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    Default Re: Fragrance Research - What do you want most?

    Give John Varvatos some steroids and itd be perfect...

    I have not been able to find many gourmands like A*Men. There really are not many gourmands out there, and especially ones that are PURE gourmand. So many have unnecessary florals or other various notes. I want a pure gourmand. Also there are no bizzare gourmands!

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    I'm sort of surprised by the mention of gourmands by more than one person. Not sure why. Just am.

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    A fragrance like a vintage tabarome, peppery, tobacco dominant, woodsy masculine scent. I have bdp and I love it but I want something with some more tobacco , strong , ruthless and masculine. Bdp is ruthless but more in a classy way, vintage tab is just ruthless without any care in the world if it is classy or not. I want something like that. I have or either have targeted virtually everything I want but THAT is what I would love to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarıpatates View Post
    a reasonably priced perfume house that concentrates on simple and clever combinations.
    many less used ingredients.
    lots of edc.

    walnut green. mastic rose. tar and fruits. eau de tarragon. et cetera.
    Your description reminds me of Jo Malone. I wish they had more masculine-leaning scents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugandaraja View Post
    Inventive florals: either fragrances exploring traditional floral notes in a novel way, or realistically depicting out-of-the-mainstream flowers. If you're going to do a rose, don't just do a nice rose, show me you can do something that makes your rose unique. And don't stop there - why not try making high-quality soliflores based around broom, karo karounde, boronia, or any other flower where all the materials are there?

    That's what I'd personally like most to see, but it generally I find myself eager to explore any and all unusual notes and accords rather than same-old same-old. This especially goes for niche perfumery, where I want a fragrance to give me something no other fragrance before it has given me. It's a lot to ask, but given than perfumers have and continue to deliver it now and then, I know it's possible!
    I figured you'd ask for more amp'ed up florals, Sug! Ditto; wife and I visited Marie Selby Bot. Gardens this week and smelled some amazing orchids, and with each whiff I thought "Damn, this would make a fantastic perfume note!" One smelled EXACTLY like freshly laundered linen. So, I guess my wish would be for the fragrance industry to go on a new botanical molecule search and find some new stuff to put in the toolbox. Sustainably, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBond007 View Post
    A fragrance like a vintage tabarome, peppery, tobacco dominant, woodsy masculine scent. I have bdp and I love it but I want something with some more tobacco , strong , ruthless and masculine. Bdp is ruthless but more in a classy way, vintage tab is just ruthless without any care in the world if it is classy or not. I want something like that. I have or either have targeted virtually everything I want but THAT is what I would love to see.
    I agree. More tobacco. I don't think it's used enough in fragrances today. I do see a slight uptick in trend, though. Maybe soon we'll be begging for less tobacco.

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    Hoping to offer 3ml spray bottles with fragrances we're currently blending and get some feedback from people. Perhaps, depending on interest, 1st come 1st serve or a raffle of sorts. Free samples, of course. Wear for a week or so and tell us what you think, what you'd change, don't like, etc...

    2 current test frags are a deep Fougere blend (oakmoss, lavender, tobacco, orange, etc...) and a thick Floral (Rose, Geranium, Benzoin, Myrhh, etc...)

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    Sounds very interesting - tobacco-y fougere and a thick floral...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken_Russell View Post
    I would love a more "barbershop-like", a more soapy version of a male or unisex frag
    Maybe something like: mint and bergamot with middles that blend a light floral and vanilla and base notes of tobacco and ylang. Something like vetiver or tobacco to sort of 'thicken' things up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snafoo View Post
    I figured you'd ask for more amp'ed up florals, Sug! Ditto; wife and I visited Marie Selby Bot. Gardens this week and smelled some amazing orchids, and with each whiff I thought "Damn, this would make a fantastic perfume note!" One smelled EXACTLY like freshly laundered linen. So, I guess my wish would be for the fragrance industry to go on a new botanical molecule search and find some new stuff to put in the toolbox. Sustainably, of course.
    I grow orchids commercially and have been making perfumes based on orchid fragrances. You are right - orchid fragrances are absolutely amazing, and the amount of diversity is mind-boggling. The orchids that I focus on are the ones that have unique fragraqnces, not those that smell exactly like something else (e.g., freshly laundered linen, chocolate, clover, dead meat, cedar wood, Chanel Egoiste, etc.). Not to toot my own horn, but since you mentioned orchids, check out my website.
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    Okay - a specific request. Frederic Malle mentioned he was developing something with Carlos Benaim - I would like to see the Saint de Saint idea they put together for the candle (drawn from the headspace technology of some Indian temples) into an interesting incense / oriental . . . shouldn't be too much of a stretch?

    Failing that, maybe the Santal Cardomon one might be worth a look . . . I'm thinking something along the lines of Santal Noble meets Clive Christian X for Man could be an interesting direction to explore in the right hands.

    And if anyone else out there has time on their hands I think the accord in the Cire Turdon 'Nazareth' candle is also worth taking into a wearable liquid
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    I dont want anything new. I just want more Chanel and YSL.

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    if there was one thing i wish perfumes would have more these days is the real, rich, boozy vanilla that you get from vanilla extract and not from vanillin. I love it so much that i almost applied vanilla essence once! sweet, decadent and complex without being too incredibly sweet. MMMM!

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    Ditto on the Vanilla.

    I've acquired some great Vanilla Absolute. It has a comforting warm scent that's almost nutty.

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    I would like a really good dark dramatic carnation scent and a ' proper ' chypre with lots of dampness, depth and moss . They should be wearable by both sexes . And......interesting evolution of the fragrance plus decent tenacity. Not nuclear , not fleeting - just decent.
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    Do you think you or other people would rather purchase samples in 3ml or 5ml sprayers or receive free or very inexpensive tiny vials? Let's say for the sake of this discussion that the 3 or 5ml atomizers cost about $10 and a vial would be about $4.

    I never seem to have good experiences with the tiny sample vials. They just don't have enough in them.

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    Vincent, first of all, $4 for a sample vial is not "free or very inexpensive". $10 for 3-5 ml is actually a cheaper price per ml, so a much better deal if you plan to use it all. If the "tiny sample vials" actually were free (that means no cost!), or very inexpensive (say $1.00/vial), I would definitely prefer them for anything that I wanted to sample for the first time. For things that I know I like, I might lay out $10 for a 3-5 ml decant, whether it was in a sprayer or splash vial, but I would want to sample it first.

    Actually, the 1 ml sample vials have plenty in them if you don't overdose. A typical application would be about 0.1 ml, so you should be able to get at least 10 trials out of a vial. I usually get more than that.
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    I'm not going to name notes, fragrance families, etc.

    I just want scents that are created with passion and a touch of perfectionism. Scents where the creator has the budget to transform their dreams into reality, and the time to do so. It seems that the few scents I've read where they've been worked on for a year or longer are some of the finest (Prada Amber PH, Bond's Harrods Oud, the older Amouage, many vintage scents, etc).
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    I'm not into the aldehydes. They leave me cold, with a headache! I love natural scents that work on emotions and that's why I'm oud obsessed. I smelled it in incense form when I 1rst went to London. The Montale's are ok, but I want more easily accessible options. Although, it's nice that somethings remain precious and difficult to obtain.

    Jar's Diamond Waters has a not too sweet carnation. I love Poivre! Is it my imagination, but 20 years ago, was it so expensive? I remember it being in at least 2 dept stores in San Francisco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Elly View Post
    I grow orchids commercially and have been making perfumes based on orchid fragrances. You are right - orchid fragrances are absolutely amazing, and the amount of diversity is mind-boggling. The orchids that I focus on are the ones that have unique fragraqnces, not those that smell exactly like something else (e.g., freshly laundered linen, chocolate, clover, dead meat, cedar wood, Chanel Egoiste, etc.). Not to toot my own horn, but since you mentioned orchids, check out my website.
    I agree and would add that lots of other flowers could provide inspiration. I have a mum with a great floral-herbal smell. The flowers of irises smell great and are very different from the root-derived orris note.

    I also really like the smell of tomato leaves in early summer and think it could mix with many other notes.

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    You're right, $4 per vial is not inexpensive.
    How about something like $5 for a pack of 4 samples?
    I had an idea also for enthusiastic customers to get a chance at winning a free 10ml atomizer of their favorite scent from the sample pack. I'm not sure how one might enter, though. Wouldn't want to give free stuff away to someone who didn't want one.

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    Several times now I've spent $20 for a pack of 6-8 samples from a niche perfumer. It was money well spent. Kitty & I found what we liked and what we didn't. And comparing/contrasting within a set is fun.

    I think each sample was only 1.5 or 2 ml. It's enough to test on paper, on Kitty's skin, on my skin, and even on one friend's skin. And we still have some of each left for future reconsiderations.

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    I want a scent which is versatile, original and made of high-quality ingredients. A scent which does not emphasize the top-notes (which are so volatile), but which has a wonderfully constructed dry-down consisting of oakmoss, cedarwood and leather. Nothing sweet, no fashionable gourmand-scent, but something which could be considered timeless - and unisex.
    I'd want this scent to be available in perfume strength and would want it to last for 12 hs on my skin.

    (Should YOU know any such perfume, don't hesitate to tell me!!! I'm still searching for the HOLY GRAIL in perfumes...alas. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulSC View Post
    A sustainable source of Mysore sandalwood, and inventive new scents that incorporate it.
    +1 to PaulSC
    also, smaller bottles with smaller prices. Don't you think some of the bottle sizes are getting absurd ?

    Prices that are more reasonable. For instance, I love FM Vetiver Extr. but the price is all hype.

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    Maybe I missed it, but I find it interesting no one mentioned musk

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