only reaction to this thread is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCity1014 View Post
    This topic has been discussed to death and then some. No offense, but my only reaction to this thread is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
    In this format?

    With age of wearer and testers declared?

    Both colognes literally side by side?

    Please provide the links.

  5. #35

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    Are you joking? Sorry, but I have neither the time nor the desire to provide you with links. However, the whole GIT vs. CW debate has been over-analyzed to the point of absurdity.

    That being said, don't let my cynicism spoil your fun. By all means, feel free to carry on. I'll be over here in the corner, napping...
    Last edited by WindyCity1014; 26th May 2010 at 07:44 PM.
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    2. Lumière Noire pour Homme by Maison Francis Kurkdjian
    3. New Haarlem by Bond No. 9
    4. Chergui by Serge Lutens Les Salons du Palais Royal Shiseido
    5. Francois Charles by Rance 1795
    6. Puro Intense by Nejma
    7. Usiku by Jo Wood Organics
    8. New York by Parfums de Nicolai
    9. Dia For Men by Amouage
    10. Silver Mountain Water by Creed

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  6. #36

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    you're RIGHT!!
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    [Rant removed to reflect TalkingMuffin's edit - Because we're all friends here on BN!]
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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCity1014 View Post
    This topic has been discussed to death and then some. No offense, but my only reaction to this thread is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
    Has it? I think this is the first time someone went into the field and did a controlled test to compare the two. I think this is breaking new ground!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTheBeginner View Post
    if you consider 35 to be old then you're just a kiddie. Grow up and show some manners. Third part. You think alcohol will still be around after 3 hours? You definitely are a youngster then. A victim of the cr*p standard of science teaching these days.

    You're RIGHT!
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    Default Re: Green Irish Tweed V Cool Water - Real Life Head to Head challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by TalkingMuffin View Post
    Not that I care that much what some old ladies in your office think, ....
    I note this too, John, so you're not alone and you're not the problem. Nothing to worry about JohnTheBeginner.
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  11. #41

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    Quote Originally Posted by vulcan View Post
    Maybe its just my body chemistry, but Cool Water just smells like cheap aftershave on me.
    In my skin too.

    Grat idea for a original thread John!

  12. #42

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    I tried a newer bottle are macy's and cool water is more similar to GIT these days than it was years ago I think. I tested an older bottle and THAT was pure garbage.

    Not sure if they did a reformulation for the newer bottles or just the old bottle turned bad.

    Either way, there's this...hairspray note that oozes from cool water that I really don't like. Otherwise, I'd like it.

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    Default Re: Green Irish Tweed V Cool Water - Real Life Head to Head challenge

    Interesting finding, but not at all surprising. Contrary to popularly held beliefs, I don't find the two all that much alike. And GIT just doesn't work on my skin... Anyway, there are better fragrances out there than these two.
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    Default Re: Green Irish Tweed V Cool Water - Real Life Head to Head challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTheBeginner View Post

    I'm 50, I canvassesd a number of women at work over the course of a few days. I swapped around between wrists and asked each lady several times. All ladies were mature - late 30s to mid 50s.

    Both colognes had been on for at least 3 hours before I started asking.

    Guess what?

    Cool Water won. Unanimously.

    So there you have it folks.
    Absolutely no surprise there at all.

    The only woman likely to give a positive coment on GIT is one who is really expert in scents.

    I recollect posting one female officeworkers reaction to the GIT sample I had on my arm as stating that it smelled
    "really awful, just like a Doctor's surgery"
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    Just for the record, I like these threads overall. Though they won't exactly affect which of the two scents mentioned I wear, I find the "layperson's" view interesting, because I feel like we do tend to entrench ourselves in BNland a little.

    Also, I've never seen a blind comparison test involving multiple test subjects before.

    So, thanks for posting!
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    This is akin to how many things are perceived by hobbyists vs average joes. Take audio for example.....sit a newb in front of a pair of great speakers and some mass market ones. The newb will certainly mistake the mid-bass hump and shrill treble of the mass market speakers for solid bass and great clarity, leaving the well balanced, carefully crafted, neutral and "boring" speakers in the store. I'm sure you can see the parallels.

    That said, I'm kind of over GIT. I bought a bottle last year, but don't find myself reaching for it often at all. Coming soon to the marketplace? Maybe.....

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    I think when it comes to cologne it maters what the average, uninformed nose likes. When I put on cologne, everyone else smells it. I want it to smell good for them as well as for me.

    If women prefer Cool Water to GIT or can't tell the difference, that's the test I care about.

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    Default Re: Green Irish Tweed V Cool Water - Real Life Head to Head challenge

    Green Irish Tweed would always be my choice of the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vulcan View Post
    I think when it comes to cologne it maters what the average, uninformed nose likes. When I put on cologne, everyone else smells it. I want it to smell good for them as well as for me.

    If women prefer Cool Water to GIT or can't tell the difference, that's the test I care about.
    Thats the test most people care about. Cool Water will do exactly what GIT will do in that aspect and will last longer. To yourself that's an entirely different story. I personally find GIT so overrated to the point where people come across as fanboys!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFragranceReview View Post
    Thats the test most people care about. Cool Water will do exactly what GIT will do in that aspect and will last longer. To yourself that's an entirely different story. I personally find GIT so overrated to the point where people come across as fanboys!
    I've noticed a lot of Creed worship on this forum. I wonder if that would be different if it sold for $30 a bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vulcan View Post
    I've noticed a lot of Creed worship on this forum. I wonder if that would be different if it sold for $30 a bottle.
    It would drastically be different. People like to have prestige and exclusiveness. Creed is high end and not many people have it. Creed overall as niche isn't all tht great. The scents fade far too fast and don't last for an EDP or even an EDT! The entire natural aspect I could care two shits about, I want something that smells nice and lasts. It has to have both of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vulcan View Post
    Maybe its just my body chemistry, but Cool Water just smells like cheap aftershave on me.
    I would like to eat my words now. Having bought a bottle to actually test rather than spray it on my arm in the store, I have included Cool Water in my short list of all time favorites. Simple, clean, balanced, and masculine--everything that 99% of today's market lacks. I'm not surprised that you got a good reaction from it.

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    I am not sure if I am thinking right but with all this talk I am getting inclined towards buying a 'vintage' bottle of Cool water.

    Anyone has some idea how can we identify a cool water bottle from the yore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFragranceReview View Post
    It would drastically be different. People like to have prestige and exclusiveness. Creed is high end and not many people have it. Creed overall as niche isn't all tht great. The scents fade far too fast and don't last for an EDP or even an EDT! The entire natural aspect I could care two shits about, I want something that smells nice and lasts. It has to have both of those.
    Snobs like to have prestige. People who truly appreciate fragrances, don't change their nose because of the huge price tag. When I smell Creeds I smell top-notch quality, there's something in them that oozes luxury and style.

    I'm not saying people aren't influenced by 'exclusive' fragrances, some are, but if others see the magic in GIT and you don't that doesn't mean it's over-rated.
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    I think this is a perfectly legimimate discussion and one which is bound to recur with new voices which is all good...

    I agree that cool water has gone downhill (as have most frags in recent years) but also contest that GIT quality has also gone far downhill even in the last five years (and a fair bit before that too).

    As for the presitge issue - that is off the topic of this thread but I say that GIT is made from better ingredients by far. Its just that I prefer cool water.
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    Default Re: Green Irish Tweed V Cool Water - Real Life Head to Head challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by MrFragranceReview View Post
    It would drastically be different. People like to have prestige and exclusiveness. Creed is high end and not many people have it. Creed overall as niche isn't all tht great. The scents fade far too fast and don't last for an EDP or even an EDT! The entire natural aspect I could care two shits about, I want something that smells nice and lasts. It has to have both of those.


    Ease of access, pricing differences and biases apart, GIT is better than Cool Water, ingredient-wise. If Creed were as ersatz as the haters say they are, rational people wont buy them over the years as they have.

    I actually prefer the ambergris-house-note-amped dry-down of GIT. That to me is the main difference between the two. I have used several bottles of CW right from its issue date, and reviewing from long experience and not by purpose-driven testing, i must say that GIT trounces CW in the longevity area as well. Easily a 12+ hours frag.

    The OP's canvassing test is actually quite interesting, varied and not compromised by his own opinion. Nice one, JohnTheBeginner
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    Default Re: Green Irish Tweed V Cool Water - Real Life Head to Head challenge

    great thread!

    i'll have to try this comparison myself to see what kind of results it yields.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTheBeginner View Post
    Right.

    Following my Bois de Portugal vs Antaeus Challenge
    Tarheel-Golfer sggested 'doing' GIT vs Cool Water.

    So I did.

    Similar to before - but to remind you - I've decided to start wearing two different frags at the same time once in a while, then canvassing for opinions...

    I'm 50, I canvassesd a number of women at work over the course of a few days. I swapped around between wrists and asked each lady several times. All ladies were mature - late 30s to mid 50s.

    Both colognes had been on for at least 3 hours before I started asking.

    Guess what?

    Cool Water won. Unanimously.

    So there you have it folks.

    This weeks challenge - Bois de Portugal vs M7. Place your bets now!!!
    This thread made my day!! It's a $225 bottle of Cool Water. I've been telling people this for years. So funny!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogsinatub View Post
    This thread made my day!! It's a $225 bottle of Cool Water. I've been telling people this for years. So funny!!!
    No, if that were true they would have tied. GIT is a $225 sub-par version of Cool Water.

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    You GREEN IRISH TWEED haters are really becoming silly to the point of annoyance because of your one sided views, because either 1) you don't want/can't spend money on a superior product, so you get all bitter 2) You haven't tested them yourself, or own both for a less biased analysis 3) who knows, I don't care.

    I own both, I like both. I'm relatively well off. I don't care how much fragrances cost, price isn't playing a factor.

    But I'm telling you, straight up. GIT smells better to ME, because I love the natural violet notes in the drydown. It gets more powerful and intoxicating as it dries down, not weaker.

    Cool water can't do that. It's a synthetic smell good, nothing more. And it's longevity sucks. It doesn't develop, it doesn't get stronger. But it smells nice, clean. Synthetic clean, like a detergent. Women like clean, synthetic smelling men, so it's no surprise this may win.
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