They have this entire post on the boutique blog:
When I was browsing the Creed Boutique (USA) website (http://www.creedboutique.com), I noted that the term Millesime is no longer explained and the categorization of fragrances as Millesime or Eau de Toilette is no longer presented.
If one uses the search function for the word 'toilette' (http://www.creedboutique.com/search....query=toilette), the following fragrances are displayed:
Bois de Cedrat
Royal English Leather
(Note: this search seems to only work intermittently for me).
If one searches for Millesime (http://www.creedboutique.com/search....uery=Millesime), the following seven fragrances are displayed:
Zeste Mandarine Pamplemousse
Some of these only show up because of comparitives.
At Creed UK, each fragrance is categorized as either Eaux de Toilette or Millesime. For the list of Millesime's credits (http://www.creedfragrances.co.uk/products/millesime), there are 26 listings. But I am unable to locate any definition of the term 'millesime' any more.
My conclusion is that Creed is no longer emphasizing the term millesime. Perhaps they want to walk away from it, except as a naming convention.
Last edited by scentsitivity; 6th August 2010 at 01:22 AM.
They have this entire post on the boutique blog:
Toilette may indicate a lower oil to alcohol ratio. Maybe the Millesimes have more. This needs further investigation.
My intuition says its marketing or legal.
I've never understood their use of the term, and their blog post doesn't really clarify it for me, either. According to Google Translate, "millesime" is French for "vintage".
High camp, comic relief from the Creed blog: "Still, even CREED must use a synthetic ingredient or two. Why?........."
Who writes this awful copy anyhow?
What is interesting to me is that very few of the fragrances are currently identified as EdT (and none as EdP, as far as I can tell) at the Creed Boutique USA website. This differs from how most of the houses present their fragrances.
Creed's copy is a little goofy but it's better than I expected and could be so much worse. Nez a Nez sets the gold standard for bad copy and sounds like someone describing a mescaline trip or if you contacted William Burroughs via Ouija board to write a perfume ad and then put the results in a blender. It's badness is so genuine and exquisite that it becomes enjoyable, like B horror movies or early rap. Easily my favorite.
"The humility becomes a Minotaur on the wall. Armenia in accordion is consumed. The smoke embraces the incense to crawl along the stone and saltpeter. Shyness unites with the Minotaur."
Last edited by Zizanioides; 6th August 2010 at 01:47 AM.
"...her fragrance all in my keeping; softly she comes in the night." Lyrics, Gordon Lightfoot, "Softly."
.."Creating a 100% natural CREED perfume is preferable, of course. But a natural composition would not survive the months-long journey that begins with hand bottling at the CREED workshop in France, sea shipping to the United States" etc.
So I take it we are to assume that from ..ahem..1781 to the introduction of synthetics no Creed stood up to a long trip from the site of manufacture to wherever? Or were temperatures during transportation so much better back then..
Things are things because of Mind--Zen Buddhist saying
For the record, I own and love Jasmine Impératrice Eugénie. I have gone through a bottle of Vanisia and plan on replacing it this fall. I've also owned Tabaróme Millésime, Acier Aluminium, Silver Mountain Water, Fleurs de Bulgarie (as per ZZtop's recommendation), Green Irish Tweed, Vintage Tabaróme, Erolfa Shower Gel - the best outdoor showering experience of my life. Royal Scottish Lavender is one of my favorite lavender fragrances and I plan to buy a bottle. I stop by the Creed Boutique in Paris twice a year and I was actually poking around the NYC Creed boutique on Tuesday night.
I'm just one of those who find their claims to be so over the top that they become self-parodies. No harm in voicing one's views, is there?
Except in the case of celebrity feminines, where they assume the audience is mostly drag strip princesses.
OMG - I almost sprung a leak reading that!
Yes, but such a lovable sociopath! Tell us more! MORE!
In all fairness, I think Creed is doing a nice job on that blog of what the industry as a whole is doing - coming clean on synthetics. The fact that, not only are synthetics olfactorally necessary and desirable, but that they do double-duty as preservatives. The fact that they're letting it out slowly in managed sound-bytes instead of a full confession - I'm OK with that, actually.
Too many consumers want to hear those sweet lies about "all naturals", but they also want scents that frankly depend on synthetics. I think Creed is actually stepping up here.
As for the Mysore, they are probably doing it by some horrible government-dependent process that costs ten times as much as before and brings home oil from deadwood and minuscule cuttings. Nobody is going to blog about illegal Mysore and expect it not to raise a stink (no pun intended).
The issue with searches and results on the Creed site is likely not due to them wanting a focus on certain phrasing and not on others, it's likely that not all items have been properly tagged with all the relevant search terms. It's just a case of sloppy site maintenance, and nothing more sinister.
Rare, vintage, and niche off-site sales.
Big list of niche splits.
For me a work of fiction exists only insofar as it affords me what I shall bluntly call aesthetic bliss, that is a sense of being somehow, somewhere, connected with other states of being where art (curiosity, tenderness, kindness, ecstasy) is the norm. - Vladimir Nabokov
A point of clarification: if one was not familiar with the layout of the Creed websites prior to their current incarnation, my original post might not be sufficiently clear. Basically, when one selected fragrances for men or women, the next choice was either (a) eau de toilette, (b) millesime or (c) special collection. My point being that in the current design those destinctions are no longer emphasized. I think it is deliberate, but certainly not sinister.