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    Angry Hair loss remedies?

    The time to face my worst fears has sadly arrived. A bald patch is beginning to form at the top of my head and I don't like it. Ofcourse as of now I am powerless & can't do anything but see it growing.
    However I'd love to get in control and do something about it.

    So fellow basenoters, empower me. Is there anything....anything out there that you've used for a similar problem and see it work? My thrust is more on hair regrowth treatments and less on hair loss prevention as that balding area needs some new hair to cover the scalp.

    Thanks guys.

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    Consumer Reports recently had something to say about both hair growth products and skin creams:

    http://www.stylelist.com/2010/04/06/...rinkle-serums/
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    You should approach it from 2 angles because it's far easier to prevent further hair loss than it is to regrow new hair. Once hair loss has started, it's not as though it's going to cease unless you take steps to stop it.

    I recently noticed my hair starting to thin a bit, which was completely unacceptable. No bald spots, but I can see some thinness when my hair is wet. I've been really studying the subject. Lots and lots of charlatans trying to hawk expensive products, so there's a lot of plodding through bullshit before one finds the gems. However, discuss all of this with your doctor. I haven't experienced any side effects but YMMV.

    It's all about impeding the conversion of Testosterone to DHT, which is the culprit for Male Pattern Baldness. This what I do -

    Reducing/Preventing further hair loss:

    *Didn't want to do Propecia because of the possible sexual side effects. However, it is the medically proven method of inhibiting DHT. Talk to your doctor about it.

    All of these herbs are easy to find at the health food store. I take one of each of these pills every day. They're also used for treating prostate enlargement in older men.

    Saw Palmetto - This is the DHT inhibitor which has been most thoroughly tested for MPB.

    Beta Sitosterol - Another powerful DHT inhibitor

    Pygeum Extract - Same

    Stinging Nettle - Same


    Encouraging New Hair Growth/Regrowth:

    Nizoral Shampoo (active ingredient Ketoconazole 1% or 2%). I use this shampoo every other day. If you can find Nizoral creme, that's supposed to be even better. http://www.epharmacy.com.au/product....ment+Cream+30g

    http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/bo...wer&category=0

    Then of course there's Minoxidil (Rogaine) which is supposed to be good for regrowing hair at the crown of the head. However, Consumer Reports found it to be mainly ineffective. YMMV.

    Finally, hair loss is a slow process and turning it around is an equally slow process. Don't expect noticeable regrowth for several months.
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    Cut your hair really short (so, no "combovers" of any kind) and stop worrying about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpkunst View Post
    Cut your hair really short (so, no "combovers" of any kind) and stop worrying about it.
    +1

    There’s Propecia which no sane being should even consider. And there’s surgery which is expensive and hurts. Most other things are voodoo.

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    I found that egg yolks mixed with olive oil and applied on the scalp help stop hair loss. I don't know how effective this is for men but it nourishes your hair and scalp and I don't think it could hurt. If you try it, make sure you wash it off very well or your hair will look and smell weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkdreams View Post
    I found that egg yolks mixed with olive oil and applied on the scalp help stop hair loss. I don't know how effective this is for men but it nourishes your hair and scalp and I don't think it could hurt. If you try it, make sure you wash it off very well or your hair will look and smell weird.
    Interesting. And you can use the leftovers to start a Caesar salad, too.

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    Thanks everyone for chiming in.


    Quote Originally Posted by jpkunst View Post
    Cut your hair really short (so, no "combovers" of any kind) and stop worrying about it.
    Yeah, that's what I have been doing for the past 1 year or so but it's hard to keep short hair during winters. The Melbourne wind freezes the skull.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lorag View Post
    +1

    There’s Propecia which no sane being should even consider. And there’s surgery which is expensive and hurts. Most other things are voodoo.
    Thanks to the link posted by Kbe and also the detailed response of Adonis, I got to know about Propecia. However like you said due to its devastating side effects, I don't even want to think about it. Surgery is out of question as of now, however if I win a lotto, it'd be a different story.

    Quote Originally Posted by darkdreams View Post
    I found that egg yolks mixed with olive oil and applied on the scalp help stop hair loss. I don't know how effective this is for men but it nourishes your hair and scalp and I don't think it could hurt. If you try it, make sure you wash it off very well or your hair will look and smell weird.
    I've heard about it from my mum. However I think I am past the stage where this might help and I suspect it needs to be treated medically now. Thanks for the suggestion though.

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    If rich celebrities can't do a darn thing about balding, I'm not sure if we can do any better. Embrace the inevitable. Shave your head completely bald, or get a Justin Timberlake crew cut and see where you can go with the look. Nothing, absolutely nothing, could be worse than the 'comb-over'.

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    provilus but you gotta give it time.

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    I would say clipper / crew cut it , looks pretty sexy imo

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    Unfortunately I'm fairly knowledgable on this subject.

    First off, don't bother with any "alternative" remidies such as suppliments or that egg yolk suggestion, you're just wasting your time and...... eggs.

    Rogaine is effective to a certain degree, it won't grow all your hair back, but it will at least help maintain what you already have and even grow a little more back. Try Rogaine foam, it's much easier to use than the greasy topical solution plus it smells nice and adds a bit of hold to your hair.

    Also switch to Nizoral Shampoo, I use this daily. Don't know how well it works as I've never tried it alone without other remidies.

    Finally, try giving Propecia / Proscar a try, if you notice any side effects you can simply back off on the dosage or stop it all together. People seem to thing that one pill of this destroys your sex life, in my experience I have not found this to be true. I have been on it for about 10 years and only last year noticed very minimal side effects. I stopped it for a few months and relied on Rogaine and Nizoral with great success, but I have too much time and money invested in my hair so I went back on it.

    The active ingredient in Propecia / Proscar is finasteride (Fin). Research has shown that Fin is effective as a hairloss treatment at as little as a .20 mg daily dose. Propecia is 1 mg and Proscar is 5 mg, but when split into four pieces makes a 1.25 mg dose. I use split Proscar 1.25 mg doses EVERY OTHER DAY instead of everyday. From what I can tell I no longer have the slight side effects of when I took it every day and my doctor even confirmed with a blood test that my hormone levels are normal. If things still bother me I suspect I can try 1.25 mg every other two days but for right now I'm very happy with the results.

    Good luck with your treatment!

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    @ Jay D

    Thanks mate for your detailed response.

    Honestly speaking at this moment, I don't have the balls to actually go ahead and risk taking Propecia and/or Proscar.

    Just this morning I went ahead and bought

    Nizoral 2% shampoo,
    Nizoral 2% Anti-fungal cream and
    Herbal extract 60:40 mixture of Saw Palmetto & Stinging Nettle.

    I might get myself some Rogaine too as apparently it does not have any known damaging side effects.

    This is what I am going to start using to target the hair loss. Let's see how it goes during the next few months. Hopefully there will be some progress. If there isn't (god forbid) then Propecia/Proscar is always there.

    Once again, thanks everyone for your valuable advice/suggestions.

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    What about Capsaicin? It's found in chili and I've read it's good against balding - instead of battling DHT it's promoting a hormone responsible for hair growth. However, this is not my area of expertise - Jay D, you want to weigh in on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Point Blank View Post
    What about Capsaicin? It's found in chili and I've read it's good against balding - instead of battling DHT it's promoting a hormone responsible for hair growth. However, this is not my area of expertise - Jay D, you want to weigh in on this?
    I've never heard of it, so that itself means it doesnt work.

    But seriously, I did a little research on this stuff and didn't find many sources that confirmed how effective it is. In another forum where I sometimes visit some of the members actually tried to incorporate it within their routine but eventually gave up as it did not improve their hair and was very unpleasant to work with. Apparently besides being an ingredient in spicey foods it is also used in pepper sprays and would irritate the skin and eyes when being applied to the scalp. So in my opinion I wouldn't even bother with this stuff. Propecia/Proscar is your best bet against at least stopping hair loss and possibly gaining some of it back followed by Rogain and then Nizoral shampoo.

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    If you didn't worry about it, that would be your best option.
    But apparently you are not that kind of a person and I guess you wouldn't be comfortable with shaving/hat/bald+longhair etc. compromises.

    Plugs+hair care

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    Random note about rogaine: it seems rogaine is fairly toxic to cats. I noticed this while looking for side effects since I recently started using the product myself.

    Oh yea, it is also probably worth mentioning that some stores (example: Kroger) have inexpensive store-brand rogaine at like half the price. The three month supply i recently started on cost me about $20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
    If rich celebrities can't do a darn thing about balding, I'm not sure if we can do any better. Embrace the inevitable. Shave your head completely bald, or get a Justin Timberlake crew cut and see where you can go with the look. Nothing, absolutely nothing, could be worse than the 'comb-over'.
    Diamond, you are spot-on. One of the most attractive things in a man is his acceptance of himself, baldness and all. The worst thing and the most laughable are the toupee and comb-over.

    My perfume poster boy was shown in a portrait when he was forty, dashingly and timelessly handsome with that distinctive beard. It showed his breath-taking profile--and his receding hairline. That is true confidence. Nothing would be more laughable than an aging dandy insecure about baldness.

    A lot has to do with aging and heredity. It's the genes and their regulation by testosterone. Oddly, the more testosterone, the more this gene is activated. Eunuchs do not often go bald.

    Oddly, my cousin had a male Pomeranian dog who was going bald. His lush red fur was coming out in patches. When he was neutered, his hair grew back!

    I agree, again, with Diamond. Embrace it--it's a part of your masculinity.

    (Then again, male baldness is different from endocrine disorders. Low thyroid hormones can also cause hair loss and thinning.)
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    Rogaine could work, but be aware that its origins were as a blood pressure medication. I did try it and it lowered my BP to the point I was dizzy in the morning.

    For what it's worth, my doctor advised me that it will indeed work for many men. BUT, you need to keep using it FOREVER and if you stop, you lose the hair growth you obtained and the surrounding hair can be compromised as well.

    I say, just suck it up gupts.
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    Keratase Aminexil - this is good stuff. When I went through a traumatic time in my life ( don't ask which one ! ) , I suffered from a great deal of hair loss and THIS stuff is da bomb. ( It's hard for me to even think about it now . )

    There is a daily scalp lotion you can use too. It really is the best.

    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/370...o-Profumo-Onda
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    Since there is no proven "remedy" the best course of action is to prevent further hair loss and to stimulate & keep the scalp healthy. The best natural way to do this is with an ingredient that is used extensively in fragrance - Bergamot.
    I use bergamot shampoo along with bergamot hair tonic and have noticed an improvement over time.

    http://www.thaicraft.com/1-bergamot-...air-loss-.html

    http://www.thaicraft.com/1-bergamot-...-herbs-ex.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by StylinLA View Post
    Rogaine could work, but be aware that its origins were as a blood pressure medication. I did try it and it lowered my BP to the point I was dizzy in the morning.

    For what it's worth, my doctor advised me that it will indeed work for many men. BUT, you need to keep using it FOREVER and if you stop, you lose the hair growth you obtained and the surrounding hair can be compromised as well.

    I say, just suck it up gupts.
    I concur with Stylin on this. Anything that can have serious side effects that must be used forever can't be all that good for you. Go the natural route if you can. Otherwise, embrace the fact that this is you--baldness and all. Confidence is the sexiest thing a man cam possess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primrose View Post

    Oddly, my cousin had a male Pomeranian dog who was going bald. His lush red fur was coming out in patches. When he was neutered, his hair grew back!

    None of the local veterinarians will talk to me concerning my request.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbe View Post
    None of the local veterinarians will talk to me concerning my request.
    It is one of the few medically proven methods of reducing the levels of testosterone in the bloodstream.

    I heard a rumoour that bodybuilding can exacerbate baldness as it raises testosterone levels (or is this just rubbish).

    Sorry for your (hair) loss though

    Ho - hum

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    Dihydrotestosterone appears to be linked to baldness rather than testosterone in itself. Bodybuilding might actually save some hairs.

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    also avoid shampoo with sodium laureth sulfate.

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    Aside from getting enough of the following:
    protein
    vitamin B5 (pantothenic acid)
    biotin
    l-cysteine amino acid
    etc.


    ...vitamins and protein aside, current research is pointing in the direction of internal and/or topical DHT-inhibition, as well as sebum reduction, and/or sebum consistency alteration.

    Testosterone is not the enemy, it's derivative dihydrotestosterone is.

    DHT puts more follicles from the anagen and telegen phase into catagen phase, as well as and/or because of, increasing the production of sebum, and thickening the sebum's consistency. If you are serious about learning this stuff google the definitions and return here.

    DHT is necessary for male health, but excess dht, or rather, excess conversion of Testosterone to DHT. Internal aromatase blockers that prevent DHT conversion from occuring work very well...however, some of the stronger internal dht-inhibitors have negative sexual side effects. And most inhibit the prostate type of aromatase conversion as well as the follicle type aromatase conversion.

    Safe aromatase blockers for the prostate include things like Saw Palmetto extracts taken internally, but I think it's not as useful for follicle type aromatase->DHT inhibition, for example.

    The safest topical dht-inhibitors for the specific aromatase conversion in the follicle are menthol and L-Limonene. D-Limonene is the one that smells like Lemons/orange peel/etc. L-Limonene smells piney/green/turpentiney, and we all know menthol smells cold and minty.

    Some natural oils which contain the highest levels of dht-inhibiting menthol and l-limonene:
    Japanese Peppermint (mentha Spicata)
    Rosemary (officinalis)
    Dalmatian Sage

    As for the internal anti-aromatase supplements which seem safe:
    Indole-3-carbinol extracts
    (from cruciferous vegtables like Broccoli, asparagus, red cabbage)
    D.I.M. (di-indol-methane) from the same cruciferous types.


    Other things which seemingly keep hair in the telogen and anagen phases:
    Proanthocyanadin Oligomers
    (from pine bark extracts, red grapes, apple skins, red peanut skins, etc)

    There is a ton more but I'mm go to sleep now.

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    Wow Dullah, great info. I still take Saw Palmetto, Beta Sitosterol, Stinging Nettle, and Pygeum on a daily basis. Happy to take other stuff if it's beneficial.

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    I mix the three oils into a base of Jojoba.

    On Jojoba, 2 things:

    1. It's the closest in lipid profile to healthy(thin) human sebum of any plant oil.
    2. It naturally decreases the scalps own sebum production, which is especially good for those who have DHT-induced, unhealthy(thick waxy) sebum clogging follicles and putting hairs into catagen phase early.

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