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    Default How to distinguish a bottle of 'vinatge' Paco Rabanne

    Hello everyone,

    Years ago, along with the purchase of a bottle of Insense, I received a mini splash bottle of paco rabanne for men. I gave it to my father and adored the scent. I understand that the fragrance has been reformulated.

    Usually, I can stomach a reformulation as the new Obsession for Men and Fahrenheit are still passable, but I am really upset that when I received a recent 30 ml bottle of Paco, that it smelled dreadful in comparison. I am aware that noses change over time, but the Rabanne I remembered was lush and rounded. The new one I sampled was sharp and headache inducing. Is it possible that it was an after-shave I was sampling? Does anyone else notice 'that' drastic change in this classic.

    Anyway, all this to say that I would 'love' to land a bottle of the vintage juice, but I am wondering how I could distinguish it from the new one. Are there any different box markings, fonts, bottle specs?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am craving this comfort scent!

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    Default Re: How to distinguish a bottle of 'vinatge' Paco Rabanne

    In all sincerity, I would love to know the answer as well. I have a miniature of vintage Paco Rabanne, but that won't last forever. I am think of getting a bottle of Great Jones as it smell identical.

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    Thanks for the response Neal. Surely in the infinate wisdom of scent Guru's on this site there must be one shard of advice regarding this question???

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    Quote Originally Posted by noggs View Post
    Looks disgusting. Probably is spoiled and rancid. I'll stick with a fresh bottle of Bond. No. 9 Great Jones.
    Last edited by neal; 17th September 2010 at 06:21 PM.

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    Hi there!
    I too am a vintage Paco Junkie. There's no comparison between the original formulation and the current. The current after shave is a little closer to the original and sometimes serves as an acceptable back up. You just have to keep putting it on.
    Once you start seeking out bottles of vintage formulation you start to recognize the differences in the packaging. They are subtle. But one surefire way to be sure is to look for the PR logo to be a silver metallic sticker. It's literally stuck to the bottle. The rest of the typeface is white and the glass is smoky green or sometimes clear. The example above is what I'm talking about. The box will be a sage green with black typeface. The logo was redesigned in the mid 80's and went to black and was then raised from the glass and painted onto the bottle. These bottles have all black typeface and the sage green box. These are good bets too. Usually if you find something in the sage green box it's a pretty good bet it's the original formulation.
    I think the change came in the early 90's (the reformulation). The printing on the bottles was now white and the boxes went to a dark metallic green. Avoid these and anything after. You can often find vintage bottles on Ebay. And the great thing is that PRPH never seems to "go off". I've got some really old bottles and they still smell great. Keep 'em in the fridge. Good luck!
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    That's what the above bottle on eBay appears to be but the juice looks like swamp water unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colormechris View Post
    ...There's no comparison between the original formulation and the current.

    ...to be sure is to look for the PR logo to be a silver metallic sticker. It's literally stuck to the bottle. The rest of the typeface is white and the glass is smoky green or sometimes clear.

    You can often find vintage bottles on Ebay. And the great thing is that PRPH never seems to "go off". I've got some really old bottles and they still smell great.
    What colormechris said! Good speed!
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    Thanks a lot for your help, guys!

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    The first version (splash)



    Bottle on the left was the first spray version. bottle on right,m the first of the new versions (note black typeface instead of silver/white)



    Newest version.

    Like colormechris said, the easiest signifier is the typeface.
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    Another great second choice if you can't find original Paco is Worth Pour Homme (haute concentree). It's very similar...quite close...but different. Kind of a first cousin. It has the same velvety, soothing effect as Paco. It's also relatively inexpensive.

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    Default Re: How to distinguish a bottle of 'vinatge' Paco Rabanne

    Quote Originally Posted by perfaddict View Post
    ....

    Bottle on the left was the first spray version. bottle on right,m the first of the new versions (note black typeface instead of silver/white)...
    Quote Originally Posted by StewartGallacher View Post
    It is a mini of the first edition of the reformulated version: The bottle on the right of the picture on top.

    Again, the typeface is black on glass - signifying new versions.
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    Thanks!

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    Some of the evolution of Paco Rabanne Pour Homme can be found on this blog from The Scented Salamander. Certainly not exhaustive, but informative nonetheless.

    http://www.mimifroufrou.com/scenteds...me_by_pac.html

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    See, now I would've guessed that the example above would be from the last version of the original formulation based on all the signifiers. Circa the late 80's. But apparently it's the first of the new formulation in what amounts to old packaging. Yes? This example is truly in a gray area, and would have to be sniffed IMO. A wolf in sheeps clothing. Or in this case, a sheep in wolf's clothing!

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    Default Re: How to distinguish a bottle of 'vinatge' Paco Rabanne

    Quote Originally Posted by colormechris View Post
    See, now I would've guessed that the example above would be from the last version of the original formulation based on all the signifiers. Circa the late 80's. But apparently it's the first of the new formulation in what amounts to old packaging. Yes? This example is truly in a gray area, and would have to be sniffed IMO. A wolf in sheeps clothing. Or in this case, a sheep in wolf's clothing!
    You are right, its the first version of the new formulation. I actually owned a bottle of the one in the picture (30mls). To be honest, i did not notice any difference then. Just doused it on, as usual, and was good to go.
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    Here is a bottle I bought back in the eighties, which is a mixture of black and white lettering, and has the raised area under the "r".



    I am guessing, but I think the very early bottles had the bottom line of text including the size and alcoholic volume in a much bigger font. The bottles I see from early eighties onwards have this lettering much smaller. There does seem to have been a huge amount of repackaging and rebranding over the years. Whether this also meant reformulation could really only be discerned by testing the bottle. The only definite thing is that the product in its present guise is significantly diminshed in comparison to previous re-issues. I may try and look back at some of the old advertising campaigns and see which bottles appear at given times.
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    That one just above is another curve ball! This seems like the logo and typeface should all be black. But the large information line at the bottom was from earlier incarnations. I would gamble that this contains original formulation, due to the raised from the glass logo.
    Can you imagine archaeologists, thousands of years in the future, trying to figure all this out?

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    Here is a pretty solid example of a mid 80's original formula bottle, that would've come in the sage green box.
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    That is pretty much how I picture an old bottle of Paco. It just looks tidier than the others. There are clearly more variations of the packaging than we can imagine. I am guessing that most of the contents of the bottles were as good as the original. I don't remember any great change in quality at that time. It is easy to note the changes later on, especially this latest version. The moss in the original is absolutely wonderful, so rich and green. I really had forgotten how outstanding it was. Thankfully, there is sill so much old stuff out there. Thanks to threads like this, I have a clearer idea of what to look for.

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    Default Re: How to distinguish a bottle of 'vinatge' Paco Rabanne

    Wow!!! Now it gets complicated, because i remember the bottle posted by Orbis Tertius. If i remember properly, some of those came in a set with the aftershave as well. Looks like a "transition" edition, with a bit of the (then) old and the (then) new. this thread has inspired me to try and acquire all the versions. A difficult task in this online-transaction-unfriendly part of the world, but a worthy personal quest ;o)
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    Well, the 60ml size would fit in with your theory about it having part of set. The transition edition theory would also explain the hybrid style bottle and typeface.

    It would certainly be an interesting exercise to create a timeline of repackaging and reformulation. A rather large task by the look of it!

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    I was looking on Ebay and saw a lot of bottles of PRPH for sale. Apparently the bottle has been revamped again; now with the "PR" logo taking up the entire bottle face. It's really sharp and handsome looking. I don't mind them changing the bottle every now and then, but screwing with the frag was the big sin. If they'd just go and "unvamp" the juice I think we'd all be happier!

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    Oh, one more thing...does the "PR" logo remind anyone else of the Rankin-Bass logo? You may recall they produced a lot of those Christmas specials from back in the day, like "Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer". Okay, I'll stop obsessing over this now.

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    Any thoughts on this bottle:
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    @stewart gallacher:

    Based on the font on the bottle "paco rabanne pour homme", you can see that the letters are more rounded than angular. They did this in the early 90's. Also, the white "pr" logo laying flat on the glass points to a late model bottle of juice. I would say this bottle contains the "reformulated" current version.

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    Thanks!

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    I know this thread is old, but it helped me to try and find a vintage bottle of paco rabbane. My dad has a vintage 8oz bottle that he bought in the 80s and I think i found a vintage 16oz bottle. The 2 bottles smell pretty similar and it doesnt seem like paco changes much over the years as long as its stored properly. Let me know what you guys think and I can take more pics if anyone wants to know anything about these bottles.

    I noticed a couple differences i noticed between these bottles. The raised r on the bottle is more rounded on the 8oz and flater on the 16oz. The r on the 8oz box is inset but its not on the 16oz. The 16oz has the small sticker on it (in the third pic) but the 8oz doesnt. Everything else is either very similar or identical.



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