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  1. #1
    oliverandco
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    Default natural and synthetic materials restrictions : what does mean?

    Recommendation for methyl anthranilate fragrance usage levels up to :

    10.0000 % in the fragrance concentrate.

    The same synthetic ingredient is list for flavor as

    2200.0000% in the flavor concentrate


    what does mean? particullary for fragrance usage levels.

    i also found that Oakmoss it has a restriction of 0.1%

    i am little bit lose with these terms

  2. #2

    Default Re: natural and synthetic materials restrictions : what does mean?

    I presume it means that it musn't be over 10% in total because they must have run tests for skin sensitivities over that saturation. The same for the Oakmoss at 0.1% maximum.

    It is just straightforward measurements really.
    100mls of liquid = no more than 10mls of methyl anthranilate fragrance
    100mls of liquid = no more than 0.1ml of Oakmoss

    Is that right?

  3. #3
    oliverandco
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    Default Re: natural and synthetic materials restrictions : what does mean?

    i think 10.0000% means that maximum allowed for 1000g or 1000 formula is 10g or 10ml
    Due to the industries use 1.000 ml or g metric system for formulations





    Quote Originally Posted by mumsy View Post
    I presume it means that it musn't be over 10% in total because they must have run tests for skin sensitivities over that saturation. The same for the Oakmoss at 0.1% maximum.

    It is just straightforward measurements really.
    100mls of liquid = no more than 10mls of methyl anthranilate fragrance
    100mls of liquid = no more than 0.1ml of Oakmoss

    Is that right?

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    Default Re: natural and synthetic materials restrictions : what does mean?

    I think you may be looking at two different things. There are IFRA restrictions, and there are suggestions for use. When there are restrictions, you will see these as absolute levels, not as a percent of the concentrate. When expressed as a percent of concentrate, that is guidance as to how best to use the ingredient. You will notice for instance that for weak scents such as hedione, the recommended percent of concentrate is high. For a strong component like ambrox, the highest recommended percent of concentrate is much lower. For safety-based restrictions it will say something like "not more than 0.1%". At least this is how it was explained to me in a thread on this forum a couple of years ago.

  5. #5
    oliverandco
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    Default Re: natural and synthetic materials restrictions : what does mean?

    Thanks JonB

    still i am looking for the real percents i can use in my formulas. i donīt know yet any complete list for that.
    do you know any guide of all the materials and restrictions?


    Quote Originally Posted by JonB View Post
    I think you may be looking at two different things. There are IFRA restrictions, and there are suggestions for use. When there are restrictions, you will see these as absolute levels, not as a percent of the concentrate. When expressed as a percent of concentrate, that is guidance as to how best to use the ingredient. You will notice for instance that for weak scents such as hedione, the recommended percent of concentrate is high. For a strong component like ambrox, the highest recommended percent of concentrate is much lower. For safety-based restrictions it will say something like "not more than 0.1%". At least this is how it was explained to me in a thread on this forum a couple of years ago.

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    Default Re: natural and synthetic materials restrictions : what does mean?

    I always use this gem of a site, there you can find VERY elaborate descriptions of a huge range of aromatic materials:

    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/

    hth
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    The facts on IFRA restrictions & EU regulations

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    Default Re: natural and synthetic materials restrictions : what does mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Irina View Post
    I always use this gem of a site, there you can find VERY elaborate descriptions of a huge range of aromatic materials:

    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/



    hth
    I use this same website.

  8. #8
    oliverandco
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    Default Re: natural and synthetic materials restrictions : what does mean?

    i also use everytime, but i donīt know exactly what does mean 10.0000% in the fragrance concentrate

  9. #9

    Default Re: natural and synthetic materials restrictions : what does mean?

    10% of the whole perfume aspects of the blend before the dilution of alcohol to the strength necessary to make perfume, Eau de Parfum, Eau de Toilette or Cologne....

    That is my understanding of it.

  10. #10
    oliverandco
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    Default Re: natural and synthetic materials restrictions : what does mean?

    10% ?

    i am very confusing. the terms refering to 1000 units, the standard use weight for parfums.
    10.0000 % ( there are four zeros)

  11. #11
    oliverandco
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    Default Re: natural and synthetic materials restrictions : what does mean?

    i have take a look to ISO E SUPER, which is restrictions in almost 2%.
    i donīt understand nothing.

    Molecule 01 perfume is made only from alcohol and ISO E SUPER, and for sure is not 2%.

    WHY?

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    Default Re: natural and synthetic materials restrictions : what does mean?

    Well it's always highly possible that I'm totally wrong and I'm making the matter worse. I've found a few things that may help.

    http://www.fpinva.org/text/1a5d908-125.html

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    oliverandco
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    Default Re: natural and synthetic materials restrictions : what does mean?

    very helpful Mumsy ! i will take a loook

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