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    Thumbs up DIY Suppliers List ------Editing in progress 12/2013

    Suppliers of Perfumery Raw Materials (updated January 27, 2012):

    Provisional update starting 29 November, 2013.
    lpp

    If looking for a specific ingredient not stocked by these sources, a Google search may be helpful if members here are unable to suggest any.

    Aftelier Perfumes - Variable selection of perfumery materials. U.S.A.

    Aqua Oleum - U.K. supplier of Essential oils

    Camden Grey Supplier of essential oils and other natural materials, fragrance oils, soapmaking supplies and such. They're on the East Coast, so I've never ordered from them, and therefore can't speak to the quality of their products. Nearly all of their products have a big disclaimer saying they can't ship by "air or ocean", so I assume that means no international shipping.

    De Heskerij - Holland - Supplier of perfumery raw materials.
    Dutch main
    page
    English main page

    Eden Botanicals
    Supplier of essential oils, absolutes, resins, CO2 extracts, etc. in small or large sizes. Good selection, good quality, easy ordering system, no minimum order. Ship internationally.

    Essential Oil University Supplier of essential oils, including a few items that are difficult to find elsewhere, but have changed their name to "The Perfumery" and now sell only to registered businesses, with a large yearly minimum purchase. The quality of their products is good, shipping costs are very reasonable, and some of their prices are competitive, but they are no longer accessible to the hobby perfume maker. However, if you previously had an account with them when they were EOU, you can still log in using that account info and will be grandfathered in at a lower yearly minimum purchase (still high for people who do not buy in bulk).

    Hermitage Oils U.K. Supplier of Absolute Oils, Essential Oils, CO2 Extracts, Artisan Perfumery Materials. Overseas shipping.



    Name - Hermitage Oils Australia
    Website - http://hermitageoilsaustralia.com
    Suppliers for Australia and New Zealand


    Liberty Natural Supplier of essential oils, absolutes, resins, CO2 extracts, etc. in small or large amounts. They have an excellent selection and their products seem to be of uniformly good to high quality. Their ordering system used to be cumbersome, but has recently been greatly improved. Minimum order is $50 in US, $100 internationally.

    Mountain Rose Herbs Organic essential oils, bulk herbs, tea, spices, cosmetic ingredients. As far as I can see there is no minimum order. I have not ordered from them, so cannot vouch for them one way or the other. Ship internationally.

    New Directions Aromatics Serves both USA and Canada. Supplier of essential oils, a few of which are hard to find elsewhere, fragrance oils, cosmetic-making supplies, a limited selection of aroma chemicals, packaging supplies, etc. Their ordering system is easy to use. No minimum order as far as I know. Feedback on this company is mixed at best, so extreme caution is advised. They are also located in the UK and Australia

    Omikron.de Supplier of A.C.'s, naturals & equipment.

    Oshadi U.S.A. Supplier of various oils,

    Oshadi U.K. Supplier of various oils.


    Perfumer’s Apprentice Supplier of aroma chemicals and perfume bases as well as a few essential oils and other natural materials. Also carries a few basic supplies. This is an excellent place to obtain a wide variety of aroma chemicals in small amounts. Easy ordering system with no minimum order. Ship internationally. Outstanding customer service.
    Also supplies products from John Steele (Lifetree Aromatix).

    Perfumer Supply House U.S.A. - see
    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/379...se-is-now-live

    Proxisante - Supplier of oils, absolutes & other perfumery ingredients. (France).

    Scents of Earth Incense-making supplies including a good selection of solid resins, woods, seeds, etc. to use in making tinctures. Easy checkout, no minimum order. Ship internationally.

    Save On Scents Supplier of perfumer's alcohol in small amounts and bulk, fragrance oils, soap-, candle-, and cosmetic-making supplies, packaging materials, etc. They appear to ship internationally, but warn that it may be expensive. I find their strategy of charging extra if you're not a "member" annoying. To become a member you have to order $60 worth of their fragrance oils, which I do not want to do. Their checkout is a little cumbersome, but not too bad once you get used to it.

    The Good Scents Company Supplier of aroma chemicals and a few naturals, in small or large amounts. This is a good source, but the ordering system on their website is arcane and difficult to use. TGSC also has extensive information on aroma chemicals. Minimum order is $50. The website does not state whether they ship internationally.

    White Lotus Aromatics E.O's, Absolutes, CO2 extracts, attars, ruhs, essences.
    U.S. only.
    Minimum order $100.

    www.wildcrops.com Distiller - direct sales of EO's & hydrosols.

    Bottles and vials:

    Accessories for Fragrance Perfume bottles and vials. To me the prices seem high, but there is no minimum order. (NB: I have not ordered from them)

    Best Bottles (aka Nemat) Perfume bottles and vials, singly or in larger quantities. They have a good selection of bottles and vials and excellent service, but I have had problems with their bulb atomizers. Check-out is easy, and prices are reasonable, but there is a minimum order of $50.

    Pilotvials Perfume bottles and vials: Perfume bottles and vials, in small quantities. No minimum order as far as I know. (NB: I have not ordered from them)

    Specialty Bottle: A good variety of Boston round and other types of storage bottles, sample vials, jars, candle jars, tins, aluminum bottles, etc. Their prices and shipping are reasonable, and their prices on bulk sample vials are the best I've found. They have no minimum order, and ship internationally. Good customer service.
    Last edited by lpp; 7th May 2014 at 08:52 AM.
    Blog: www.perfumenw.blogspot.com
    Website: Olympic Orchids Artisan Perfumes http://orchidscents.com.

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    oliverandco
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    nice work !

    thanks so much for sharing your knowledges :-)

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    oliverandco
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    itīs a pity, most of them doesnīt ship to Spain :-(((

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Elly View Post
    Here's a list that I hope can be posted as a sticky:

    Suppliers of Perfumery Raw Materials:

    This is an alphabetical list of some of the companies from which I have bought perfumery materials. My experience with all of the companies on this list has been uniformly positive. These are all companies that sell to individuals who are not buying by the kg. If you are looking for a specific ingredient that none of these sources carry, I suggest that you do a Google search for it: ...
    Last edited by socalwoman; 2nd September 2010 at 03:11 PM. Reason: dynamic list

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    Oliverandco, I'm hoping that someone in Europe will put together a sticky for that part of the world.
    Blog: www.perfumenw.blogspot.com
    Website: Olympic Orchids Artisan Perfumes http://orchidscents.com.

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    oliverandco
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    yes, finally i saw that university eo's ship to Spain. but shipping cost is 150$!!
    may i can look for pepple to make an order together :-)))

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    oliverandco
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    yes, finally i saw that university eo's ship to Spain. but shipping cost is 150$!!
    may i can look for pepple to make an order together :-)))

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    Thumbs up Excellent supplier

    I did not see this supplier on the list, and I want to share with you.
    http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/
    I have ended up buying almost all my supplies from them.
    They stock almost every essential plant based oil, resins and base oils.
    Their beeswax is the best I've come across, and their dragons blood resin is excellent, pure, and the cheapest on the internet. (That's how I first found them)
    Everything is certified organic.

    I have brought from them since several years, I found the quality always good and a pleasant company to order from. They also send stuff to Europe, which is naturally a bit expensive but I consider it worthwhile.

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    Yes, this one should go on the list, so maybe it can be added to the sticky. I seem to recall that their shipping is fairly expensive even in the US, but shipping internationally is a plus.
    Blog: www.perfumenw.blogspot.com
    Website: Olympic Orchids Artisan Perfumes http://orchidscents.com.

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    Yes, when I am in America I have some stuff send up, and it is expensive too. But their products are mostly very reasonable in price, and they are very reliable. I do trust them not to send me junk essential oils, and that is something worthwhile.
    Sometimes they are out of a certain product as well.
    But they do have stuff which is difficult to get.

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    I wanted to mention that New Directions also has locations in Australia and the UK.

    http://www.newdirections.com.au/

    http://www.newdirectionsuk.com/
    "Love is when a girl puts on perfume and a boy puts on shaving cologne and they go out and smell each other."
    -Karl, age 5

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    oliverandco
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    They are good !

    a little bit expensive but they have a lot of stuff!


    Thanks


    Quote Originally Posted by bonni View Post
    I wanted to mention that New Directions also has locations in Australia and the UK.

    http://www.newdirections.com.au/

    http://www.newdirectionsuk.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonni View Post
    I wanted to mention that New Directions also has locations in Australia and the UK.

    http://www.newdirections.com.au/

    http://www.newdirectionsuk.com/
    Thank you! I've added this info to the sticky.
    Blog: www.perfumenw.blogspot.com
    Website: Olympic Orchids Artisan Perfumes http://orchidscents.com.

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    Great initiative, DocElly!!!

    Here is my input, especially for Europeans:

    http://www.hekserij.nl/en/main.htm

    They are in Netherlands, Jan (the owner) is very knowledgeable, very good prices, they ship internationally and there is no minimum order.

    http://www.reincke-fichtner.de/

    They have a lot of aromachemicals that are not easy to find. You need to call them though and I'm not sure if they ship internationally, they do ship within EU.

    http://www.omikron-online.de/

    Nice supplier for aromachemicals and also other DIY cosmetics supplies. I'm not sure if they ship internationally, they do ship within EU.

    http://www.aqua-oleum.co.uk/

    Very high quality essential oils, very hard to find absolutes and other botanical extracts. I'm not sure if they ship internationally, they do ship within EU.

    http://www.kobashi.co.uk

    Great quality essential oils, a huge organic range and beautiful floral waters. Also some great supplies for DIY cosmetics. They ship internationally.

    http://www.luminescents.co.uk/

    Wonderful botanical range, with very hard to find absolutes (honeysuckle and hyacinth!) and tinctures, great for natural perfumers. Also some great supplies for DIY cosmetics. They ship internationally.
    Customized consultancy on perfume formulation, safety, training and marketing & olfactory research
    I also offer individual online personalised advice on perfume making to anyone eager to learn how to smell and design like a pro
    www.irinatudor.nl

    Social platform & research network on all things smelly, daily smelly science twitter feed @SomethingSmelly
    www.somethingsmelly.com


    The facts on IFRA restrictions & EU regulations

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    I've been looking at that website lately. It's good to read the recs here. I must check out the sticky now. I almost never visit this board, but I want to make some herbal Christmas gifts and need a reputable supplier. Glad I came by!

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    Hello

    Someone has kindly mentioned Aqua Oleum, our sister company, www.aqua-oleum.co.uk

    I hope you don't mind me putting up a link to Essentially Me. Founded by my business partner, perfumer Alec Lawless, we're currently running a competition with Basenotes, but we also sell perfumery equipment and supplies here: www.essentially-me.co.uk

    Many thanks!
    Sian

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    is there any sites in the uk for perfume bottles other than vintage ones with squeexy atomisers?
    am looking for cheap, nice bottles

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    Here are my reccomended uk suppliers
    http://www.aromantic.co.uk/buy-natur...ntrates-uk.htm
    the magnnolia and the olive are lovely
    http://www.makeyourowncosmetics.co.uk/ ( online perfume course for £100) pippettes, bottles etc
    http://www.amphora-aromatics.com/ (they do a trade account and the oils are very cheap.)
    http://www.essentially-me.co.uk/ (excellent sister co of aqua oleum stocking really goood abs timctures and perfume making suplies and good perfumers alcohol(2 types)
    http://www.hermitageoils.com/ ( great oils and lots of new ones suitible for perfumery coming out soon)

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    Hi Folks
    I usually buy from perfumers apprentice & perfumers world for small quantities of aromchems but haven't found anyone in UK yet. Have considered setting something up myself but not sure what the uk demand would be like & if it would be worth it.
    For bottles and vials http://www.frenchflint.com is good but you have to buy a tray I think.

    I have been looking for small chunky bottles with ground glass stoppers but no luck so far, does anyone know where I can get something similar to the aftelier ones: http://www.aftelier.com/1-4-oz.-perfumes/ or chunky square ones along same lines?

    Thanks
    Karen

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    http://www.enfleurage.com/products.html hasn't been mentioned. not cheap, but they deal in quality stuff, they have some great and special things, and an impeccable reputation. the service is nice, too.

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    Hi! I noticed that a few of my favorite bottle & container suppliers haven't been mentioned, so I thought I'd add:

    Specialty Bottle -- sells vials, boston rounds, euro-dropper bottles, and jars in glass and PET plastic, as well as a selection of aluminum tins and some miscellany like lip gloss tubes and suchnot. I've been really happy with them. No minimums, good prices even on small quantities, reasonable shipping costs, friendly customer service, fast order processing. They're located in the Pacific Northwest, so a good place for West Coast USians to get containers.

    Sunburst Bottle Company -- Similar stock and pricing to Specialty Bottle, with a wider selection of goods. No minimums. I've only ordered from them once, but they seemed great. I had no problems with my order, and I seem to remember that it arrived quickly. They're also on the US west coast, in Sacramento, California.

    Taj Perfumes -- limited but carefully-considered selection, more oriented to perfumery than the other two I've mentioned. They have some sample vials, roll-ons and atomizers, as well as the usual dropper top boston rounds, vials, etc. Fantastic prices, especially on quantity, and they do a nice job of stuffing your order into the smaller US postal service boxes to save you money on shipping. They're in Baltimore, MD, so a good choice for East Coasters.

    I'm afraid I've never noticed which of these suppliers, if any, ship internationally, but I'd recommend any of them for folks in the US.

    ETA: For the person who was looking for bottles with ground glass stoppers, Mountain Home Biological at www.pelletlab.com sells the reagent bottles with the ground glass stoppers, but they're quite expensive. I'd try looking around at other lab supply places to see if anyone has them cheaper.
    Last edited by afartherroom; 23rd April 2011 at 08:48 AM.

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    Does anyone have favorite suppliers of fragrance oils in the U.S.? I am looking for suppliers that have true-to-scent fragrances oils that keep their scent and don't have "after smells." I love perfumener's apprentice, but they don't sell in large quantities.

    Thanks!
    Jeanette

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    I'm not sure what you mean by "true to scent". Are you looking for fragrance oils that smell like what they're supposed to (e.g., "rose" FO that actually smells like rose)? Hardly any of them do, no matter where you get them. Are you looking for fragrance oils that are the same from one batch to another? Good luck with that, too, although the chances are better. When you say "keep their scent", do you mean withstand the soapmaking process? Most FOs are designed to be used in soap, so you'll probably have reasonably good luck with that if you get the highest concentration available.

    You might try Wellington, if you haven't already. I think they sell in bulk.
    Blog: www.perfumenw.blogspot.com
    Website: Olympic Orchids Artisan Perfumes http://orchidscents.com.

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    To bad there's no way to order from the HK site lol, I actually saw things that I've been looking for XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Elly View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean by "true to scent". Are you looking for fragrance oils that smell like what they're supposed to (e.g., "rose" FO that actually smells like rose)? Hardly any of them do, no matter where you get them. Are you looking for fragrance oils that are the same from one batch to another? Good luck with that, too, although the chances are better. When you say "keep their scent", do you mean withstand the soapmaking process? Most FOs are designed to be used in soap, so you'll probably have reasonably good luck with that if you get the highest concentration available.

    You might try Wellington, if you haven't already. I think they sell in bulk.
    I'm extremely new to DIY perfumery so my opinion is not backed by experience, but I've purchased Wellington fragrance oils and find them acceptable for a novice. I chose to order fragrance oils as an introduction to perfumery to avoid spending large sums of money on a new hobby. Most of the fragrances I've received have been pleasant and fairly representative of what I think they should smell like. I haven't noticed any odd or synthetic "off-notes".

    That said, I'm sure they are not as rich or accurate as real essential oils or custom blended aromachemical accords, but they are sufficient for my novice purposes. And they are pretty cheap

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    I would advise caution against New Direction.
    A link to a relevant thread:
    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/287...g-Frankincense

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    How is Wellington's Neroli so cheap? It's only $14.65 an ounce and everywhere else it's over $100 an ounce, including Liberty Naturals. Both places seem to have good reviews here...
    Last edited by Bruce_Lee; 4th December 2011 at 01:34 PM.

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    Probably because it's synthetic or cut with something else. If you investigate, it may be something like 10% neroli in jojoba oil, which won't work for perfume making. I think Wellington is OK if you want to buy fragrance oils for soap or body care products, but I don't think they're the best source for natural materials.
    Blog: www.perfumenw.blogspot.com
    Website: Olympic Orchids Artisan Perfumes http://orchidscents.com.

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    It's in the essential oils section, which I'm assuming is supposed to be pure. They have another cheaper one in the fragrance oils section which is the one that's cut with jojoba.

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    Frou Frou
    Mountain Rose is a company I like to. I have many on my main laptop, but I only use my I4s on the road. Here is one more though. I will try and add more Sunday.
    http://www.anandaapothecary.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Elly View Post
    I think Wellington is OK if you want to buy fragrance oils for soap or body care products, but I don't think they're the best source for natural materials.
    Which source would be the best if you want to make a prefessional quality perfume? I want to make something similar to Imperial with my own twist to it, and of course not have it cost as much.

    On the Neroli, the only real difference is that Wellington's is imported from India, and everywhere else that's expensive is imported from a country in Africa(Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, etc.). I'm guessing the rebellions/riots in the African countries is more than likely the reason for the cost; not so much the quality.

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    Here's a source Bruce that though not cheep is reasonable.
    http://www.anandaapothecary.com/arom...ntial-oil.html
    I looked at another source and it was off the chain expensive!!!
    Last edited by Boom Boom; 10th December 2011 at 01:08 PM.

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    Yes I investagated one oil and it contained only 5 % Neroli.

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    Expensive oils are expensive for a reason. It is impossible to produce them cheaply. So if you can get them very cheaply there's something wrong, either they are artificial, or they are heavily diluted.
    ''Do unto others 20% better than you'd expect them to do unto you to correct for subjective error.''
    (Linus Pauling)

    www.aafke-art.com

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    Real neroli is obtained from orange blossoms. It takes about 1000 kg of flowers to yield 1 kg of absolute. It's not like orange peel oil, where it only takes about 50 kg and is a by-product of the orange juice industry, or cedar, where it takes less than 25 kg of wood chips, that are by-products of the lumber industry. It takes about the same volume of flowers to make an absolute whether it comes from North Africa, India, or elsewhere. A lot of trees have to be dedicated to producing flowers, and a lot of flowers have to be picked and processed. You'll find that all flower absolutes are relatively expensive. If they're an order of magnitude cheaper from one source than others, you should be suspicious.

    If you want to make a cheaper version of a commercial perfume, why not use a synthetic neroli?
    Blog: www.perfumenw.blogspot.com
    Website: Olympic Orchids Artisan Perfumes http://orchidscents.com.

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    Do synthetics sustain as well as natural oils? I want something that will last 24+h on a shirt or jacket, like Imperial does.

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    Ok, I promised to add some of my sources once I got off the road. Had a very trying but successful weekend. We lost a very good friend in a tragic accident. The concert for Helping Hands children’s charities benefit we played for was a success though.
    Ok here is my growing suppliers list. If I have questions about one I will not add it.
    Essential Oils.
    http://www.healwithoil.com/Myrrh-Essential-Oil.html
    Above ~~ This company has every essential oil used or mentioned in The Bible as well as neat stories about each.

    http://www.anandaapothecary.com/essential-oils.html
    Above~~ This is one of my favorite companies so far. They cheerfully will answer your questions when you call them and will give great advice. They also offer wholesale.

    http://www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com...Essential+Oils
    Above ~~ Here is another great source. Most of my supplier sell wholesale and this company certifies their essential oils as pure unless otherwise noted.

    http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/
    Here is Mountain Rose Herbs again. I re-added it since they are a favorite.

    http://www.sunrosearomatics.com/cata...exd.asp?id=778
    Here’s one company that looks promising though I have not used them yet. I have used their information on each oil in my studies because the medical and descriptions seem accurate though they state not FDA certified. It states on their web sight that they use100% pure unadulterated essential oils. They look promising.

    http://www.silkyscents.com/essential_oils#Top
    Above~~ Here’s another great company with a lot of muscle. The reason I say that is their essential oil is backed by GS (Gas Chromatography) lab test and strict ISO. (international Standards Organization) regulations to insure the highest quality oils. That is the type company I like doing business with.

    Distilling
    http://www.walnutcreekmetamora.com/Stills.htm
    Above: Here is a company that makes distillers and steals! I recommend the copper instead of steel! You can distill your on oils or make your own alcohol several gallons at a time.. It will last a lifetime. It is legal in Texas with the proper license. Most states are.

    Lab supplies
    Below~~ Here’s a great source for equipment to set up a lab. Great prices too.
    volumetric flask are less expensive on one sight where as the Erlenmeyer flasks
    are less expansive on the other. Personally like CoCo Chanel I prefer the volumetric flask
    http://www.novatech-usa.com/Products...enmeyer-Flasks
    http://www.hometrainingtools.com/sea...umetric+flasks
    Hope this helps someone like kantofox who are looking for hard to find things.
    Most of these ship world wide I think.

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    Mistral, the UK’s principle supplier of Perfumer’s Alcohol to the amateur trade, now also stock Formulator’s Alcohol

    (and sadly, no they don’t pay me any commission!)
    Chris Bartlett
    Perfumes from the edge . . .

    www.perfumedesigner.co.uk
    Twitter: @PellWallPerfume

    If you are looking for a perfumery consultation Iím happy to quote: if you want free advice, thatís what these forums are for
    You can also join my blog if you wish to ask questions of me.

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    mm, this formulators alcohol contains isopropyl alcohol. i don't know why, but this stuff has a pretty strong acetone like odor.

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    Yes it does, and as I noted in the other sticky thread, you can indeed smell it in this alcohol blend. It isn’t very strong (I guess there isn’t much IPA in the blend) and it does burn off very quickly. Even so for many purposes other alcohol options will be preferable. The main advantage of this one (compared to PA) is it contains no IPM, for those worried about that, and it’s a little bit cheaper.
    Chris Bartlett
    Perfumes from the edge . . .

    www.perfumedesigner.co.uk
    Twitter: @PellWallPerfume

    If you are looking for a perfumery consultation Iím happy to quote: if you want free advice, thatís what these forums are for
    You can also join my blog if you wish to ask questions of me.

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    Has anyone ever used white lighting in their blends. If I can't get ethanol readily then this is the same thing for experimenting
    And is readily available around here. Or so I hear!!

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    this is just in hopes of getting more info, but, does any one have a source for Vanuatu sandal wood EO ? I normally get it from Eden Botanical, but I've noticed that a lot of the Eo's they carry are marked up at least 20% higher than most other retailers. Any leads would be appreciated.

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    For those who may not know Vanuatu is a small country in the South Pacific, recognised by the UN as an independent nation in 1980 when the joint administration of Britain and France came to an end. Among a few other major commercial interests they have a government controlled Sandalwood industry based on sustainable farming practices, mainly growing (and at the moment only producing) oil from Santalum austrocaledonicum. It’s good stuff and for those who worry about these things free from the moral difficulty of using a product derived from an endangered species and produced in unsustainable ways.

    I buy my Vanuatu Sandalwood from a couple of sources, one of which sells retail - Hermitage Oils. As it happens they have an online sale running at the moment, which means if you want a small amount it’s a good time and place to buy.
    Chris Bartlett
    Perfumes from the edge . . .

    www.perfumedesigner.co.uk
    Twitter: @PellWallPerfume

    If you are looking for a perfumery consultation Iím happy to quote: if you want free advice, thatís what these forums are for
    You can also join my blog if you wish to ask questions of me.

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    Thanks For the lead Chris.

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    I've been investigating suppliers and stumbled across a site called Floracopeia - has anyone had experience with them?
    Thanks!

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    Well I have never shopped with them and I may be a miserable old cynic, but I have to say I’m always a little suspicious when I take a look at the home page of a company I’ve never previously heard of and see first a great big banner ad saying
    ‘how to make a love potion’
    and secondly
    Floracopeia is the world's leader in high quality, pure essential oils and aroma-therapy products.
    Really? The world’s leader? By what measure and according to whose judgment?

    Then I checked a few essential oil prices and saw they were seriously over-priced, at which point I moved on!
    Chris Bartlett
    Perfumes from the edge . . .

    www.perfumedesigner.co.uk
    Twitter: @PellWallPerfume

    If you are looking for a perfumery consultation Iím happy to quote: if you want free advice, thatís what these forums are for
    You can also join my blog if you wish to ask questions of me.

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    I looked at the website too, and not only are the essential oils overpriced (as is usually the case with businesses of this type), the prices make no sense. 15 ml of Bergamot EO double the price of 15 ml of African Bluegrass EO? Something's wrong.
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    Perfect. Thanks guys. It's a site that I stumbled across, which is well polished so to speak with good marketing and packaging but all that doesn't matter when the most important thing is the quality and cost of what's inside those nicely labeled bottles.

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    Does anyone know a supplier for regular, garden variety mint EO (as opposed to spearmint/spicata, peppermint/piperita, wintergreen)? I've checked Liberty, New Directions, Eden Botanicals to no avail. I even found a few companies carrying chocolate mint, but no regular old mint. If not, does anyone know a supplier with a spearmint EO that smells like the actual leaves? The one I have really smells more like toothpaste. Thanks!

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    I’m not sure what you mean by ‘regular mint’: there are quite a lot of species of the genus Mentha but relatively few of them are made into essential oils - in most cases just Mentha piperita and Mentha spicata. However I do find that the mint absolute smells more like garden mint (Mentha sachalinensis) despite being made from peppermint, than any of the essential oils I’ve encountered so you might try that.
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    Thanks, Chris. It looks like Hermitage Oils has the absolute -- I think you've mentioned them in other threads. I hadn't been to their site before, but they look wonderful. I think I'm about to go down the rabbit hole and lose a few hours looking at all their products...

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    Easily done! One of the things I like about that site is all the detailed descriptions and statistics. Enjoy!
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    I'd like to add a bottle supplier to the list for people in the UK. They supply worldwide, but the UK permission to deal with small orders.
    Amazingly, a division of Pochet - the people who make bottles for Chanel. Dior, Givenchy... pretty much everyone - have bought a bottle printing company in Ealing, walking distance from my house! What are the odds?
    Their manufacturing plant is in France, and they take on orders like 2 million bottles for Justin Beiber, but if you're serious about manufacturing scent and need bottles in the 100s and 1000s, they're happy to talk to people like us. They keep a range of bottle that are permanently in stock, and not make to special order. The most expensive part is the lids. They are self-crimping, which means you get a nice professional look, and don't have to invest in a crimping machine.
    (Turns out that I've bought the same ones as Roja Dove; I hope he's not offended. He bought "off the shelf ones too".)
    You want to talk to Mark Loveday and go here for details (scroll the mouse over UK):
    http://www.verreries-pochet.fr/en/menu.php?id=6#
    There are contacts for the rest of the world too, but the UK is interested in finding and developing relationships with indie perfumers who look like they've got a promising future.
    And tell Mark I sent you. He's a nice man.

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    Hello, I bought some essential oils from edensgarden.com, the scents are great, but oils are way way too liquidy (all notes, all kinds of EOs). Does anyone know if edensgarden quality on oils? They do advertise it as uncut, unadulterated and pure etc. etc.
    I have also purchased Natures Alchemy (most of those had a tint of glycerin....

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    Has anyone here tried http://www.whitelotusaromatics.com? I'm unsure if it ships internationally, and it has a minimum purchase requirement of $100 so only for the serious buyers, but I recently purchased some essentials and C02's from them and they're all quite beautiful. Each bottle is labeled with the distillation date, which I appreciate; the pages contain plenty of information on the source of the oil as far as plant part, country of origin, etc., and prices are reasonable despite the min. purchase requirement. I couldn't find any MSDS's readily available, but I did a search and it sounds like you can request them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by expressivelytess View Post
    Has anyone here tried http://www.whitelotusaromatics.com? I'm unsure if it ships internationally, and it has a minimum purchase requirement of $100 so only for the serious buyers, but I recently purchased some essentials and C02's from them and they're all quite beautiful. Each bottle is labeled with the distillation date, which I appreciate; the pages contain plenty of information on the source of the oil as far as plant part, country of origin, etc., and prices are reasonable despite the min. purchase requirement. I couldn't find any MSDS's readily available, but I did a search and it sounds like you can request them.
    White Lotus do indeed ship internationally and they have some wonderful things plus they are knowledgeable people too. They don’t normally supply MSDS data however.
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    Anyone have any feedback on http://www.creatingperfume.com/ ?

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    Yes, I have used them several times and they have been top notch. Relyable and friendly. They have some interesting and rare stuff (e.g. Blue lotus). Also, their co2 ambrette seed is really something special IMO.

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    Oops in my above I am referring to white lotus, NOT creating perfume.com

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    For those in Europe, and more particularly in France, I found an interesting supplier I don't think has been mentioned before (in my desperate search for an ethanol supplier in France). Www.proxisante.com

    They have ethyl alcohol 96 and perfumers alcohol, both extremely hard to get in France unless you have a company and a license, and they also have some interesting things, notably castoruem absolute and africa stone absolute. I just recieved my castoreum abs, something I had never had before, and I am absolutely enamored.

    They shipped quickly and everything was in order.

    Website only in French, but school French should do, or a google tranlstation should make it fairly easy for those non-francophones.

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    I'm a n00b here. I've been voraciously reading as many threads as I can to become as knowledgable as I can on the subject of natural perfumes.
    I'm getting ready to "open the lab" and try my hand at formulating... to that end I have researched suppliers, and the scent notes that I believe will be a fit for these experiments and they are enroute to me as I type, a number of them are among the priciest of EO's and C02's out there so I want to be sure I handle them correctly to avoid any costly mistakes... I will gladly "waste" in experimenting, but would hate to have waste due to a handling error. Most of my EO and CO2 will are coming from Eden's Botanical and a few from Liberty Natural
    One question lingers and I can't seem to find answered anywhere in the forums - once I have these oils. Do I need to dilute them in a carrier oil (jojoba or f. coconut) before I begin formulating. I noticed that Eden's a number of their products with a !05 carrier - I opted to purchase in their purest form.

    Then... once they are diluted what math do I use to reach the standard perfume requirements? Surely if I use 20% pure EO or C02's the fragrance will be far too strong.
    "For an Eau de toilette, you would use about 10% oils or slightly less.
    For Eau de parfum it would be closer to 20% - 80% alcohol"

    Thank you - in advance for any expert input! I've been finding this forum BEYOND helpful.

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    Hi PureNaturalDiva,
    I'm in the same position as you are, waiting for a shipment from Liberty Natural...2 days and no reply back yet.
    Anyways, as a less-than-beginner, this is obviously not advice from any expert, but the regulars have two ways of diluting the essential oils for mixing a fragrance:

    1. Dilute essential/absolute oils to 10% in ethanol before mixing (this is the preferred method because it leads to less waste)

    2. Use pure oil, measured out in drops, and then add ethanol to dilute it to 10%. (This can work, apparently, but is unfavorable)

    You can read posts about this from the experts mostly on the Primer 1.0 thread, that's where I have found the most information.
    As for the jojoba or coconut oil, that is unnecessary for making the fragrance. It might actually get in the way of the EO and AO dissolving in the ethanol.

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