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    Wink The rise and fall of Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille

    One evening when I first tested TV from a tiny vial that I had bought, I got so captivated that I couldn't sleep that night because I wanted to buy the bottle immediately. I promptly managed to buy a sizeable quantity (around 90ml) from a seller on ebay who decanted it from his 250ml flacon.

    I think it's well been over a year, maybe a year and a half since I've had this. During this time I've always loved it and have never missed an opportunity to mention it on the board how great it is. I did read about some people thinking that it smells like a cheap vanilla candle and I used to think, what are these people saying...are they kidding me?

    Today I am wearing TV and I kid you not, but I think they are so right. TV is reminding me of nothing else but a $5 vanilla candle that sell at cheap stores. Honestly the vanilla is so reminiscent of the candle vanilla that it's just shocking how did I manage to enjoy this for so long without making this cheap association.

    Well now I can't shake it. TV is a very linear scent. It is quite potent. It is sickeningly sweet.
    I used to talk about some fine tobacco mixed with vanilla that made TV weave its magic but my dream is over now.

    I wore this today after months as I had a similar feel from it the last time I wore it but today I've just nailed it into a coffin. I had a housemate who used to wear it and it would smell so ridiculously good on him but everytime I would wear it, I'd feel sick and no I was not overapplying. You cannot overapply this. You'd die of asphyxiation because all you will then smell is cloying and sweet vanilla that will take over the air around you.

    I am still hoping someday my mind will change again. TV will not be sold and will be nurtured until I can tame it again.

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    You know, it happens. I haven't had quite the same experience, but I definitely go off things that I once loved to the point of wanting to wear them almost every day. Sometimes it's weather related. Sometimes I'm convinced it has something to do with a personal biological change, though I'm not sure why I say that. As you said, don't sell it... just nurture it (and appreciate the good times you had) and, with any luck, some day it'll feel exactly right again.

    And you know you made me want to go get my decant down off the shelf. I think I'll have just one spritz before bed...

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    I've had issues with sensitivity, so I think you are making the right call by putting it aside for a while. I've found that you need to stay away for at least 2 weeks, and also don't wear anything that is similar in the meantime.

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    Default Re: The rise and fall of Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille

    Saw your comment in today's SotD thread and gasped ;0)

    I think i know what you mean. Much as i love TV (and always will) it is one of those frags i need to be in the mood for. It is potent and linear. Requires olfactory stamina to "cope" with, and sometimes i just want "easygoing".

    I hope it comes back to you though.
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    It really is a weird one - I've sampled it (on my skin) several times when visiting Tom Ford stockists. The first time I sampled it I absolutely loved it and tried to think of a way of justifying a purchase! I tested it again a few months later and couldn't wait to wash it off - the aroma was so sickly and cloying. Maybe it's a weather / temperature thing or just a matter of perception - who knows....!

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    I fell in love Tobacco Vanille when it came out in 2007 and still love it. One of the best vanillas, one of the best orientals
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    I have a full bottle of this and I am lucky that I do not get the vanilla candle association. For me it smells like the loose vanilla tobacco that you put into a pipe that I have smelled a good few times when I have been to my local tobbaconist. Heavenly.
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    I agree it is completely linear but I love the density and richness of it

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    Default Re: The rise and fall of Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille

    I like it but it can get a little crude at times due to loud sillage paired with a totally linear development.

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    Personally, I cannot wear it. Reasons are that I don't like vanilla in general. In moderation is ok. LDDM is probably the only I enjoy. One should not have to work so hard to wear a fragrance. If you can't throw it on and it just feel right, then it just isn't meant to be. At least that is how I perceive things. If I have to take a break from, wear nothing similar, constantly question it's integrity, it sweetness, etc etc. I will just eventually have to disregard it and chalk it up as a fragrance that I can't be friends with lol.
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    I feel you gupts.

    I still have a very small decant of it but I have never owned a full bottle. Probably because...

    At it's best: TV can be (in blisteringly cold weather) a warm, cuddly, inner-warmth gourmand that smells sexy sweet and very masculine. I have this mental scent association of me catching a whiff of it, from the inside of my jacket, when I was in LA visiting my parents in very cold weather. It was the epitome of comfort to me, on that day.

    At it's worst: TV can make me a bit sick to my stomach. I remember when TV was first released, with all of the 12 original Tom Ford Private Blends, it was one of the few that EVERY blogger liked and had good things to say something about. My buddy Kevin Guyer (formerly Ruggles) sampled it and I remember him saying it reminded him of 'eating pipe tobacco'. I couldn't relate to this myself, but then one day in summer time I applied TV and I got a bit nauseated. It did feel like I was eating tobacco...it kind of reminded me of someone smoking a pipe while I'm trying to eat a pastry at the same time. Not a good combination. So, I do my best NOT to go near my decant bottle any time in Summer and I only wear TV in very cold weather.

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    gupts, I tried Tv when I was hot on the trail for the Holy Grail of tobacco/vanilla scents. I was very disappointed. Nice, yes, but not so much so that I would fork out the cash to buy. I ended up buying a decant of Back to Black.
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    Default Re: The rise and fall of Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille

    I never got past my 2.5 ml sampler... Its linearity drives me to tears. Works best in crisp cold dry weather imo.
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    Default Re: The rise and fall of Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille

    I had a similar problem with my Kilian Black to Black. At first, i loved the smell, found it unique. Today, I don`t stand it. There is something flowery and sharp on it that goes really bad on my skin.
    Tobacco Vanille is one of those scents that i enjoy but I only want to wear a few times in the year. On me is very complex, a strong spicy tobbaco, honey and vanilla. Another honey fragrance that i enjoy but i cannot wear frequently is Un Crime Exotique from Parfumerie Generale.

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    How could you say that about my beloved B2B !!!

    I think that TV works best with a light application , saying that I do know someone that got through 50mls in 3 weeks !!!!!

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    I can totally relate. This was one of the first niche scents that I fell in love with. But between the fact that its so potent that I only need one squirt, its remarkable longevity and the fact that I live in a swamp (sorry but SoFL feel like a swamp in summer). I realized Id never go through even a 1/4 of it so I just sold my bottle. I have still have several of the 4ml minis and even those will last me for ever.

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    I have experienced similar fatigue. Mine, though, was due to switching from highly synthetic fragrances (i.e. most) to ones with more natural ingrdients (i.e. Creed). At first I hated the natural ones. Now I don't like some synthetics I used to enjoy.

    I am considering purchasing TV since I've really enjoyed my sample. The linearity is a bit boring and I've been trying to layer/blend with other stuff without any success. Sometimes simple is best. Your experience will be factored into my decision.

    Thanks

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    Luckily for me it didn't seem so linear on my skin! It opened with vanilla but as it progressed all I really got was spice, dried fruit, and that sweet sap note.
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    Wow, that's a whole lot of TV to go through so quickly! Personally, I love it and can't imagine ever growing tired of it. I must say I only wear it during the cold months though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pour_Monsieur View Post
    How could you say that about my beloved B2B !!!

    I think that TV works best with a light application , saying that I do know someone that got through 50mls in 3 weeks !!!!!

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    I didn't like it when I first tried it. I bought a flacon for a split and got an ounce for really cheap so it didn't bother me. I thought I could grow to like it or at least easily swap/sale it. It isn't bad but I have a hard time getting into it because it's a difficult fragrance to pull off wearing. I've said this before, but it has a really old world smell to it. Like a guy in a tweed suit would wear it.

    You pretty much have to look & dress like Tom Ford to pull of wearing it. It has a distinguished gentlemen vibe about it.
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    It happened to me as well, loved A*MEN, hated A*MEN, loving A*MEN again. The thing is that your nose needs a break once in a while. I'm sure that if you don't sniff TV for 1 month, you'll find it again delightful.
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    gupts what an interesting thread and an even more interestnig title. I wonder if this is true for most TF scents. I wonder if this should be titled The Rise and Fall of the Private Blends or the [Frangrant] House of TF?

    I understand what you're saying and I think it's got nothing to do with fatigue. It's just that you saw (smelled) a tiny little corner that's usually hidden and you honed in on it. Now you can't get rid of it. The power of association is very strong in this case. I've done that myself before. Also, I've noticed that with anything that has a tobacco note, for me they are very dependent on the mood and weather.

    I only smelled TV once and I always meant to go back to test it more extensively. I'm surprised there's so much mention of the vanilla but not so much of the tobacco note? Wasn't this supposed to be a more tobacco laden, masculine version of Guerlain SDV (why I wanted to test and like it so much)?

    I've tested many of the Private Blend titles, as well as the regular line, extensively. Sadly, nothing impressed me enough to go ahead and make a purchase. There's a dark, annoying feeling that they give me (a house note?). I still have my hopes for TV but reading these posts makes me question that.

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    If I were to be exposed to TV during one of my low blood sugar moments, I'd surely vomit and then pass out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gupts View Post
    I did read about some people thinking that it smells like a cheap vanilla candle and I used to think, what are these people saying...are they kidding me?
    Heh. I think I started the description of the vanilla candle at Basenotes last year.

    I reapplied TV in the rest room while having a drink with my friends. When I came back, one friend suddenly said: 'Wow, is there a vanilla candle here?' and started sniffing the (scentless ) candle which was standing on top of our table. It turned out that he had mistaken TV for a vanilla candle.

    But then again, how can a non-fragrance lover, when least expected, be 'mistaken'? If he really associated the scent with a vanilla candle, then that is his truth. I'd have to say I'd agree with him. For me personally, it's a closer association than vanilla pipe tobacco.

    As for TV: I think it's a great scent, but not as magnifiscent (pun inteded) as many Basenoters believe. I'd share Tobacco Vanille with the following scents: Hermès Ambre Narguilé, L'Artisan Tea for Two and L'Occitane Ambre. They all have the same sweet, oriental, amber base, but they differ in the direction building on top of that base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pour_Monsieur View Post
    How could you say that about my beloved B2B !!!

    I think that TV works best with a light application , saying that I do know someone that got through 50mls in 3 weeks !!!!!
    Sounds like he was burning the advent candles
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    I enjoy TV (and don't mind it's linearity). That having been said, I wouldn't touch it in the muggy summertime. I've got a couple of sample vials that I'll definitely revisit in the Wisconsin winter...

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    Any favorite fragrance can eventually become one you dislike. I've had it happen several times. Sometimes you regain the attraction, and sometimes you may not.

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    I finally had the chance to do a test off a sample today. I can still smell it on my arm about 10 hours later, even after trying to wash it off my arm. The tobacco vibe seems to go away on the drydown.
    I agree with Bizzy on Youtube. I get that marshmellow smore-like vibe.

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    I read an interview with Tom Ford about a year or so ago, and the interviewer said something like, "He walked in smelling like vanilla baked goods." The tone was not complimentary. At that moment I decided, "Tobacco Vanille - if he can't pull it off, I probably can't either." Even though I like the idea of a robust and creamy tobacco and vanilla accord.

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    It is a pretty delightful and potent scent. A sample wearing put a big smile on my face. But I can totally see where it would be a good one to wear occasionally. I wear Odori Tabacco on occasion and while similar, the vanilla is a bit more subdued.

    I've only tried a handful, but I think a lot of the TFs are pretty linear in that way. Right now, Tuscan Leather is high in my rotation and it has that same kind of linear development. But I don't think the leather will get as annoying to me as the vanilla seems to have with OP.

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