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    this is NOT a leather scent....it's just an amber scent...and it's crap! Shame on you C***d....again.
    15 January 2009


    Does anyone else see REL in this light? Amber? Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neal View Post
    everso
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    this is NOT a leather scent....it's just an amber scent...and it's crap! Shame on you C***d....again.
    15 January 2009


    Does anyone else see REL in this light? Amber? Just curious.
    No.

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    I didn't get much leather out of Royal English Leather - mostly light, perfumey, slightly petrolium-like amber. I guess some leather products are (were?) scented this way... If a scent can be kitsch, this is it imo. Like a fragrance version of a male corset.

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    It really depends on what you expect leather accords to smell like. Take Ambre Russe. Others smell amber, I smell leather. *shrug*
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    rel is a nice fragrance not my favorite creed but it is nice. i smell a sweet polished clean Englishman's leather. like a polished leather couch. tuscan leather by tom ford is a dirty leather which is totally different.

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    Try Bel Ami. Fantastic stuff!

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    No.
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    No as well.
    Is the juice worth the squeeze?

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    I get a nice rich leather note. But there is also a kind of sweet-ish vibe that I've always thought was the ambergris.

    Someone looking for pure leather scent may be put off by that.
    Last edited by StylinLA; 18th July 2010 at 08:39 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StylinLA View Post
    I get a nice rich leather note. But there is also a kind of sweet-ish vibe that I've always thought was the ambergris.

    Someone looking for pure leather scent may be put off by that.
    probably the mandarin orange note.

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    REL smell's like ladies hand cream to me and is extremely pungent and has no place in this century. I read somewhere that it was created for Royalty about 150 years ago. The King/Prince wanted a fragrance to drown out the smell of the common peasants who did not take a bath in those days and to drown out the smell of the stables when he went hunting. Well his Royal highness succeeded in his wish with REL.lol

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    Love the stuff. Love that it smells like what it smells like. Don't care if the title is a true or a false ingredient list.
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    You can do a search on Basenotes for this - we have discussed this before.

    REL uses a high dose of styrax (Liquidambar Styraciflua) for a 'leather' note. Styrax is responsible for that floral-animalic note in REL.

    Fragrances such as Knize Ten, Chanel Cuir de Russie, Tabac Blond and many others utilize the iso-butyl-quinoline aromachemical to impart that (imo, harsh) 'leather note'. I find in particular Knize Ten's use of iso-butyl very aggressive and harsh.

    The other material used to impart a leather note is silver birch/birch tar. Creeds Cuir de Russie makes heavy use of great quality silver birch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DustB View Post
    Love the stuff. Love that it smells like what it smells like. Don't care if the title is a true or a false ingredient list.
    I second that. OP should note that the reviewer he quotes is Everso. If you examine his 91 reviews, they're about 70 percent negative. He has a love of leather scents and doesn't find REL to his liking.

    REL is a bit of an acquired taste for sure. But for those of us who like it, none of the stories surrounding the scent really matter. It's a unique, lush, rich leather for men.
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    Everso, God rest his driven soul, was a Knize in shining armour crusading against believers in the false Creed. He didn't mince words and didn't mind facts much either, as fundamentalists go.
    Let's keep in mind that leather, in perfumery, is not a palpable object, but rather a flexible concept and can go anywhere from lush soft and sweet (Lutens Daim Blond) to Texas birchtar massacre (Tauer Lonestar memories). I happen to love both the aristocratically lush REL with its natural balsamic "Indian" vibe (I smell castoreum in there beside the styrax) - the cream-leather interior of the Maharaja's Rolls Royce and the modernist gasoline-tar plus oriental amber complexity of Knize Ten: a Bugatti Brescia Type 23 roaring through a Harem scene by Ingrès.
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    I love Royal English Leather for its sweet leather and cannot stand Knize because it is gasoline! Each to their own .
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    REL is within the spectrum of leather scents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neal View Post
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    this is NOT a leather scent....it's just an amber scent...and it's crap! Shame on you C***d....again.
    15 January 2009


    Does anyone else see REL in this light? Amber? Just curious.
    i smell a little leather. mostly sickly-sweet rootbeer and cotton-candy. cloying and completely artificial smelling.

    can't stand this one. wouldn't wear it on a dare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StylinLA View Post
    I get a nice rich leather note.
    Me too.

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    Yes, I do think it is leathery - but not in a tangible way that makes me envision leather. Tuscan Leather is the only leather scent that has that effect on me. REL reminds me more of leather curing plant...full of leather chemicals Not a fan.

    Come to think of it, very few leather scents remind of anything that has to do with leather. It just recognize the note as "that which has been defined as leather by the perfumery powers that be."
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    Personally speaking, I think that this fragrance genre is the most difficult and most challenging.

    There are many interpretation of 'leather' and I can honestly say, I have smelt many in this category - and many I did not like :

    Tuscan Leather for example to me smelt very synthetic, Bel Ami was very strong and old worldly, Chanel Cuir De Russie was very nice but I found it very feminine most likely due to the florals - but Royal English Leather was exactly the interpretation I had in mind that fits my style.

    It does not smell dated to me, the tangerine opening is a fantastic introduction to a smooth, buttery/waxy leather that remains throughout the remainder of the scent.

    Class all the way, and highly masculine.

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    Agreeing about the waxy note and thus, by extension, the possibility of a waxy and/or rich honeyed leather on this one, although filtered by hints of tangerine/other citrus and possibly hints of fresh, earthy lavender as well.

    By personally thinking more and more about, increasingly dwelling on the nuances this fragrance, starting to gradually understand even better why this one is a favorite Creed and a personal favorite in general - the more it is given time and attention, the more challenging and interesting it can become.
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    Years ago when I first started reading the posts on BN about REL in 2006 a lot of people stated that the scent of REL reminded them of the cakes that they put in men's urinals to deodorize them. I don't know if any guys have been around long enough to remember those discussions but I sure do. When I first smelled REL I thought to myself. Damn those guys were right. That's exactly what the scent of REL reminds me of. I tried to like REL but just couldn't get over that association with urinal cake.
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    To me REL is absolutely a leather scent! Oldschool polished (hence the orange notes) leather furniture. Bel Ami, Knize Ten and Cuir Ottoman are distant relatives.

    There are several other leather styles, both in the real world and in perfumery.

    Let's see, there's:

    - Spanish leather used for shoes, handbags and other accessories (Cuir Mauresque, Peau d'Espagne, some intermediate formulations of Or Black)

    - Suede, which is mainly Safraeline and/or Suederal

    - modern car seat and expensive biker jacket leather (Pures Distance M, Tuscan Leather)

    - Arabian leather goods, rugged jacket and SM-fashion leather (Aoud Cuir d'Arabie), which is very dark and smoky due to spicy aspects and heavy doses of birchtar / cade

    - Russian leather (made famous by Cuir de Russie, Russisch Leder, Bandit and many other classics), also not shy of birch tar

    - powdery soft high fashion leather (Dior Homme etc), which has a lot ot iris

    - as well as many fantasy blends of different styles
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    Default Re: Royal English Leather Review

    Quote Originally Posted by DOCPSYCHO View Post
    Years ago when I first started reading the posts on BN about REL in 2006 a lot of people stated that the scent of REL reminded them of the cakes that they put in men's urinals to deodorize them. I don't know if any guys have been around long enough to remember those discussions but I sure do. When I first smelled REL I thought to myself. Damn those guys were right. That's exactly what the scent of REL reminds me of. I tried to like REL but just couldn't get over that association with urinal cake.
    Sadly it sounds like you have sampled a turned/spoiled batch of REL. I too bought a sample initially that smelled like urinal cakes. But when I found a new/unsprayed 2007 bottle in Florence last year, I bought it and discovered why this is a highly regarded leather.

    If I'm wrong, please send me all the unwanted urinal cakes in your area, as they sound amazing.
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